Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 08:53:27PM -0500, Stephen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:31:29AM + or thereabouts, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:44:18 -0500 > > Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hello Friends: > > > > > > After upgrading to Etch, vim doesn't show colou

Re: No sound in Thinkpad Z61M after configuring ALSA -RESOLVED

2007-02-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 04:48:00PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > Just to round off this saga for anyone who's been following it: I tried > Ubuntu and what do you know: sound works! As an added bonus, so does the > built-in wireless. So I shall have to install Ubuntu (well, at least is > is more

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-05 Thread breeze50
2007/2/5, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 08:53:27PM -0500, Stephen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:31:29AM + or thereabouts, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:44:18 -0500 > > Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hello Friends: > > > > > >

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-05 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:04:45PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > Is there any way I can have debian help me figure out if there is stuff > that should be removed such as libraries that nothing uses -- naturally > I did not remove a single library myself. > > I ran "deborphan -z" but at a glance it look

Re: No sound in Thinkpad Z61M after configuring ALSA -RESOLVED

2007-02-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Feb 2007, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 04:48:00PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > Just to round off this saga for anyone who's been following it: I tried > > Ubuntu and what do you know: sound works! As an added bonus, so does the > > built-in wireless. So I shall have

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-05 Thread Paul Walsh
Paul Johnson wrote: > s. keeling wrote: > >> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> as has already been said, natural sponges, having protien content, >>> would surely have some reaction in a microwave. That said, we all know >>> that 1) there's nothing natural about the aforementioned

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-05 Thread Paul Walsh
s. keeling wrote: > Well, since you brought it up: > >--- > The following poem is excerpted with permission from Lee Leitner's > "Viewpoint" column which is featured in a bimonthly periodical for > Prime INFORMATION users called INFOCUS magazine

Trouble with encrypted filesystems

2007-02-05 Thread Dan H.
Hello, it's me again: After "solving" my troubles with transferring data between different storage devices (see the recent thread "System freeze when copying files" on this list, archived at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/02/msg00129.html) by using the linux-image-2.6.18-486 kernel inste

Re: Boot disk vs. LILO

2007-02-05 Thread Kyle K. Chang
Hi Steve, Not sure if this is going to get to you or not. It's Kyle from the old core group. Just wanted to connect and touch base and see if I can reach folks from the old gang. Kyle K Chang, Broker, ABR C&C Realty Group, Inc. - LoftsNHomes.com Direct Line: 312-373-7120 E-mail: [EMAIL

Re: font problems

2007-02-05 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 00:17:36 -0500 "Mike Polyakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > >Is this a bitmap font? Fontconfig (the font library used by GTK and > >QT) ignores bitmap fonts by default. To change this, run > >'dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config' as root and answer yes to the > >question r

Re: Removing desktop environments (Beware! stupid post)

2007-02-05 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 09:54:43AM +0100, wrote: > Also debfoster2aptitude (provided by debfoster) might be of interest > for you. debfoster2aptitude because debfoster is deprecated by > aptitude, but this way you have can migrate your debfoster decision to > aptitude. It can be run in interactiv

Re: Trouble with encrypted filesystems

2007-02-05 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 10:31:19 +0100, Dan H. wrote: > Hello, it's me again: > > After "solving" my troubles with transferring data between different > storage devices (see the recent thread "System freeze when copying > files" on this list, archived at > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/

Re: ipw2200 on linux image 2.6.18

2007-02-05 Thread Surachai Locharoen
2007/2/4, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Surachai Locharoen wrote: > I found this error in syslog > > **Feb 4 16:24:20 surachai kernel: usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4 > Feb 4 16:24:24 surachai kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device > using uhci_hcd and address 5 > Feb 4 16:24:24

Problem connecting to Wifi network

2007-02-05 Thread Justin Hartman
Hi guys I'm having difficulty connecting to my wireless network at the office. My wifi card and settings work perfectly for my home network as I use a 64-bit wep key however the office is slightly different. The network I am battling to connect to uses TKIP for data encryption and WPAPSK for net

