Part 1 ---- updating squeeze to wheezy

2014-09-27 Thread John Lindsay
I am going to post this in several messages to keep things relatively concise. Here is my sources.list. Top 16 lines were generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ I left the first 3 as a basic sources.list. The next 13 were also generated by the above but I marked them as ignore. The last 16

Part 2 - updating squeeze to wheezy

2014-09-27 Thread John Lindsay
The following is what I get when I type "apt-get update" and obviously it failed to update. My original sources.list (see part 1 - updating squeeze to wheezy) (bottom 16 lines) had squeeze and I was getting similar results. Later today I am going to try and shorten sources list and simplify i

Re: PuTTY tips for Debian users

2014-09-27 Thread Martin Read
On 27/09/14 02:48, Stephen Powell wrote: I'm not sure that the Debian wiki is the right place for this information. Although there is a Linux port of PuTTY, 99% of PuTTY users are Windows users, including me. Although it may be used to login remotely to a Debian system, PuTTY itself is Windows s

Re: how to force chronyd to be online after booting

2014-09-27 Thread lee
Philippe Clérié writes: >> On 09/26/2014 06:31 PM, lee wrote: >> >> So is there some simple way to just force chronyd to remain online? I >> think when there isn't an option for this, I'll just replace it with >> ntpd ... >> >> > > I'd like to second that question. > > I've used chronyd for a wh

Re: sigabrt chrome

2014-09-27 Thread Ludovico Van
anyone? > hi all > sorry for the little ot, being chrome not open source > on a debian stable, after some upgrades (unfortunately cannot track which one, since i don't own that machine), google chrome stopped working. > When starting from the cli i only get a "Aborted" and then terminates. > T

Re: Part 2 - updating squeeze to wheezy

2014-09-27 Thread Clive Standbridge
> The following is what I get when I type "apt-get update" and obviously > it failed to update. My original sources.list (see part 1 - updating > squeeze to wheezy) (bottom 16 lines) had squeeze and I was getting > similar results. > > Later today I am going to try and shorten sources list and sim

Re: how to force chronyd to be online after booting

2014-09-27 Thread Philippe Clérié
On 09/27/2014 07:17 AM, lee wrote: Hm, you don't use UPSs? :-) It's a long story. I'll make it short: I'm in Haiti. Grid power is an iffy proposition. :-) So we have to have heavy backups. That means generators and large inverters. There is always a slight delay when switching to batterie

gpg errors NO_PUBKEY after aptitude update

2014-09-27 Thread Valery Mamonov
Hi! I'm experiencing some troubles with updating my debian machine. After aptitude update i'm having multiple errors like these: W: GPG error: http://deb.ianod.es unstable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 498F1DF0598C5C38

Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-27 Thread lee
>> Steve Litt writes: >> >> Because you use fvwm on a regular basis, you should write some >> documentation on it. Please check out [1] --- let me know if it works for you and how you like it. [1]: https://github.com/lee-/fvwm -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. -- To

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
John Hasler wrote: Miles Fidelman writes: Again, in the real world of operations - not all code is installed from packages. There's an awful lot of ./configure; ./make install That has nothing to do with Debian. How can your difficulties installing some tarball be construed as Debian imposing

Re: Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

2014-09-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joel Rees wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Ron Leach wrote: List, good afternoon, What package would list members suggest for a small webserver that would enable co-workers to upload files to us? Oh. Well, look at webdav. This is something regularly done with webdav. But I really th

Re: PuTTY tips for Debian users

2014-09-27 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 03:34:58 -0400 (EDT), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On 27 Sep 2014, at 02:48, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> PuTTY currently does not support 256-color mode. See >> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/wishlist/256-colours.html > > That page indicates that putty had s

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread John Hasler
Miles Fidelman writes: > We have things like the LSB precisely to provide a standard platform. And Debian has an LSB package. Install it and your LSB-compliant software will run (assuming dependencies are satisfied: those are your problem if you are not using the packaging system). If you know o

