Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Joel Rees writes: > Programming is a field of mathematics. Mathematically speaking, limiting a > language to a declarative syntax does not mean that the language ceases to > be a language. But it could lose the Turing completeness. -- /\ ___Ubun

Latest Jessie doesn't respond to /etc/default/tmpfs "RAMTMP=yes"

2014-07-23 Thread Rick Thomas
I’m trying to get /tmp on tmpfs, so I put “RAMTMP=yes” in /dev/default/tmpfs . But I don’t get /tmp/mounted on tmpfs. I’ve got plenty of ram and swap: > rbthomas@jessie:~$ cat /proc/meminfo | egrep '^(Mem|Swap)Total:' > MemTotal:1017648 kB > SwapTotal: 2928636 kB Here’s my /etc/d

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-23 Thread Paul Scott
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 02:23:12PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:56:55PM +0200, B wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:19:12 -0700 > > Paul Scott wrote: > > > > > No change. > > > > > > > Also set a DHCP server up (link-local shouldn't be there). > > > > > > I am using

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 23 July 2014 03:55:36 The Wanderer wrote: > Then people promptly started expressing confusion over the whole thing, > and here we are. Curt often loses me. He is well named. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 03:46:56PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > Programming is a field of mathematics. Mathematically speaking, limiting a > language to a declarative syntax does not mean that the language ceases to > be a language. I would argue that programming is linguistics (being a linguist, mys

missing LSB tags and overrides

2014-07-23 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Any suggestions on how to fix this please? insserv: warning: script 'K01kerneld' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'K01apache' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'S15modutils' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'S15libdevmapper1.02'

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Paul Scott a écrit : > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 08:36:04PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >>> >>> route gives me: >>> >>> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse >>> Iface >>> default * 0.0.0.0 U 1002 00 eth0 >> You have a b

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/23/14, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 23 July 2014 03:55:36 The Wanderer wrote: >> Then people promptly started expressing confusion over the whole thing, >> and here we are. > > Curt often loses me. He is well named. ;-) I recommend going back to read that initial reply from "Dr. Jeckyll

How to remove bottom panel in classic mode of gnome 3.12 ?

2014-07-23 Thread lumin
Hi, My system is updated debian jessie. gnome updated to 3.12 today. seems that jessie will land on gnome-3.12. I just want to remove (or hide) the bottom panel in classic mode, to work with a white coloured gnome. Searched with google, many result say that this key combination works: Super + Alt

Re: mutt can't send mail (Interrupted system call)

2014-07-23 Thread Wilko Fokken
Moin mitnanner, moin Anthony. I remember having had similar problems with my mutt/wheezy on my laptop. (My mails are handled by my provider; I use fetchmail to get them.) As Interrupt reactions of your mail system could be due to missing files or directories, I put an excerpt of my own exim4/mu

Re: Latest Jessie doesn't respond to /etc/default/tmpfs "RAMTMP=yes"

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi Rick Am 23.07.2014 um 09:12 schrieb Rick Thomas: > > I’m trying to get /tmp on tmpfs, so I put “RAMTMP=yes” in /dev/default/tmpfs . > > But I don’t get /tmp/mounted on tmpfs. /etc/default/tmpfs is a sysvinit specific config file. If you are running systemd, enabling /tmp on tmpfs is as simpl

Re: Iceape and Debian 7.x

2014-07-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:58:44AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > Is a .deb package of iceape or seamonky, available for Debian 7.x (amd64)? > > I have not been able to find one. > > Thank you in anticipation. > I'm fairly sure the whole package was removed as no longer supported upstre

Re: Latest Jessie doesn't respond to /etc/default/tmpfs "RAMTMP=yes"

2014-07-23 Thread Javier Barroso
Hello, First, Michael thank for your Debian work, On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Hi Rick > > Am 23.07.2014 um 09:12 schrieb Rick Thomas: >> >> I’m trying to get /tmp on tmpfs, so I put “RAMTMP=yes” in /dev/default/tmpfs >> . >> >> But I don’t get /tmp/mounted on tmpfs. >

