On 15/09/2014, Chen Wei wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
>> .xsession-errors, which is currently sitting at about 740MB, and has
>> been growing in the last hour.
>>
>> entries from before the current boot session) entries, so as to reduce
>> the file size to co
On Sunday 14 September 2014 19:42:40 Steve Litt wrote:
> Every time you tell one of us to keep silent, three more of us speak
> up. I don't know whether we're a minority, but if you and your cohorts
> keep shushing us, we just might be the majority pretty soon.
I wasn't telling anyone to keep sile
Bartosz Olender writes:
> Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding
> that "GNU is *Not* Unix"
May I recall that most of the systemd-haters knows the recursive
expansion of GNU?
> and because of that we should have the freedom
> to create better solutions, rather
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:56:35AM -0600, Glenn English wrote:
> What do you server admins use for backup?
Personally (not professionally), I only back up user data, and
use a puppet recipe to configure my servers, so that if I need
to restore them I can do so by running the puppet script on a
pri
On 15.09.2014 09:44, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:56:35AM -0600, Glenn English wrote:
>> What do you server admins use for backup?
I use duply for data backups. Pros:
- push backups via ssh
- encrypted with gpg key1
- signed with gpg key2
- built in file checksumming
my s
Ahoj,
Dňa Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:46:43 +0200 lee napísal:
> Slavko writes:
>
> > BTW, if someone is interested in, while this investigation i
> > generated graphs of dependencies on some systemd packages on my
> > system, they will be accessible for some time here:
> >
> > http://anfo.slavino.sk/
Ahoj,
Dňa Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:46:51 -0300 Andre N Batista
napísal:
> The way I see it, there is a large amount of doubt on who's
> insterested in systemd and there is no doubt that many users are
> being forced into using it and, according to your recent post on the
> subject, those users have c
On 09/15/2014 03:27 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2014 19:42:40 Steve Litt wrote:
Every time you tell one of us to keep silent, three more of us speak
up. I don't know whether we're a minority, but if you and your cohorts
keep shushing us, we just might be the majority pretty soon
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 01:38:53AM -0400, Björn Djisktra wrote:
>Is this gonna work? Please, help.
debian-user is not an arbitrary language parser. Try writing your code
to a file and then applying the compiler/interpreter appropriate to the
language you're writing in to that file. If there ar
Dear Debian folks,
I am running Debian Testing on an AMD64 box.
I was trying to update it with new packages and got dependency problems.
I got as far as choosing this PAM option from a list but could not find the
list at the terminal and eventually had to shutdown and reboot.
When I did this I
Thanks Raffaele,
You are right, once I'm loading manually the snd-usb-audio, all is fine.
So, my work-around right now is running after each restart:
$ sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel snd-usb-audio
I'm very pleased to have back sound at my computer, thanks to this
mailing list!
As for .asound file
On 15/09/14 at 12:43pm, Menashè Eliezer wrote:
> Thanks Raffaele,
> You are right, once I'm loading manually the snd-usb-audio, all is fine.
> So, my work-around right now is running after each restart:
> $ sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel snd-usb-audio
You don't have to do it manually, just add those
Both of them are already in /etc/modules and
/etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf
No effect...
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On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Michael Fothergill
wrote:
> Dear Debian folks,
>
> I am running Debian Testing on an AMD64 box.
>
> I was trying to update it with new packages and got dependency problems.
>
> I got as far as choosing this PAM option from a list but could not find the
> list at th
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 01:38:53AM -0400, Björn Djisktra wrote:
>>Is this gonna work? Please, help.
>
> debian-user is not an arbitrary language parser. Try writing your code
> to a file and then applying the compiler/interpreter appropria
On 15/09/14 01:46, Marty wrote:
(not OP but) I require the exclusion all packages by their dev teams
from my computer. Is that clear enough? Linus doesn't trust them. Why
should I?
Just to be sure you're aware of what you're asking for: that includes
udev, which:
(a) in Debian is a hard depe
On 9/15/2014 3:27 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 14 September 2014 19:42:40 Steve Litt wrote:
>> Every time you tell one of us to keep silent, three more of us speak
>> up. I don't know whether we're a minority, but if you and your cohorts
>> keep shushing us, we just might be the majority prett
2014-09-15 14:15 GMT+02:00 Menashè Eliezer :
> Both of them are already in /etc/modules and /etc/modules-load.d/modules.