Re: re-partition my hard disk

2007-02-05 Thread Michael Pobega
rocky wrote: > Hey all, > > On my PC I have 2 hard disks. The primary one has Windows XP > installed. Afterwards, I decide to learn Linux. So I got another Hard > disk and installed Debian stable successfully on it. Now, I'm thinking > of make my PC serve as the file back up server for my home offi

debian/unstable+KDE: screensaver/lock session not working

2007-02-05 Thread Bruno . Voigt
Hi all, I have a debian/unstable box running KDE which gets nearly daily patched. For some months ago the screensaver and KDE kicker lock session button stopped working. manual starting of xscreensaver & running xscreensaver-command -lock works. How does the kdscreensaver & session lock mechan

Re: debian/unstable+KDE: screensaver/lock session not working

2007-02-05 Thread Michael Pobega
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a debian/unstable box running KDE which gets nearly daily patched. For some months ago the screensaver and KDE kicker lock session button stopped working. manual starting of xscreensaver & running xscreensaver-command -lock works. How does the kdscre

debian rocks!

2007-02-05 Thread Bruno Buys
Just count one more happy debian user! Reinstalled yesterday, to switch from x86 sarge to amd64 etch. Everything went flawlessly. Downloaded last netinst, booted it, hardware detected smoothly. The machine has two sound cards, both worked as before. I chose manual disk editing, reformatted both

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Greg Folkert wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 22:54 +, J.A. de Vries wrote: On 2007-02-04 @ 08:45:38 (week 05) Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: But how is their Linux support? I would buy Tripp-Lite because it is readily available here in Mexico, but, again, how is the Linux support? Hi all, Thanks f

Re: What UPS to buy: a MGE Evolution 850 or an APC Smart-UPS 750?

2007-02-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/04/07 15:15, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:49:47PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/04/07 07:59, Colin wrote: J.A. de Vries wrote: Hi, Due to power outages at my home I want

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 22:54 +, J.A. de Vries wrote: On 2007-02-04 @ 08:45:38 (week 05) Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: But how is their Linux support? I would buy Tripp-Lite because it is readily available here in Mexico, but, again, how is the Linux sup

Re: debian/unstable+KDE: screensaver/lock session not working

2007-02-05 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:58:52 +0100, Bruno Voigt wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a debian/unstable box running KDE which gets nearly daily patched. > For some months ago the screensaver and KDE kicker lock session button > stopped working. > > manual starting of xscreensaver & running xscreensave

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-05 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 09:43:42PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > s. keeling writes: > > We're really not sure what the poem actually is > > about. Here it goes: > > ><>!*''# > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >!*'$_ > >%*<>#4 > >&)../ > >|{~~SYSTEM HALTED > > > Yes, but what does it

Re: bug in etch: "iceweasel -safe-mode" segfaults. disabling pango corrects this.

2007-02-05 Thread John Hasler
Noah Dain writes: > If I'm the only one in the world with the problem, big whoop. It's still a bug even if no one else on this list is currently affected by it. Please report it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [E

Re: bug in etch: "iceweasel -safe-mode" segfaults. disabling pango corrects this.

2007-02-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Noah Dain wrote: When I go to http://syscp-forum.org/ and scroll down the page, iceweasel segfaults. It does so even with a fresh ~/.mozilla and running with "-safe-mode" option. The crash happens immediately and is 100% reproducible. However, if I use env variable "MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1", icewe

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:54:15PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > I think that with proper documentation and presentation, it need not > bring a "stupidity" to debian. I think we are in the unique position of > being able to grow our own good debian users out of BDUs. By-the-way, > we nee

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-05 Thread John Hasler
hendrik writes: > Doesn't look like Perl to me. Might be TECO, though. You're right. Much more like TECO. Maybe a quotation from the first version of Emacs? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-05 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 09:28:06PM +1300 or thereabouts, Chris Bannister wrote: Hi Chris: > What type of file are you trying to edit? What error message do you get? > Is this with a clean .vimrc file? Yes, the skeleton sample from the install, and I've been trying this primarily on *.php files,