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Joel Rees
2014/07/23 16:41 "Tony Baldwin" : > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 03:46:56PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > Programming is a field of mathematics. Mathematically speaking, limiting a > > language to a declarative syntax does not mean that the language ceases to > > be a language. > > I would argue that pr

kFreeBSD: can't create swap partition

2014-07-23 Thread berenger . morel
Hello list. I have decided to give a try to the amd64 kFreeBSD port, testing version, hosted by virtualbox on a Debian amd64 testing. I had some warnings that the installer asked me if I wanted to ignore (and that I stupidly forgot to write somewhere, but I'll probably do more than one insta

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Joel Rees writes: > 2014/07/23 16:41 "Tony Baldwin" : > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 03:46:56PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > > Programming is a field of mathematics. Mathematically speaking, limiting > > > a > > > language to a declarative syntax does not mean that the language ceases > >

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/23/14, Joel Rees wrote: > I suppose I'll get complaints about this being off-topic, but perhaps we > can expose a disagreement on terminology without the clutter and heat of > the discussion in which it came up. Not offtopic at all, since some (heated, or protracted) discussions, drag out d

Re: kFreeBSD: can't create swap partition

2014-07-23 Thread berenger . morel
Sorry for the unfinished message, my fingers were not precise enough and/or too fast (tab and then space, instead of a and space... and the message is sent :/) I have decided to give a try to the amd64 kFreeBSD port, testing version, hosted by virtualbox on a Debian amd64 testing. I had some w

Re: kFreeBSD: can't create swap partition

2014-07-23 Thread berenger . morel
Le 23.07.2014 12:49, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Sorry for the unfinished message, my fingers were not precise enough and/or too fast (tab and then space, instead of a and space... and the message is sent :/) I have decided to give a try to the amd64 kFreeBSD port, testing versio

Re: XP style themes for various DE's in Debian repositories?

2014-07-23 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 01:17:13PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > IIRC the IceWM DE/WM had a theme called "BluePlastic" which looked one > heck of a lot like XP. I used IceWM for about 4 years and recommend it > highly, although from what I understand it's not all that well > maintained, and its con

Re: Is "xhost +si:localuser:root" safe?

2014-07-23 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-07-22 23:11:21 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2014, 17:48:24 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > > To be able to save/restore the XKB keymap in a /etc/pm/sleep.d script > > (as a workaround for Debian bug 633849), xkbcomp needs to have access > > to the display. The simples

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Zenaan Harkness writes: > So thank you Joel for spending the time to describe these > concepts as 'pedantically' as you have. Your descriptions > are an excellent grounding for the conversation which is > undoubtedly going to continue :) One question. Can you give me an example of Turing compl

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-07-23 Thread maderios
On 07/21/2014 07:30 AM, Erwan David wrote: systemd-shim is no more an option in testing. the whole systemd with all its bugs (very low shutdown, no suport for policy-rc.d, etc..) is forced to users. It was said that we would have a choice. Were is the choice ? Hi Remember that Debian t

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-07-23 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/23/2014 08:33 AM, maderios wrote: > On 07/21/2014 07:30 AM, Erwan David wrote: > >> systemd-shim is no more an option in testing. the whole systemd >> with all its bugs (very low shutdown, no suport for policy-rc.d, >> etc..) is forced to use

Squeeze Soft Lockup on ESXi 5.1

2014-07-23 Thread Martin Seener
Hi, Every 1 to 2 weeks i have that problem with some virtual machines - everythings runs on squeeze and ESXi 5.1 Hosts (Dell PowerEdge R510 Machines) This happens mostly at about 6:30am. Sadly iam a newbie dechiffre Kernel traces, so i attached todays here. uname -a: Linux workaholic7 2.6.32

Re: missing LSB tags and overrides

2014-07-23 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 09:41:08AM +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Any suggestions on how to fix this please? > > > insserv: warning: script 'K01kerneld' missing LSB tags and overrides > insserv: warning: script 'K01apache' missing LSB tags and overrides > insserv: warning: script 'S15modutils'

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:29 PM, wrote: > Zenaan Harkness writes: > >> So thank you Joel for spending the time to describe these > > concepts as 'pedantically' as you have. Your descriptions > > are an excellent grounding for the conversation which is > > undoubtedly going to continue :) > > O

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:46:56 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > I suppose I'll get complaints about this being off-topic, Yeah you dirty dog :-) > but perhaps > we can expose a disagreement on terminology without the clutter and > heat of the discussion in which it came up. > > Words, when spoken, mea