Re: Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

2014-09-27 Thread Ron Leach
On 27/09/2014 15:35, Miles Fidelman wrote: Joel Rees wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Ron Leach wrote: List, good afternoon, What package would list members suggest for a small webserver that would enable co-workers to upload files to us? Oh. Well, look at webdav. This is something

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

2014-09-27 Thread Philippe Clérié
Thanks for the tips. Bug filed as #763072. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense it that it is so uncommon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debia

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread Erwan David
Le 27/09/2014 01:08, Ric Moore a écrit : > On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote: >> Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500: >>> Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and >>> hide his >>> doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to >>> harden >>> up

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

2014-09-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 27 September 2014 17:57:06 Philippe Clérié wrote: > Thanks for the tips. > > Bug filed as #763072. > > -- > Philippe > > -- > The trouble with common sense it that it is so uncommon. > I have looked at the bug report, and I would suggest that it may be misphrased. Keyboard selec

Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-09-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
Recently, my Debian stable system started to refuse my password when I want to unlock my screen. Most users on the system use Gnome 3 and their lock screen works OK (thank god), but I use XFCE and xscreensaver and this one has recently decided that it can't accept any passwords any more. I tried

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-27 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson writes: > On 26/09/14 07:34, lee wrote: >> Darac Marjal writes: >> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 03:04:24PM +0200, lee wrote: > Systemd can handle the boot process from head to toe, without needing > to use any of the existing shell scripts. That's how syste

Re: Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

2014-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
2014/09/28 0:06 "Ron Leach" : > > On 27/09/2014 15:35, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> >> Joel Rees wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Ron Leach wrote: List, good afternoon, What package would list members suggest for a small webserver that would enable co-work

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-09-27 Thread softwatt
I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing ALT+SHIFT (The default language switch) and retrying. You may need to do it multiple times if you have multiple languages. If that is not your issue, I am clueless.

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-27 Thread lee
Linux-Fan writes: > On 09/22/2014 03:23 AM, lee wrote: >> Linux-Fan writes: >>> On 09/21/2014 08:41 PM, lee wrote: Linux-Fan writes: >> On 09/20/2014 04:55 PM, lee wrote: >> >> I've seen the smart info show incredible numbers for the hours and for >> the temperature. Hence I can only

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-09-27 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/27/14, softwatt wrote: > I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in > the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing > ALT+SHIFT (The default language switch) and retrying. You may need to do > it multiple times if you have multiple languages. > > I

Re: Part 2 - updating squeeze to wheezy

2014-09-27 Thread John Lindsay
Thank you Clive for your reply. Here are my settings now after doing the change to my sources.list: uname -a shows: Linux debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 i686 GNU/Linux lsb_release -a shows No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:Debian Description:Debian

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread lee
Martin Steigerwald writes: > Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 10:43:14 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: >> On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: >> > Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers >> > of systemd to fix the issues it brings about. They cannot be unaware of >> > t

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread lee
Martin Steigerwald writes: > Why do I think that you do not want change from the *current* situation? > Cause > what you do, in my oppinion does not facilitate change. I think I see why you think so. What makes you think that anything you or I could do would change anything? -- Knowledge i

Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-27 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:20:27 +0200 lee mentioned this: Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs). > > >> Steve Litt writes: > >> > >> Because you use fvwm on a regular basis, you should write some > >> documentation on it. > > Please check out [1] --- let m

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: >> >> Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers >> of systemd to fix the issues it brings about. They cannot be unaware of >> them, so obviously they don't want to fix them. I've seen for myself >> th

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-27 Thread Linux-Fan
On 09/27/2014 09:52 PM, lee wrote: > Linux-Fan writes: >> On 09/22/2014 03:23 AM, lee wrote: >>> Linux-Fan writes: On 09/21/2014 08:41 PM, lee wrote: > Linux-Fan writes: >>> On 09/20/2014 04:55 PM, lee wrote: >>> >>> I've seen the smart info show incredible numbers for the hours and

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/27/2014 02:49 PM, lee wrote: Just ask yourself: Why would someone choose to download an ISO for Debian? For me, it's the safest way to install/upgrade. I have had too many problems with interrupted live major migration to the next release level via an upgrade, or a live network total i

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-09-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/27/2014 04:41 PM, softwatt wrote: I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing ALT+SHIFT (The default language switch) and retrying. You may need to do it multiple times if you have multiple languages.