Re: Problem connecting to Wifi network

2007-02-05 Thread Wackojacko
Justin Hartman wrote: Hi guys I'm having difficulty connecting to my wireless network at the office. My wifi card and settings work perfectly for my home network as I use a 64-bit wep key however the office is slightly different. The network I am battling to connect to uses TKIP for data encryp

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-05 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 04:21:16PM +0800 or thereabouts, breeze50 wrote: > I think the version you installed is vim-tiny, it don't include > [syntax] function. Actually no, but I would have agreed with you earlier on in this thread, when I installed vim-full. I guess you haven't bothered reading

RE: mailx

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Critchlow
This works, thanks! I have one other question which I have searched the new and cannot find anything about this issue: When a user logs into the debian box they get "You Have newmail" For some reason there isn't a space in between 'new' and 'mail'. Anyone know how to correct this? Thanks

Re: Netinstall via bridge [SOLVED]

2007-02-05 Thread celejar
On 2/4/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > You win :). I couldn't get a bridge working properly, so I connected > laptop <-> lucy via a spare switch that I bought specifically for this > purpose. I first tried a straight cable connection, hoping that NICs > (a several ye

Re: debian/unstable+KDE: screensaver/lock session not working

2007-02-05 Thread Bruno . Voigt
Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 05.02.2007 14:39:10: > AFAIK, KDE does not use xscreensaver but provides its own screensaver > (and locking) functionality as a part of the "kdesktop" process (which > is normally started by kdeinit). > > You can check if kdesktop is running with "ps

Re: Determining character encoding for a given file

2007-02-05 Thread Kim Christensen
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-01-31 06:58:16 -0600]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/31/07 02:33, Kim Christensen wrote: > > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-01-30 12:49:00 +0100]: > > > >> On 2007-01-30 06:40:52 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > >>> On

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Michael M.
David Jardine wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:54:15PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [...] The Dreyfus Model of Sill Acquisition [1], describes skills acquisition as passing through five levels: novice, advanced beginner, competent, proficient, and expert. [...]

Re: install 4.0 on usb hdd

2007-02-05 Thread Zoran Kolic
Thanks all for responses! (Douglas Allan Tutty) > As I understand it, some enclosures are bootable and some aren't. Hm! I'll get hdd for few days. And, I still have patient to get final 4.0 to make install. (Hugo Vanwoerkom) > I am having trouble using my USB disk with mkinitrd.yaird ... I plan

Re: debian rocks!

2007-02-05 Thread Shobhit Jindal
a damm happy user here too :) On 2/5/07, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just count one more happy debian user! Reinstalled yesterday, to switch from x86 sarge to amd64 etch. Everything went flawlessly. Downloaded last netinst, booted it, hardware detected smoothly. The machine has two so

Re: debian/unstable+KDE: screensaver/lock session not working

2007-02-05 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 16:03:21 +0100, Bruno Voigt wrote: > Florian Kulzer schrieb am 05.02.2007 14:39:10: [...] > > I don't know all the details, but I know that you should be able to lock > > the screen under KDE with the following command: > > > > dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock > > >

Re: Sound jerking with via 82xx soundcard

2007-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-01-24 18:35:10, schrieb Atis: > Hi, > > A little update to the sound jerking problem. > > If i unload most of applications, leave almost plain KDE, i can hear > KDE startup sound almost normally, just few flickers... > > however no chances of running any kind of media player.. here's an

best terminal emulator for emacs -nw?

2007-02-05 Thread Tyler Smith
Hi, I'm trying to get emacs setup for mutt and slrn. It works really well, except for one thing. When I use it as my editor with emacs -nw, the alt- key combos get muddled by xterm en route to emacs, so that I have to use ESC instead. Is this unavoidable, or is there a terminal emulator that allow

Re: How to make work dual monitors with Debian etch on an IBM x60s ThinkPad?