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:36:24 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > And, conversely, adding identifiers to attempt to cover every > necessary possible configuration is always going to result in a > boatload of arcane terms with arcane semantics. (And you still have > the issue of engineering clairvoyance vers

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Joel Rees writes: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:29 PM, wrote: > > Zenaan Harkness writes: > > > >> So thank you Joel for spending the time to describe these > > > concepts as 'pedantically' as you have. Your descriptions > > > are an excellent grounding for the conversation which is > > >

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Steve Litt writes: > Although I spent 14 years making my living as a software developer, > there are times when I don't want the freedom to do absolutely > anything. This is why I switched away from Perl: I needed some > limitations. Despite limits may be a fun challenge, I prefer to g

Re: Lost high res desktop settings on vbox upgrade to 4.3.14

2014-07-23 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:38:02 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: >Any folks running jessie in a vbox vm... maybe will know what to do >here. > >I upgraded vbox from 4.3.10 to 4.3 14. Now the best screen res I can >get in 1024 x 768. When it was something like 1500 x . Not sure >of exact setting bu

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:35:01 +0200 sa...@eng.it wrote: > Steve Litt writes: > > > Although I spent 14 years making my living as a software developer, > > there are times when I don't want the freedom to do absolutely > > anything. This is why I switched away from Perl: I needed some > > limit

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/24/14, sa...@eng.it wrote: > Joel Rees writes: > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:29 PM, wrote: > > > Zenaan Harkness writes: > > > > > >> So thank you Joel for spending the time to describe these > > > > concepts as 'pedantically' as you have. Your descriptions > > > > are an excellent

Fwd: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Arghh Gmail! Dangit! This one was for the list. cheers zenaan -- Forwarded message -- From: Zenaan Harkness Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 01:03:16 +1000 Subject: Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file To: Steve Litt On 7/24/14, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:46:56 +0900

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread David Guntner
Joel Rees grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > 2014/07/23 16:41 "Tony Baldwin" : >> >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 03:46:56PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >>> Programming is a field of mathematics. Mathematically speaking, limiting a >>> language to a declarative syntax does not mean that the language ceases to

Re: Iceape and Debian 7.x

2014-07-23 Thread Bret Busby
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:58:44AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: Hello. Is a .deb package of iceape or seamonky, available for Debian 7.x (amd64)? I have not been able to find one. Thank you in anticipation. I'm fairly sure the whole package was r

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Steve Litt writes: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:35:01 +0200 > sa...@eng.it wrote: > > > Steve Litt writes: > > > > > Although I spent 14 years making my living as a software developer, > > > there are times when I don't want the freedom to do absolutely > > > anything. This is why I switch

/var partition seems locked or read only

2014-07-23 Thread berenger . morel
Hello. On a distant Debian testing/unstable, it seems that the /var partition can no longer be written: even "# touch /var/test" returns a message saying that there is no space on the drive, which is something that "# df -h" deny: # df -h Sys. de fichiers Taille Utilisé Dispo Uti% Monté sur

Re: Copy machine?

2014-07-23 Thread berenger . morel
Le 21.07.2014 18:58, Chris a écrit : Dear Steve, On 07/18/2014 09:37 PM, Steve Kemp wrote: This is pretty much it. I've migrated from Xen, and KVM, to real physical machines. I'm using VirtualBox. The guest has no special kernel. If you perform the fixups it should work. Off the to

Re: /var partition seems locked or read only

2014-07-23 Thread Hans
Maybe you might want to boot a livefile system (i.e. debian live, or Knoppix). Then you can mount the partition(s) and check configurations and other things. Good luck! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact lis

Re: NetworkManager/OpenConnect broken on jessie?

