Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 03:34:23AM -0600, Kitty Cat wrote: > After all my poking and prodding, I am thinking that maybe it needs a > certain type of USB keyboard in order to have a working keyboard at boot. I > know that some USB devices have to have drivers before the computer knows > what to do

the "ilow" urgency

2014-06-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
I can see a package with the "ilow" urgency: mythes (2:1.2.4-1) unstable; urgency=ilow * New upstream release * use autotools-dev (closes: #727282) -- Rene Engelhard Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:10:40 + which regarded has higher than "high" by apt-listchanges. However it isn't listed in the

Re: overcoming apt's resistance to broken packages

2014-06-28 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/28/2014 05:57 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 04:29:51PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> I agree with Josh Triplett that autodetection looking only for >> 'ati' rather than for the individual modules which 'ati' can >> im

Re: Synaptic messed up

2014-06-28 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 07:57:03PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > On 06/27/2014 03:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >That needs sorting! > > > >I should have asked: What GUI/DE (Graphical User Interface/Desktop > >Environment) are you using? (So I know what editors you are likely to have. > >Yes,

Re: the "ilow" urgency

2014-06-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.06.2014 13:27, schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > I can see a package with the "ilow" urgency: > > mythes (2:1.2.4-1) unstable; urgency=ilow > > * New upstream release > > * use autotools-dev (closes: #727282) > > -- Rene Engelhard Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:10:40 + > > which regarded has hi

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 23:14:26 -0400, slitt wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900 > Joel Rees wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...] > > > Grub is a *boot loader*. > > > > Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more. > > > > > What do you expect it to do?

Virtualized desktop

2014-06-28 Thread Jimmy Thrasibule
Hi, I'm looking to renew my hardware and I'm wondering how Debian can help me to virtualize my desktop environment. My first go was to have 2 Intel NUC and 2 screens, one NUC more stable and one I can play with. I want to use both screens with both computers so this implies to also have two KVMs.

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please don't top post on this list.] On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 01:26:19AM -0600, Kitty Cat wrote: > OK. I managed to get Debian installed. Here is what I did: > > I had previously installed the Debian installer stuff from the DVD into the > Windows bootloader. However, since my keyboard didn't wo

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 20:12:11 -0600 Kitty Cat wrote: > I can't install Debian. The USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows > loads. OK. So do the early stage of the install from Windows. http://people.debian.org/~rmh/goodbye-microsoft/ You might also want to complain to your PC manufacurer.

Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

2014-06-28 Thread slitt
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian > > has a package first, before resorting to CPAN. > > +1 > > > I've destabilized Debian stable with non-Debian softwar

Re: Synaptic messed up

2014-06-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 28 June 2014 00:57:03 Maureen L Thomas wrote: > On 06/27/2014 03:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 26 June 2014 23:55:55 Maureen L Thomas wrote: > >> On 06/26/2014 05:40 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' > >>> > >> # A network mirror

Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?

2014-06-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 27 June 2014 17:34:54 Tom H wrote: > (The regular sniping at Ubuntu on this list reflects badly on Debian > users in general and on this list's users in particular...) Why? What is intrinsically wriong with liking one distro and disliking another? I have always disliked Ubuntu, and se

Re: Please help me

2014-06-28 Thread Reco
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 19:34:13 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 09:13:01PM +0400, Reco wrote: > > > > Correct. In fact [1] can mislead people into thinking that subscribing > > to the maillist to receive an answer is unnecessary: > > tl;dr. which sentence or paragraph gives

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Kent West
On 6/27/14, 9:12 PM, Kitty Cat wrote: I can't install Debian. The USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads. I bought a used MPC computer that only has USB ports -- No PS/2 ports. The machine currently has Windows installed. When installing Debian, it is required to press a button duri

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Kent West
On 6/28/14, 8:35 AM, Kent West wrote: On 6/27/14, 9:12 PM, Kitty Cat wrote: I can't install Debian. The USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads. I had a computer once which exhibited this behavior. It's not Debian-related; it's hardware related. I couldn't even get into the BIOS,...

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Kent West
On 6/28/14, 8:42 AM, Kent West wrote: On 6/28/14, 8:35 AM, Kent West wrote: On 6/27/14, 9:12 PM, Kitty Cat wrote: I can't install Debian. The USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads. I had a computer once which exhibited this behavior. It's not Debian-related; it's hardware related.