2007-02-05 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-02-01, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 12:27:29 +, Tyler Smith wrote: >> >> I've been wanting to set up my R60 so that I can use my desktop monitor >> >> for a while. However, reading this thread and googling around, checking >> >> the thinkwiki, i'

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-01-19 21:15:15, schrieb Henrik Enberg: > Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'd be curious to know what applications are spouting crap into > > it. There'd be a round of bugs filed by me on them. > > Mine is full of spewage from GTK-based apps. Please write Bugreports against the

Re: Adaptec 1540CF (aha1542) not detected

2007-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-01-29 19:57:57, schrieb Oliver Twist: > greetings... :) > > I am trying to install etch RC1 on a old machine with an Adaptec aha1540CF > ISA SCSI card, but cannot seem to get debian to detect the controller. Detect yes, but bot bootable... The AHA1540CF is a Low-Cost controler (a stripe

Re: Sound jerking with via 82xx soundcard

2007-02-05 Thread Raffaele Morelli
Artsd is nothing wrong, it's just used for KDE sounds.. none of players tried was using it. For being sure, i just killed it before next tests. Just tried mplayer, surprisingly it played almost normal (lag every 5 or so seconds :D), i set verbosity to 5, and got some output at moment of lag (se

Re: Netinstall via bridge [SOLVED]

2007-02-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:33:07 -0500 celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For posterity, I'll add: I didn't use dhcp on either NIC, since that > would have caused havoc by changing the gateway and nameserver > information had I used the (new) router's dhcp server, and setting up > my own would have b

PCMCIA/PCI Wireless Card 802.11a/b/g for private Mesh

2007-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Mesh- and Wireless geeks, since my 4 Mobilhomes and my Truck is nearly complete, I have some problems with the Wireless connection between the Mobilehomes, the Truck and the Trailer. I need a realy powerfull Wireless card which support a/b/g standards in a Wireless-Mesh to connect all 6 per

Re: [ANNOUNCE] tdapp-defaults: localization and themeing

2007-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello John, Am 2007-01-18 09:29:26, schrieb John C: > Michelle Konzack wrote: > >Dear Debian Developers, Mentors, Womens, Contributors and Users, > > > >first of all Happy new Year and may this new year bring us many new ideas > >and continuing best GNU/Linux distribution of the world. > > Happy

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:15:44 -0800 "Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the issue people aren't addressing in this thread is one of > goals. Most people who use Windows are not much more than novices or > advanced beginners with respect to the intricacies of Windows > operation. Par

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:53:03 -0500 Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:50:23PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > On Sunday 04 February 2007 16:38, Ken Heard wrote: > > > If the documentation editors are to > > > be volunteers, good ones will not be attrac

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:44:30 -0500 Kevin Coyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some of APC's UPS units allow you to set the voltage sensitivity via > dip switches, some of the units allow you to set it via software, and > some don't let you adjust the sensitivity. So if you plan to back up > your ba

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:49:17PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > My question is just /how/ unstable is Debian Sid? It is unstable when it is unstable :) Currently under freeze, very stable indeed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

highmem kernel question

2007-02-05 Thread Tyler Smith
Hi, I've upgraded my RAM from 512M to 1.5G, (the original 512 plus a new 1GB chip). I've installed it correctly, as verified by the BIOS and WinXP on the same machine. Debian testing only sees 906792kb vs 1563056kb in WinXP. Google tells me that I need a kernel with highmem support. I can't sort o

making ez-ipupdate work

2007-02-05 Thread Peter Easthope
Debian users, I aim to use gnudip _via_ ez-ipupdate. Tyler MacDonald instructed '... create an "A" RR record ...' and I have no idea what it is. The sourceforge page for ez-ipupdate says that bind is needed. Conversely, the Debian Network Administrator's Manual remarks "If you are setting up a