2014-07-23 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Thursday 17 July 2014 14:55:19 Mike Kupfer wrote: > Any suggestions for what I should do next? I've used openconnect today on sid through network-manager and kde without problem. You may need to update (again) your system. HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: /var partition seems locked or read only

2014-07-23 Thread der.hans
Am 23. Jul, 2014 schwätzte berenger.mo...@neutralite.org so: moin moin, does /proc/mounts show /var/ as still being mounted rw? Do you have large open files that have been removed? The filesystem will show those as free space, but until the proceses holding the files open have been stopped the

Re: missing LSB tags and overrides

2014-07-23 Thread Florent Bories
Hi, http://help.directadmin.com/item.php?id=379 Regards, Florent Le 23 juil. 2014 09:41, "Tony van der Hoff" a écrit : > Any suggestions on how to fix this please? > > > insserv: warning: script 'K01kerneld' missing LSB tags and overrides > insserv: warning: script 'K01apache' missing LSB tags

Re: /var partition seems locked or read only

2014-07-23 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Qua, 23 Jul 2014, berenger.morel wrote: On a distant Debian testing/unstable, it seems that the /var partition can no longer be written: even "# touch /var/test" returns a message saying that there is no space on the drive, which is something that "# df -h" deny: Check df -i also. --

Re: /var partition seems locked or read only

2014-07-23 Thread Vincent Zweije
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 09:59:26AM -0700, der.hans wrote: || Am 23. Jul, 2014 schwätzte berenger.mo...@neutralite.org so: || || moin moin, || || does /proc/mounts show /var/ as still being mounted rw? That would cause EROFS (Read-only file system), not ENOSPC (No space left on device). ||

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-23 Thread Paul Scott
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 09:28:41AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Paul Scott a écrit : > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 08:36:04PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >>> > >>> route gives me: > >>> > >>> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse > >>> Iface > >>> default

Re: missing LSB tags and overrides

2014-07-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Florent Bories wrote: > http://help.directadmin.com/item.php?id=379 No. Don't remove insserv. Unless you want to deliberately wreck your system. Removing insserv is like shooting a person in the head to cure an itch in the foot. The correct answer was already given: purge any left over conf-fil

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-23 Thread Erwan David
Le 22/07/2014 17:56, Erwan David a écrit : > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 05:25:22PM CEST, Don Armstrong said: >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Erwan David wrote: >>> I lokked at it. I do not know how to remove this quiet on command line >>> which seems to have appeared. Did systemd change grub configuration ?

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 08:39:26PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 7/23/14, Joel Rees wrote: > > I suppose I'll get complaints about this being off-topic, but perhaps we > > can expose a disagreement on terminology without the clutter and heat of > > the discussion in which it came up. > > No

Re: missing LSB tags and overrides

2014-07-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 09:41:08AM +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Any suggestions on how to fix this please? > > > insserv: warning: script 'K01kerneld' missing LSB tags and overrides > insserv: warning: script 'K01apache' missing LSB tags and overrides > insserv: warning: script 'S15modutils'

Re: missing LSB tags and overrides

2014-07-23 Thread Florent Bories
Le 23 juil. 2014 19:34, "Sven Hartge" a écrit : > > Florent Bories wrote: > > > http://help.directadmin.com/item.php?id=379 > > No. Don't remove insserv. Unless you want to deliberately wreck your > system. Removing insserv is like shooting a person in the head to cure an > itch in the foot. > >

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 21/07/2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : >> Ahoj, >> >> it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for testing >> users. > > I agree, since testing is not for normal users (well... theoretically > at least), so we could imagine

Re: Iceape and Debian 7.x

2014-07-23 Thread Richard Owlett
Bret Busby wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:58:44AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: Hello. Is a .deb package of iceape or seamonky, available for Debian 7.x (amd64)? I have not been able to find one. Thank you in anticipation. I'm fairly sure the

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:14:13 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 08:39:26PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On 7/23/14, Joel Rees wrote: > > > I suppose I'll get complaints about this being off-topic, but > > > perhaps we can expose a disagreement on terminology without the

Re: Iceape and Debian 7.x

2014-07-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/07/2014, Richard Owlett wrote: > Bret Busby wrote: >> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:58:44AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: Hello. Is a .deb package of iceape or seamonky, available for Debian 7.x (amd64)? I have no

Re: Iceape and Debian 7.x

2014-07-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/07/2014, Richard Owlett wrote: > > CAVEAT LECTOR: I didn't get to learn Latin very well, but that seems like "Let Hannibal beware". :) -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep T

Re: Iceape and Debian 7.x

2014-07-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/07/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 24/07/2014, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> >> CAVEAT LECTOR: > > I didn't get to learn Latin very well, but that seems like "Let > Hannibal beware". > > :) > And thence, I think that I may have worked out what it means. "Tread carefully (watch where you pu