> conf
>
> No effect...
well, I am not a kernel doctor but something is clearly wrong with it
On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote:
Bartosz Olender writes:
> Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding
> that "GNU is *Not* Unix"
May I recall that most of the systemd-haters knows the recursive
expansion of GNU?
Most of us are no interested in what S
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400
Doug wrote:
> Most of us are no interested in what Stallman or whoever created back
> in 1995. We don't think of Linux as GNU.
Ahhh, so you are the declared and _democratically elected_ spokesman
of, let's say 80% of the Linux community (shit, I should read mor
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 01:55:01PM +0100, Martin Read wrote:
> On 15/09/14 01:46, Marty wrote:
> >(not OP but) I require the exclusion all packages by their dev teams
> >from my computer. Is that clear enough? Linus doesn't trust them. Why
> >should I?
>
> Just to be sure you're aware of what you'
>
> I got as far as choosing this PAM option from a list but could not find
the
> list at the terminal and eventually had to shutdown and reboot.
Woops.
Many thanks for taking the time to respond to my query on this
> When I did this I got a login prompt that doesn't ask for a password.
In
Booting the DVD, dropping to rescue mode, and mounting the hard disk
would allow you a look at the logs to see what it was trying to do and
how far it got when you couldn't move ahead.
I did look at the logs as you suggested but maybe not all of the ones that
would be helpful here. By the way, the
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400
Doug wrote:
> On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> > Bartosz Olender writes:
> > > Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion
> > > reminding that "GNU is *Not* Unix"
> >
> > May I recall that most of the systemd-haters knows the r
I am very pleased to announce the release of apt-offline, version 1.5.
In version 1.4, the offline bug report functionality had to be dropped.
In version 1.5, it is back again. apt-offline now uses the new Debian
native BTS library. Thanks to its developers, this library is much more
slim and
W dniu 15.09.2014 19:39, Joe pisze:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400
> Doug wrote:
>
>> On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote:
>>> Bartosz Olender writes:
>>> > Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion
>>> > reminding that "GNU is *Not* Unix"
>>>
>>> May I recall
On 13/09/14 22:46, lee wrote:
I'd be happy to see some support. I cannot speak for "the users" or for
"the free software community". You users, and the community members,
whoever they are, need to speak as well.
OK, so I'll "speak as well". :-)
But first of all I'd like to thank you and some
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:45 +0200
Bartosz Olender wrote:
> I am not defending systemd programmers but, could you clarify what do
> you exactly mean by bad programming practices?
Creating weird situations about things that used to work well
for _years_ (eg: the kernel debug switch), then put the
Hi,
I'm trying to install jessie amd64 and with the installer I got two
important issues:
1st: when it asked me about non free drivers, I told him that there were in
an external device (usb), but it never saw after several attemps.
2nd. I need to manually partition my disk as it have another distri
gvfs))
Reply-To: Joel Roth
In-Reply-To: <5416e94a.8070...@attglobal.net>
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 9/15/2014 3:27 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Sunday 14 September 2014 19:42:40 Steve Litt wrote:
> >> Every time you tell one of us to keep silent, three more of us speak
> >> up. I don't know whethe
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:45 +0200
Bartosz Olender wrote:
> W dniu 15.09.2014 19:39, Joe pisze:
> > On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400
> > Doug wrote:
> >
> >> On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> >>> Bartosz Olender writes:
> >>> > Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this d
On 09/15/2014 11:33 AM, B wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400
Doug wrote:
Most of us are no interested in what Stallman or whoever created back
in 1995. We don't think of Linux as GNU.
Ahhh, so you are the declared and _democratically elected_ spokesman
of, let's say 80% of the Lin
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014, Joel Roth wrote:
> I think it should be possible to find or create a forum for those who
> are concerned about this issue. I know that I would subscribe.
Please create one and subscribe. It's trivial to create mailing lists on
lists.alioth.debian.org, or you can use non-Debian
Am Montag, 15. September 2014, 21:55:29 schrieb Joe:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:45 +0200
>
> Bartosz Olender wrote:
> > W dniu 15.09.2014 19:39, Joe pisze:
> > > On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400
> > >
> > > Doug wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> > >>> Ba
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:16:32 -0400
Ric Moore wrote:
> Sorry, I see only that he represented his views, which also happens to
> coincide with my own. Please, if you have to label someone, you've
> lost your argument's points from the get-go. :) Ric
I don't wanna stigmatize anybody; what I'd like
sven> Downgrade to the latest working version.