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-09-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/27/2014 05:34 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 9/27/14, softwatt wrote: I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing ALT+SHIFT (The default language switch) and retrying. You may need to do it multiple

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/09/14 04:49, lee wrote: > Scott Ferguson writes: > >> On 26/09/14 07:34, lee wrote: >>> Darac Marjal writes: >>> > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 03:04:24PM +0200, lee wrote: > >> Systemd can handle the boot process from head to toe, >> without needing to use any of the existing

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread Martin Read
On 27/09/14 21:04, lee wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=990177 Your complaint about the interface is reasonable. The systemd developers' decision to not change the interface in response to your complaint was also reasonable. (The Fedora users mailing list thread you linked

Re: Part 2 - updating squeeze to wheezy

2014-09-27 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/27/14, Clive Standbridge wrote: >> The following is what I get when I type "apt-get update" and obviously >> it failed to update. My original sources.list (see part 1 - updating >> squeeze to wheezy) (bottom 16 lines) had squeeze and I was getting >> similar results. >> >> Later today I am go

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/09/14 06:13, lee wrote: > Martin Steigerwald writes: > >> Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 10:43:14 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: >>> On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers of systemd to fix the issues it brings abou

Debian policy on alternate init systems

2014-09-27 Thread Marty
The Debian Policy Manual currently supports alternate init systems, and mentions upstart as an example. sysvinit scripts will continue to be required per policy. I got the opposite impression from the TC debate, where part of the justification (IIRC) for systemd was avoiding sysvinit maintenanc

funny text in bash history

2014-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
Booted this morning, started my usual pattern of bringing the appropriate apt-get commands up from history. (I'm lazy, okay?) Had a bunch of unicode proxies and a reference to a backup directory that I haven't accessed in several months in my most recent three lines, then the history that should

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-09-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 06:46:49PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On 09/27/2014 05:34 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > >On 9/27/14, softwatt wrote: > >>I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in > >>the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing > >>ALT+SHIFT (T

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-09-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 06:45:26PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On 09/27/2014 04:41 PM, softwatt wrote: > >I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in > >the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing > >ALT+SHIFT (The default language switch) and retrying. Y

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-09-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:42:33 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Recently, my Debian stable system started to refuse my password when > I want to unlock my screen. > > Most users on the system use Gnome 3 and their lock screen works OK > (thank god), but I use XFCE and xscreensaver and this one has

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:32:38 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > On 09/27/2014 02:49 PM, lee wrote: > > > Just ask yourself: Why would someone choose to download an ISO for > > Debian? > > For me, it's the safest way to install/upgrade. I have had too many > problems with interrupted live major migration

Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-27 Thread lee
Charlie writes: >> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:20:27 +0200 lee mentioned this: >> >> Please check out [1] --- let me know if it works for you and how you >> like it. >> >> >> [1]: https://github.com/lee-/fvwm > >Hello Lee, > > I've just had a cursory read and you have put a lot of effo

Problem loading firmware in Debian Installer

2014-09-27 Thread Rob Werfelmann
Hello, I'm not sure where to submit this bug as I am unsure if this is caused by the installer or the linux kernel. I'm using a daily net install (uses linux-image-3.16.2-amd64) and when I get to "configure the network" part, I get a message that it was unable to find a wireless network. Loo

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread lee
Martin Read writes: > On 27/09/14 21:04, lee wrote: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=990177 > > Your complaint about the interface is reasonable. The systemd > developers' decision to not change the interface in response to your > complaint was also reasonable. I never said it was