Re: Iceape and Debian 7.x

2014-07-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 02:11:30PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > CAVEAT LECTOR: > I'm a newbie who hasn't yet worried about details of internet > issues. > I do not see me using other than Seamonkey (or 'clone' thereof) > > This morning when I saw your post, I did a preliminary cursory > s

exact name of headers for 3.14-1-486

2014-07-23 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry if my subject sounds a little pompous but I keep hitting this warning when trying to install vbox guest addtitions where is says it cannot find the headers for my running kernel. It's a little exasperating because when I first saw that I installed a bunch of header from a pile of pkgs. una

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-23, Steve Litt wrote: > > Where does one see the list charter? Neither googling > "debian-user"+"mailing list"+charter nore "debian-user"+"mailing > list"+rules nor a search on the debian.org site itself nor just general > searching came up with it within the top 20 results. > I was

Re: Lost high res desktop settings on vbox upgrade to 4.3.14

2014-07-23 Thread Harry Putnam
Andreas Rönnquist writes: >>I upgraded vbox from 4.3.10 to 4.3 14. Now the best screen res I can >>get in 1024 x 768. When it was something like 1500 x . Not sure >>of exact setting but desktop was much larger when I logged in before >>this upgrade. >> > > An ISO with guest additions is l

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 23 July 2014 21:36:23 Curt wrote: > And maybe more somewhere, more rules and regulations we can abuse and > break until we're banned like incurable lepers from the community. Maybe he is thinking of the DFSG? Or the Social Contract? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-re

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Paul Scott a écrit : > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 09:28:41AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> As a workaround until an update fixes the bug, I guess you can manually >> disable the wired ethernet interface in NetworkManager when you don't >> use it. > > Do mean in /etc/network/interfaces? No. I wrot

Re: Lost high res desktop settings on vbox upgrade to 4.3.14

2014-07-23 Thread hdv@gmail
On 2014-07-23 23:04, Harry Putnam wrote: > Andreas Rönnquist writes: > >>> I upgraded vbox from 4.3.10 to 4.3 14. Now the best screen res I can >>> get in 1024 x 768. When it was something like 1500 x . Not sure >>> of exact setting but desktop was much larger when I logged in before >>>

Re: Lost high res desktop settings on vbox upgrade to 4.3.14

2014-07-23 Thread John Bleichert
On 07/23/2014 05:32 PM, hdv@gmail wrote: On 2014-07-23 23:04, Harry Putnam wrote: Andreas Rönnquist writes: I upgraded vbox from 4.3.10 to 4.3 14. Now the best screen res I can get in 1024 x 768. When it was something like 1500 x . Not sure of exact setting but desktop was much larg

Is there a list 'charter' somewhere? (was ... Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file)

2014-07-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 03:47:00PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:14:13 +1200 > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 08:39:26PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > On 7/23/14, Joel Rees wrote: > > > > I suppose I'll get complaints about this being off-topic, bu

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:20:59 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 23 July 2014 21:36:23 Curt wrote: > > And maybe more somewhere, more rules and regulations we can abuse > > and break until we're banned like incurable lepers from the > > community. > > Maybe he is thinking of the DFSG? Or the

Re: /var partition seems locked or read only

2014-07-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Vincent Zweije a écrit : > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 09:59:26AM -0700, der.hans wrote: > >> Do you have large open files that have been removed? The filesystem will >> show those as free space, but until the proceses holding the files open >> have been stopped the disk space has not been freed. du

Re: wireless routing broken after recent sid update

2014-07-23 Thread Paul Scott
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:09:48PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Paul Scott a écrit : > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 09:28:41AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> As a workaround until an update fixes the bug, I guess you can manually > >> disable the wired ethernet interface in NetworkManager when

Re: Is there a list 'charter' somewhere? (was ... Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file)

2014-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:18:00 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 03:47:00PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:14:13 +1200 > > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 08:39:26PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > On 7/23/14, Joel Rees wro

Re: Is there a list 'charter' somewhere? (was ... Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file)