Re: highmem kernel question

2007-02-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:32:01 GMT Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've upgraded my RAM from 512M to 1.5G, (the original 512 plus a new > 1GB chip). I've installed it correctly, as verified by the BIOS and > WinXP on the same machine. Debian testing only sees 906792kb vs > 1563056k

Re: highmem kernel question

2007-02-05 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/05/07 11:32, Tyler Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I've upgraded my RAM from 512M to 1.5G, (the original 512 plus a new > 1GB chip). I've installed it correctly, as verified by the BIOS and > WinXP on the same machine. Debian testing only sees 906792kb v

Re: Kernel 2.6.17

2007-02-05 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 04 February 2007 18:54, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:51:28PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > I have a question though. I have a 2.6.17 kernel in > > /var/cache/apt/archives. This was from the archives I copied from my > > other Etch install. Synaptic now only shows a

VMWare on current kernels (was: debian rocks!)

2007-02-05 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi! On 2/5/07, Shobhit Jindal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/5/07, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only > catch ins't debian related: vmware seems to not like my > /usr/src/include/linux, and asks for a new linux/version.h. i have been stuck to kernel 2.6.18-1-686 for the very sam

Re: EXT3-fs error, directory contains a hole

2007-02-05 Thread José Pablo Fernández
On Thursday 01 February 2007 19:41, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/01/07 16:18, José Pablo Fernández wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Wednesday 31 January 2007 20:20, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > >> Its been years since I ran ext* but I don't think it can hurt to do > >> another fsck with the filesystem to

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:24:11PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > Jan C. Nordholz wrote: > >Hi, > > > > > deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates testing contrib > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates testing contrib/ > > >>>Your first line points to testing

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-05 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 22:54 +, J.A. de Vries wrote: On 2007-02-04 @ 08:45:38 (week 05) Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >>> NUT. Powerchute for Linux is CRAP. Unless they had "de-windows-ified" >>> it. >> >> >> What's NUT? >>

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-05 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >>> Greg Folkert wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 22:54 +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > On 2007-02-04 @ 08:45:38 (week 05) Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: NUT. Powerchute for Linux is CRAP. Unless they had "de-windows-ifie

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:12:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:15:44 -0800 > "Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think the issue people aren't addressing in this thread is one of > > goals. Most people who use Windows are not much more than novices or > > ad

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:15:44AM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > "why Debian instead of Ubuntu/SuSE/Linspire/etc.?" Do that and I doubt > you'd get too many users for whom Debian probably isn't the best choice. > maybe our focus, as a trying-to-be-helpful user community is to examine what the deri

Re: VMWare on current kernels (was: debian rocks!)

2007-02-05 Thread Bruno Buys
Margarita Manterola wrote: Hi! On 2/5/07, Shobhit Jindal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/5/07, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only > catch ins't debian related: vmware seems to not like my > /usr/src/include/linux, and asks for a new linux/version.h. i have been stuck to kernel 2

Re: relationship between debian's wiki and newbiedoc's wiki

2007-02-05 Thread Chris Lale
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:36:06 -0500 Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you changed the licence to be DFSG compliant, I would be happy to contribute. Then again, if you did that, perhaps NewbieDoc's wiki could be merged to Debian's. GFDL is considere

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:37:50PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > I did notice that /usr/share/ has over 700M of stuff in it and this > looks suspicious. my /usr/share/doc has 154M of stuff, maybe you could kill some -doc packages... just a thought. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

howto build debian xen kernel?

2007-02-05 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hello, I just tried to build a debian xen kernel, based on linux-source-2.6.18, linux-patch-debian-2.6.18 and kernel-package. According to the docs i found, i can apply the debian kernel sources in the following way: resivo:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.18$ ../kernel-patches/all/2.6.18/apply/debian

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-05 Thread Chris Lale
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:18:20PM +, Chris Lale wrote: I hope not! Perhaps we need a debian-newbie-users list? It would need some more-experienced users prepared to monitor the list and offer "gentle" advice. The NewbieDOC project used to have a list like th

ping: invalid argument

2007-02-05 Thread Max Hyre
Dear Debianists: Between two successive calls to ping, it crapped out. (Tried twice in a row because I had a flaky DSL connection, and wanted to see whether it had decided to join the party.) == [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifup eth0 DHCPACK from 192.168.0.1 bound t