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 23:11:48 -0600 Kitty Cat wrote: > http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-023466.htm Don't trust the manufacturer specs as most of the time your mobo has been modified according to the (big) purchaser specs. Did you try all Fn keys (several times, some BIOS

Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 09:14:09AM -0400, slitt wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700 > David Christensen wrote: > > > On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian > > > has a package first, before resorting to CPAN. > >

Re: Please help me

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 05:31:37PM +0400, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 19:34:13 +1200 > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 09:13:01PM +0400, Reco wrote: > > > > > > Correct. In fact [1] can mislead people into thinking that subscribing > > > to the maillist to receive an a

Re: Virtualized desktop

2014-06-28 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Hi, On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jimmy Thrasibule wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking to renew my hardware and I'm wondering how Debian can help > me to virtualize my desktop environment. > > My first go was to have 2 Intel NUC and 2 screens, one NUC more stable > and one I can play with. I want to

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 28 June 2014 08:02:39 Terence wrote: > A quick hardware fix is to buy a cheap (and some are very cheap- even in > the UK!) usb key-board. She's got a USB keyboard. She needs a ps/2, and tehse are almost unobtainable. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debi

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 28 June 2014 08:39:45 Kitty Cat wrote: > since there is no option for a PS/2 keyboard, Sorry. I reacted too glibly. :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: htt

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 28 June 2014 15:31:51 Lisi Reisz wrote: > She needs a ps/2, and tehse are almost > unobtainable. No, she doesn't. Mea culpa. I shouldn't dive in etc. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas..

Re: Synaptic messed up

2014-06-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 07:42:33AM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > Well then, you probably have gvim installed. Anyway editing the sources > list is easy. On your command line simply enter 'apt edit-sources' and > your default editor should pop up with your sources list already > entered. Are you s

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 03:31:51PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > She's got a USB keyboard. She needs a ps/2, and tehse are almost > unobtainable. Except a PS/2 keyboard won't help either since the computer doesn't have PS/2 ports. Cheers, Tom -- 10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0. signature.as

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 03:39:57PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > No, she doesn't. Mea culpa. I shouldn't dive in etc. Oops, sorry. Replied to your previous message before reading this one. Perhaps I should follow your advice. Cheers, Tom -- A tall, dark stranger will have more fun than you. s

Re: systemd: tty6

2014-06-28 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 6/19/14, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:24:20AM +0100, Brian wrote: >> No getty is ever spawned on tty7 so it is always available for X. If >> there are login prompts on tty1 to tty5 X will be on tty7. It cannot be >> run on tty6 because systemd keeps this as an emergency t

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-28 Thread Brian
On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 09:00:30 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote: > On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote: > > PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its documentation almost > > non-existent -- just my survival strategies :-) > > > Yes, this is one problem. There are others: 20 man

Re: White screen appears with new password check under X

2014-06-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 11:14:09 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > I recently upgraded my sid system. > > Occasionally (for example after unplugging the power and > ethernet cable) I will get a completely white screen. As I > type, a colored circle appears in the middle. > > It is checking for my user pas

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 28/06/2014 11:35 PM, Kent West wrote: > I had a computer once which exhibited this behavior. It's not > Debian-related; it's hardware related. I couldn't even get into the > BIOS, etc. i never found a solution. I gave up on the computer and gave > it to a friend who was happy running Windows. I'

Re: White screen appears with new password check under X

2014-06-28 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:14:09 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > Occasionally (for example after unplugging the power and > ethernet cable) I will get a completely white screen. As I > type, a colored circle appears in the middle. As far as a young girl with long dark soaked hair doesn't try to get out yo

Re: Media Server?