Luckily, I was able to find a couple of earlier Chrome versions in
/var/cache/apt/archives/ in order to downgrade. What if I'd removed all
the archived 'apt' files to save space? This leads to the following
question ...
Is there a known Google si
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 23:48:02 +0200 Martin Steigerwald sent:
> I have mixed thoughts and feelings about systemd… but on the other
> hand I think discussing this further here… is… a waste of time – as
> it won´t change anything.
I'm uncertain if that's correct. It certainly highlights some features
Charlie writes:
> Though I'm not a programmer and really know very little about Debian
> [as someone once said - the lifetime learning experience] imagine the
> installer could present a choice of systemd or sys** whatever? The
> wiki could point out advantages and disadvantages of both?
That is b
Steve Litt writes:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:54:56 +0200
> lee wrote:
>>
>> Can you have, say, KDE on Gentoo without systemd? "Without systemd"
>> means *all* of systemd, like systemd-login0 etc..
>
> But in answer to your question, my official answer is "I don't know."
> Now I'll give you a gu
Lisi Reisz writes:
> On Saturday 13 September 2014 21:46:31 lee wrote:
>> You users, and the community members,
>> whoever they are, need to speak as well.
>
> Perhaps, just perhaps, many of them don't agree.
Well, I've now seen two people speaking up in response, and 0% of them
spoke in favour
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:24:10 +0200
lee wrote:
> Steve Litt writes:
>
> And who knows what kind of problems you run into when you switch to
> some BSD. Are there NVIDIA drivers for some BSD? Is everything I'm
> using now available for some BSD?
My biggest problem is I can't yet get qemu to r
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:15:59 -0700
Don Armstrong wrote:
> Yes, please. The pro/anti systemd discussion isn't on topic for this
> mailing list.
Precisely. Bugs and user difficulties produced by innumerable
dependencies have nothing to do with Debian-Users, it's merely an
interesting discussion f
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 06:08:49PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Charlie writes:
> > Though I'm not a programmer and really know very little about Debian
> > [as someone once said - the lifetime learning experience] imagine the
> > installer could present a choice of systemd or sys** whatever? The
>
Dear All,
what settings do you use in KVM for Linux guests?
The resolution with VNC / VGA is 1024x768 only. If I choose Spice / QXL
the resolution is better, but colors aren't displayed properly and some
letters are missing!
In the Debian guest I installed the packages xserver-xspice and
spice-c
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:38:18 -1000 Joel Roth sent:
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 06:08:49PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > Charlie writes:
> > > Though I'm not a programmer and really know very little about
> > > Debian [as someone once said - the lifetime learning experience]
> > > imagine the install
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:07:48 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> On 15/09/2014, Chen Wei wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> >> .xsession-errors, which is currently sitting at about 740MB, and
> >> has been growing in the last hour.
> >>
> >> entries from before the cu
I want to get wicd off my system, but am having a problem. All the
installer utilities say that it's not installed, but 'which' and other
things tell a different story:
root@debian:~# which wicd
/usr/sbin/wicd
root@debian:~#
Also, in spite of the installer messages, there are lots of
wicd-related
On 15/09/14 11:37 PM, tom arnall wrote:
I want to get wicd off my system, but am having a problem. All the
installer utilities say that it's not installed, but 'which' and other
things tell a different story:
root@debian:~# which wicd
/usr/sbin/wicd
root@debian:~#
Also, in spite of the installe
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:37:02 -0700
tom arnall wrote:
> How do I get rid of the stuff?
apt-get install wicd
apt-get purge wicd
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On 2014-09-16 02:00 +0200, lee wrote:
> Lisi Reisz writes:
>
>> On Saturday 13 September 2014 21:46:31 lee wrote:
>>> You users, and the community members,
>>> whoever they are, need to speak as well.
>>
>> Perhaps, just perhaps, many of them don't agree.
>
> Well, I've now seen two people speak
Hi.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:41:32AM +0200, Chris wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> what settings do you use in KVM for Linux guests?
>
> The resolution with VNC / VGA is 1024x768 only. If I choose Spice / QXL
> the resolution is better, but colors aren't displayed properly and some
> letters are missing
On 15/09/14 at 02:15pm, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014, Joel Roth wrote:
> > I think it should be possible to find or create a forum for those who
> > are concerned about this issue. I know that I would subscribe.
>
> Please create one and subscribe. It's trivial to create mailing list
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