Re: ping: invalid argument

2007-02-05 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 05/02/2007 Max Hyre wrote: >Dear Debianists: > >Between two successive calls to ping, it crapped out. > (Tried twice in a row because I had a flaky DSL connection, > and wanted to see whether it had decided to join the party.) > > == > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# i

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Michael Pobega
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:15:44AM -0800, Michael M. wrote: "why Debian instead of Ubuntu/SuSE/Linspire/etc.?" Do that and I doubt you'd get too many users for whom Debian probably isn't the best choice. maybe our focus, as a trying-to-be-helpful user co

Re: VMWare on current kernels (was: debian rocks!)

2007-02-05 Thread Jan Schledermann
Margarita Manterola wrote: > Hi! > > On 2/5/07, Shobhit Jindal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 2/5/07, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > The only >> > catch ins't debian related: vmware seems to not like my >> > /usr/src/include/linux, and asks for a new linux/version.h. >> >> i have b

Re: ping: invalid argument

2007-02-05 Thread Max Hyre
Jonas Meurer wrote: > I guess that the problem is '-n 1'. According to the ping manpage, the > option '-n' takes no argument: AAARRRrrrghh! I should have used `-c 1'. I'm so used to using another implementation that uses -n for the number of pings that I forgot to check what I was doing. That

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-05 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun February 4 2007 14:37, cga2000 wrote: > I did notice that /usr/share/ has over 700M of stuff in it and this > looks suspicious. That sounds about right. I have a base install plus kde and my /usr/share/ is 1.8G. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: highmem kernel question

2007-02-05 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-02-05, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:32:01 GMT > Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've upgraded my RAM from 512M to 1.5G, ... Google tells me that I >> need a kernel with highmem support. ... which one? >> >> Linux blackbart 2.6.

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Chris Lale
Michael Pobega wrote: Ken Heard wrote: If GNU-Linux is going to make any serious inroads in the BDU market (BDU=brain dead user) which Microsoft dominates faute de mieux, there has to be documentation which the average BDU can understand. In the distros about which I have had personal experien

Re: Friendly registrar

2007-02-05 Thread Max Hyre
Brian Keefer wrote: > In light of what happened Wednesday, does anyone else have any > additional suggestions for non-US registrars that won't yank your > delegation just because a major corporation told them to (it seems > GoDaddy would rather dump their customers than anger a major > corporation

Re: VMWare on current kernels

2007-02-05 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 the mental interface of Jan Schledermann told: [...] > A significant difference between the pre-compiled 2.6.18-1-686 > kernel and the source code, is that the source code by default > creates version 2.6.18 and NOT 2.6.18-1-686. This version > difference could cause the compil

Re: VMWare on current kernels (was: debian rocks!)

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Perrin
Take a look here: http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=76957&tstart=0 Essentially, vmware in its raw state doesn't compile with relatively newer kernels. You need patches to make them work. You can find these patches at http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware . Once you down

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Chris Lale
Michael Pobega wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [...] I think in reality Debian doesn't cater to a lot of people's needs On the other hand, there must be a lot of people who would find Debian a great solution if only they could get started. (The more common desktop user just wants Beryl

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Michael Pobega
Although, I am interested in helping to bring more people to Debian. I know that everyone is a BDU at one time, down to both you and me. If you need any help e-mail me at this address with anything you need done. Perhaps there are enough contributors to this thread who are interested i

Re: VMWare on current kernels

2007-02-05 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 20:38 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 the mental interface of > Jan Schledermann told: > > [...] > > A significant difference between the pre-compiled 2.6.18-1-686 > > kernel and the source code, is that the source code by default > > creates version 2.