2014-06-28 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 06/27/2014 10:11 PM, Emil Payne wrote: > I'm running Debian Wheezy. Let me know what other info you need. > > I finally got the window box to read my Debian machine. Debian has > been reading Windows forever. Just got a new TV and have it connected > via WiFi to router. It can read media files (

Re: systemd: tty6

2014-06-28 Thread Brian
On Sun 29 Jun 2014 at 01:06:10 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 6/19/14, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:24:20AM +0100, Brian wrote: > >> No getty is ever spawned on tty7 so it is always available for X. If > >> there are login prompts on tty1 to tty5 X will be on tty7. It

Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

2014-06-28 Thread slitt
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 01:59:31 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 09:14:09AM -0400, slitt wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700 > > David Christensen wrote: > > > > > On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > For the record, you might find it more useful to c

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-28 Thread Rusi Mody
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote: > On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 09:00:30 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote: > > > PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its documentation almost > > > non-existent -- just my survival strat

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Thomas D. Dean
There is sometimes a very short window to access the BIOS. On my (different) system, as soon as I power up, I start tapping the F2 key, about 2 times per second. After several seconds, I get into BIOS. There may be some exact moment to press F2 one time, but, I have not found it. I can not

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Bzzzz
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 10:57:23 -0700 "Thomas D. Dean" wrote: > Maybe you need to clear the BIOS settings? I have never had to do > that. From what he said, he's done that (although removing the battery don't work, except if you wait for "some time" because of the capacitor(s) power backup). IF th

Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

2014-06-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 28 June 2014 18:07:19 slitt wrote: > Speaking of Red Hat, there's a Linux group called LEAP, and 60% of > their technical messages boil down to "Fedora screwed me again!". Careful Steve! You'll be accused of sniping again. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@l

Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

2014-06-28 Thread slitt
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 20:01:09 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 28 June 2014 18:07:19 slitt wrote: > > Speaking of Red Hat, there's a Linux group called LEAP, and 60% of > > their technical messages boil down to "Fedora screwed me again!". > > Careful Steve! You'll be accused of sniping agai

Re: Virtualized desktop

2014-06-28 Thread David Christensen
On 06/28/2014 04:52 AM, Jimmy Thrasibule wrote: I'm looking to renew my hardware and I'm wondering how Debian can help me to virtualize my desktop environment. My first go was to have 2 Intel NUC and 2 screens, one NUC more stable and one I can play with. I want to use both screens with both comp

Re: Media Server?

2014-06-28 Thread Floris
Op Sat, 28 Jun 2014 17:43:23 +0200 schreef Eduardo M KALINOWSKI : On 06/27/2014 10:11 PM, Emil Payne wrote: I'm running Debian Wheezy. Let me know what other info you need. I finally got the window box to read my Debian machine. Debian has been reading Windows forever. Just got a new TV and

Re: Synaptic messed up

2014-06-28 Thread Maureen L Thomas
On 06/28/2014 11:19 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 07:42:33AM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: Well then, you probably have gvim installed. Anyway editing the sources list is easy. On your command line simply enter 'apt edit-sources' and your default editor should pop up with your sou

Re: Virtualized desktop

2014-06-28 Thread John Bleichert
On 06/28/2014 03:27 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 06/28/2014 04:52 AM, Jimmy Thrasibule wrote: I'm looking to renew my hardware and I'm wondering how Debian can help me to virtualize my desktop environment. My first go was to have 2 Intel NUC and 2 screens, one NUC more stable and one I can

Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

2014-06-28 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 09:14:09AM -0400, slitt wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700 > David Christensen wrote: > > > On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian > > > has a package first, before resorting to CPAN. > >

Re: Synaptic messed up

2014-06-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > On 06/28/2014 11:19 AM, Tom Furie wrote: > >Are you sure the apt command is available in Wheezy? > Yes it is as I have already used it. What package is it in? I can't find it. Cheers, Tom -- BOFH excuse #68: only available o

Re: Synaptic messed up

2014-06-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 21:40:32 +0100 Tom Furie wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > On 06/28/2014 11:19 AM, Tom Furie wrote: > > > >Are you sure the apt command is available in Wheezy? > > > Yes it is as I have already used it. > > What package is it in?

OT: programming languages

2014-06-28 Thread David Christensen
On 06/28/2014 06:14 AM, slitt wrote: LOL, at a client's place, I was trying to customize the Perl-written Interchange web store software (don't ever use it, it's an atrocity) on circa 2003 Red Hat, and had to use CPAN for a new capability. That CPAN download broke the client's Vim and some other

Re: Synaptic messed up

2014-06-28 Thread Maureen L Thomas
On 06/28/2014 04:40 PM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/28/2014 11:19 AM, Tom Furie wrote: Are you sure the apt command is available in Wheezy? Yes it is as I have already used it. What package is it in? I can't find it. Cheers, Tom