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson writes: > On 28/09/14 06:13, lee wrote: >> Martin Steigerwald writes: >> >>> Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 10:43:14 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: > Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers > of systemd

Re: how to force chronyd to be online after booting

2014-09-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Philippe Clérié wrote: On 09/27/2014 07:17 AM, lee wrote: Hm, you don't use UPSs? :-) It's a long story. I'll make it short: I'm in Haiti. Grid power is an iffy proposition. :-) So we have to have heavy backups. That means generators and large inverters. There is always a slight delay wh

Data from a serial port

2014-09-27 Thread Ethan Rosenberg
Dear List - I have an Avery Berkel POS [Point Of Sale] scale which I wish to integrate into a POS system. The output is sent to a RS232 port. I do not know how to extract the data. Here is what I have about the RS232 port: ethan@meow:~$ dmesg | grep tty [0.00] console [tty0] enabled

Data from a serial port

2014-09-27 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
Dear List - I have an Avery Berkel POS [Point Of Sale] scale which I wish to integrate into a POS system. The output is sent to a RS232 port. I do not know how to extract the data. Here is what I have about the RS232 port: ethan@meow:~$ dmesg | grep tty [0.00] console [tty0] enabled

Re: Data from a serial port

2014-09-27 Thread David Christensen
On 09/27/2014 08:26 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: I have an Avery Berkel POS [Point Of Sale] scale which I wish to integrate into a POS system. The output is sent to a RS232 port. I do not know how to extract the data. Here is what I have about the RS232 port: ethan@meow:~$ dmesg | grep tty [

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
2014/09/28 7:33 "Ric Moore" : > > On 09/27/2014 02:49 PM, lee wrote: > >> Darac Marjal writes: >> > >> > It's a personal choice. If you require a crowd of support as moral >> > justification you're doing it wrong. >> Just ask yourself: Why would someone choose to download an ISO for >> Debian? > >

How to make more space available for /

2014-09-27 Thread Rob Hurle
I've had a very large job on the go and have only just now had the chance to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy. I had to do the upgrade from DVDs because I live at the end of a piece of wet string (takes about a day to download one DVD). The upgrade went reasonably well but I did run out of room on

Re: 2 fork or ~2 fork

2014-09-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 27 September 2014 01:50:02 Steve Litt wrote: > And for every one of us that gets silenced, three more pop up. They don't. Except perhaps in oyur dreams. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/26/2014 08:48 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: I'd appreciate an insight into the reductive reasoning you used to arrive at your belief? I was going to reply with links, pictures, and graphs. Then I figured what for? Tell ya what ...this time next year, we'll re-visit this topic and we'll see

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 26 Sep 2014, at 23:22, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Definitely contributing to the noise, as your citation simply points to a > comment by someone, on the debian-devel list. The reference neither: > - points to a general resolution that was mooted, nor, Steve's link was to the start of a s

Re: PuTTY tips for Debian users

2014-09-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 27 Sep 2014, at 02:48, Stephen Powell wrote: > > I'm not sure that the Debian wiki is the right place for this information. > Although there is a Linux port of PuTTY, 99% of PuTTY users are > Windows users, including me. Although it may be used to login remotely > to a Debian system, PuTTY

[ANNOUNCE] Laptop Mode Tools 1.66 Released

2014-09-27 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Hello Folks, I am very pleased to announce Laptop Mode Tools, at version 1.66. This release fixes an important bug in the way Laptop Mode Tools is invoked. Users, now when disable it in the config file, the tool will be disabled. Thanks to *bendlas*@github for narrowing it down. The GUI confi

Re: security camera software/RPi

2014-09-27 Thread ken
On 09/26/2014 04:17 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 26 sep 14, 09:05:32, Paul Lewis wrote: In this case I have a Trendnet IP camera which will write to an NFS share. I was looking for a server device that would be quieter and consume less power than a conventional machine that I might be able t