2014-07-23 Thread Miles Fidelman
Chris Bannister wrote: But the debian-user list is for Debian support, and discussing the issues of scripting versus configuration is therefore off-topic, IMHO. Ummm, according to https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ this list is for "Help and discussion among users of Debian." Under that

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 18:20:24 -0400 Steve Litt sent: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:20:59 +0100 > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 23 July 2014 21:36:23 Curt wrote: > > > And maybe more somewhere, more rules and regulations we can abuse > > > and break until we're banned like incurable lepers from

Re: Is there a list 'charter' somewhere? (was ... Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file)

2014-07-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014, Chris Bannister wrote: > Oh. Ok, but I was using the same terms that Henrique de Moraes > Holschuh used when he talked about the debian-testing mailing list and > how people were wondering if that was the list to discuss testing > issues from a user perspective. It's not for u

Re: Iceape and Debian 7.x

2014-07-23 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 iceape browser is available in squeeze-backports, but not in wheezy or jessie. It is however available in sid; so it may in time be moved to jessie. Maybe the sid version may work in jessie now. The squeeze-backports version of squeeze may work in w

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: > On 21/07/2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > wrote: >> >> >> Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : >>> Ahoj, >>> >>> it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for testing >>> users. >> >> I agree, since testing is not for normal users (well... the

Special hotkeys for Openbox and LXDE users

2014-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I made a bunch of hotkeys for Openbox and LXDE (which uses Openbox) to make it easier for this kind of person: * Touch typist who keeps his hands at home position * Keyboard centric where possible * When a mouse is needed, uses a real mouse, not a touchpad - Therefore a lot of the

Re: Iceape and Debian 7.x

2014-07-23 Thread Richard Owlett
Bret Busby wrote: On 24/07/2014, Bret Busby wrote: On 24/07/2014, Richard Owlett wrote: CAVEAT LECTOR: I didn't get to learn Latin very well, but that seems like "Let Hannibal beware". :) And thence, I think that I may have worked out what it means. "Tread carefully (watch where

Re: Special hotkeys for Openbox and LXDE users

2014-07-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/24/14, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I made a bunch of hotkeys for Openbox and LXDE (which uses Openbox) to > make it easier for this kind of person: > > * Touch typist who keeps his hands at home position > * Keyboard centric where possible > * When a mouse is needed, uses a real mouse, no

Re: Lost high res desktop settings on vbox upgrade to 4.3.14

2014-07-23 Thread Harry Putnam
"hdv@gmail" writes: > On 2014-07-23 23:04, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Andreas Rönnquist writes: >> I upgraded vbox from 4.3.10 to 4.3 14. Now the best screen res I can get in 1024 x 768. When it was something like 1500 x . Not sure of exact setting but desktop was much larger

Re: Lost high res desktop settings on vbox upgrade to 4.3.14

2014-07-23 Thread Harry Putnam
John Bleichert writes: > On 07/23/2014 05:32 PM, hdv@gmail wrote: >> On 2014-07-23 23:04, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> Andreas Rönnquist writes: >>> > I upgraded vbox from 4.3.10 to 4.3 14. Now the best screen res I can > get in 1024 x 768. When it was something like 1500 x . Not sure

Re: NetworkManager/OpenConnect broken on jessie?

2014-07-23 Thread Mike Kupfer
Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Thursday 17 July 2014 14:55:19 Mike Kupfer wrote: > > Any suggestions for what I should do next? > > I've used openconnect today on sid through network-manager and kde without > problem. You may need to update (again) your system. Yes, it started working again after

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/07/2014, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 21/07/2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : Ahoj, it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for testing users. >>> >>> I agree

Re: Copy machine?

2014-07-23 Thread Chris
On 07/23/2014 06:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Could it be because of the MAC address? (yeah, probably a stupid idea, > but...) The MAC address changed of course, but I haven't found it anywhere hard-coded. There are some udev-rules on debian, but on ubuntu they were empty. -- C

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: > On 24/07/2014, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 21/07/2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org >>> wrote: Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : > Ahoj, > > it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for tes

Re: Lost high res desktop settings on vbox upgrade to 4.3.14

2014-07-23 Thread Yusaku OGAWA
Harry Putnam wrote: > *** > Warning: unsupported pre-release version of X.Org Server installed. Not > installing the X.Org drivers. > ...done. > *** Hi, Did you upgrade X Ser