Re: Synaptic messed up

2014-06-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 05:00:52PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > I go to xterm and su and the apt commands work or at least they > appear to. I haven't gotten any errors or weird stuff from it. I wasn't referring to the apt-* commands, but to the apt command, as mentioned by Stephen, which wa

Re: Debian sid - kernel modules do not compile - too many open files

2014-06-28 Thread MRH
On 20/06/14 22:43, MRH wrote: Hi, Sorry - a bit long perhaps. But I have no idea what has happened and how should I fix the problem in a 'proper' way. The story: Recently I noticed a weird problem. I'm not sure when it has happened, but since some time the kernel modules do not compile / initra

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-27 11:38:50 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:07:40PM +0200, François Patte wrote: > > This what is writen as dependencies in packages... OK but I am > > wondering why gthumb (and its dependencies) needs to install systemd > > That sounds like a challenge :) > > g

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-28 Thread Brian
On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 10:09:28 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 09:00:30 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > > > On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote: > > > > PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-25 14:26:03 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non > interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. > > I have learn a lot of things because I used aptitude with it's ncurses > interface. It featu

Re: the "ilow" urgency

2014-06-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-28 13:44:25 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 28.06.2014 13:27, schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > > I can see a package with the "ilow" urgency: > > > > mythes (2:1.2.4-1) unstable; urgency=ilow > > > > * New upstream release > > > > * use autotools-dev (closes: #727282) > > > > -- Rene

Re: White screen appears with new password check under X - Solved: it was i3lock

2014-06-28 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 05:59:19PM +0200, B wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:14:09 -1000 > Joel Roth wrote: > > > Occasionally (for example after unplugging the power and > > ethernet cable) I will get a completely white screen. As I > > type, a colored circle appears in the middle. > > As fa

Re: OT: programming languages

2014-06-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 14:02:54 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > On 06/28/2014 06:14 AM, slitt wrote: > > LOL, at a client's place, I was trying to customize the > > Perl-written Interchange web store software (don't ever use it, it's > > an atrocity) on circa 2003 Red Hat, and had to use CPAN for a

Re: Virtualized desktop

2014-06-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-28 15:10:45 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > You can use a VM as your samba server... or NFS. Either way do use LVM. Or ZFS? http://changelog.complete.org/archives/9152-why-and-how-to-run-zfs-on-linux My IaaS provider has switched from LVM to ZFS, so I think this is for some reason...

Re: Virtualized desktop

2014-06-28 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 01:03:35 +0200 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > My IaaS provider has switched from LVM to ZFS, so I think this is > for some reason... Two in one compared to LVM+whatever, not to mention failure of LVM or whatever usually clobbers the whole thing (definitely), integrated snapshots,

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-28 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 6/28/14, Brian wrote: > On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 23:14:26 -0400, slitt wrote: >> that's simple: Boot the damn computer with a menu to choose predefined >> kernel/initrd/disk combinations, and nothing else. And for gosh sakes, >> keep it in one file. If a config option is about "pretty", leave tha

Re: White screen appears with new password check under X - Solved: it was i3lock

2014-06-28 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 6/29/14, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 05:59:19PM +0200, B wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:14:09 -1000 >> Joel Roth wrote: >> >> > Occasionally (for example after unplugging the power and >> > ethernet cable) I will get a completely white screen. As I >> > type, a colored cir

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-28 Thread Rusi Mody
On Sunday, June 29, 2014 4:00:01 AM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote: > On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 10:09:28 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > > On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 09:00:30 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > > > On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi M

Re: OT: programming languages

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 06:37:09PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > First, this isn't the slightest bit OT. A week doesn't go by where I > don't need to write either a simple script or a slightly bigger program > to make Linux do just what I want. I disagree. It has NOTHING to do with debian support,

Re: OT: programming languages

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 02:02:54PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > What do people like instead of Perl, and why? Are you aware of the OT mailing list: Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic -- "If you're n

Re: USB 3.0 support

2014-06-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 27/06/14 11:25 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 06/27/14 14:47, Gary Dale wrote: This may not be revelant, but, I had a problem with USB 3.0 devices under Ubuntu. I traced that to a linux USB bug. I think I still see artifacts of USB problems in both Ubuntu and Debian. [Bug 1151622] Re: 050

Re: OT: programming languages

2014-06-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 14:52:25 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 02:02:54PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > > > What do people like instead of Perl, and why? > > Are you aware of the OT mailing list: > Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: > http://lists

Re: Synaptic messed up

2014-06-28 Thread Maureen L Thomas
On 06/28/2014 05:17 PM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 05:00:52PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: I go to xterm and su and the apt commands work or at least they appear to. I haven't gotten any errors or weird stuff from it. I wasn't referring to the apt-* commands, but to the apt c

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Terence
A quick hardware fix is to buy a cheap (and some are very cheap- even in the UK!) usb key-board. Or you may have a friend with one that you can borrow for an hour. Saki On 28 June 2014 06:11, Kitty Cat wrote: > Yes. I have previously searched and found such things like this: > > http://www.in

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-28 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote: > PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its documentation almost > non-existent -- just my survival strategies :-) Yes, this is one problem. There are others: - what documentation is existent is not easy to undestand, syntax is complicated.

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Kitty Cat
OK. I managed to get Debian installed. Here is what I did: I had previously installed the Debian installer stuff from the DVD into the Windows bootloader. However, since my keyboard didn't work I couldn't tell the computer to start the Debian installer from the Windows bootloader menu, so I only h

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 06/27/14 22:11, Kitty Cat wrote: Yes. I have previously searched and found such things like this: Bios may access the keyboard without turning on any leds. Look at http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000192.htm Turn on power to the computer. As soon as you do this, start pressing the F

Re: Please help me

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 08:09:57AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 06/27/2014 01:56 AM, Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 01:15:53PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > >> Makes you wonder how many people who install Debian

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Thomas D. Dean
When you try to access BIOS from thekeyboard, make sure the keyboard is connected directly to the computer, not through a hub. Tom Dean -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: Please help me

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 09:13:01PM +0400, Reco wrote: > > Correct. In fact [1] can mislead people into thinking that subscribing > to the maillist to receive an answer is unnecessary: tl;dr. which sentence or paragraph gives you this impression? > [1] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.en

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Kitty Cat
My USB keyboard is connected directly to the computer. I have also tried it in every USB port on the computer. The keyboard doesn't even work at the Windows bootloader menu or the Grub menu or the menu I get when I boot the Debian DVD. I did manage to get Debian installed as I said in my other me

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 01:39:45AM -0600, Kitty Cat wrote: > I'm thinking that a previous owner turned off the legacy USB keyboard > support in the CMOS and since there is no option for a PS/2 keyboard, I > think it may be stuck without keyboard access at boot time. If you can find a manual for t

Re: White screen appears with new password check under X

2014-06-28 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 6/28/14, Joel Roth wrote: > I recently upgraded my sid system. > > Occasionally (for example after unplugging the power and > ethernet cable) I will get a completely white screen. As I > type, a colored circle appears in the middle. > > It is checking for my user password. > > I am not using xd

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Kitty Cat
That was a good idea. I tried it, but the keyboard still did not work. I believe this is the correct motherboard: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/dsktpboards/dq965co There is a barcode sticker on the mobo with that number on it. I only got the computer when I bought it. No manua

Re: Iptables

2014-06-28 Thread Diogene Laerce
On 06/27/2014 09:52 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 06/27/2014 03:31 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: > >> On 06/27/2014 08:36 PM, PaulNM wrote: > >>> On 06/27/2014 02:00 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: > I didn't or at least not on purpose. I just reply to the list on a random message and make a ne

Re: Iptables

2014-06-28 Thread Diogene Laerce
On 06/27/2014 11:15 PM, PaulNM wrote: > > > On 06/27/2014 03:31 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> >> >> On 06/27/2014 08:36 PM, PaulNM wrote: >>> In Thunderbird/IceDove you'll have to add it as a custom header when >>> setting up the filter, but it's *way* better than trying to filter by >>> the con

Re: overcoming apt's resistance to broken packages

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 04:29:51PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > I agree with Josh Triplett that autodetection looking only for 'ati' > rather than for the individual modules which 'ati' can implicitly load > is a bug that should be fixed. (The "point" of doing so - questioned in > the last comme

Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 11:11:48PM -0600, Kitty Cat wrote: > So, what I think I need to do is find a way to get the Debian install DVD > to bypass the need to press a key until such time that a USB keyboard > driver loads or something like that. I'd try a 'Live CD' first to see if all functions ar