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:44:30 -0500 Kevin Coyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some of APC's UPS units allow you to set the voltage sensitivity via dip switches, some of the units allow you to set it via software, and some don't let you adjust the sensitivity. So if you plan t

Re: VMWare on current kernels (was: debian rocks!)

2007-02-05 Thread Shobhit Jindal
some news myself just installed kernel 2.6.18-4-686 and vmware (vmware-config.pl) was configured without giving the error - no linux/version.h in /usr/src/include/linux not to mention 2.6.18-3-686 and 2.6.18-2-686 did give the error! On 2/5/07, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 02:07:39PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:15:44AM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > > > > >>"why Debian instead of Ubuntu/SuSE/Linspire/etc.?" Do that and I doubt > >>you'd get too many users for whom Debian probably i

Re: best terminal emulator for emacs -nw?

2007-02-05 Thread Michael V. De Palatis
Tyler, On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 03:55:05PM +, Tyler Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get emacs setup for mutt and slrn. It works really well, > except for one thing. When I use it as my editor with emacs -nw, the > alt- key combos get muddled by xterm en route to emacs, so that I have > to

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:45:17PM +, Chris Lale wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > >Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >[...] I think in reality Debian doesn't cater to a lot of people's > >needs > > On the other hand, there must be a lot of people who would find Debian a > great solution if on

Re: Problem connecting to Wifi network

2007-02-05 Thread Justin Hartman
Thanks Wackojacko. To fix my problem all I had to do was add this to my interfaces file: iface eth0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid crcwifi wpa-psk password Thanks for your help! -- Regards Justin Hartman PGP Key ID: 102CC123 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Michael Pobega
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 02:07:39PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: The one thing I really don't understand, though, is why people use Ubuntu. bleh. responsing anyway... I return to the example of my mom. Many people don't want to "update" their system. The

Unknown message when starting Icedove

2007-02-05 Thread Niels Rasmussen
Hi list, I'm running debian testing etch. I have this line in my.xsession-errors: DOUBLE-CLICK: 400 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 Warning: unrecognized command line flag -P It appears everytime I start Icedove. What does this mean ?? -- /Niels Registred Linux user #133791 Get counted at http

Re: Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Michael M. wrote: "why Debian instead of Ubuntu/SuSE/Linspire/etc.?" Do that and I doubt you'd get too many users for whom Debian probably isn't the best choice. Well I think at the very least, we could all come up with answers to this for ourselves. I know for me it involves two things: 1) D

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 03:24:56PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 02:07:39PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > >>The one thing I really don't understand, though, is why people use > >>Ubuntu. > >> > > > >bleh. responsing anyway... >

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Michael Pobega
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 03:24:56PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 02:07:39PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: The one thing I really don't understand, though, is why people use Ubuntu. bl

Re: best terminal emulator for emacs -nw?

2007-02-05 Thread Gnu_Raiz
>From: Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote one day while in band camp: > I'm trying to get emacs setup for mutt and slrn. It works really well, > except for one thing. When I use it as my editor with emacs -nw, the > alt- key combos get muddled by xterm en route to emacs, so that I have > to use

Re: best terminal emulator for emacs -nw?

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas Dickey
Gnu_Raiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>From: Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wrote one day while in band camp: >> I'm trying to get emacs setup for mutt and slrn. It works really well, >> except for one thing. When I use it as my editor with emacs -nw, the >> alt- key combos get muddled by xterm

Re: Sound jerking with via 82xx soundcard

2007-02-05 Thread Atis
On 2/5/07, Raffaele Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Artsd is nothing wrong, it's just used for KDE sounds.. none of > players tried was using it. For being sure, i just killed it before > next tests. > > Just tried mplayer, surprisingly it played almost normal (lag every 5 > or so seconds

[no subject]

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Critchlow
I have a question which I have searched the internet and cannot find anything about this issue:When a user logs into the debian box they get "You Have newmail"For some reason there isn't a space in between 'new' and 'mail'. Anyone know how to correct this? Thanks

Re: Xorg will not start -- Success report

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:55:40PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: > > The key question is why did the installer on the Etch RC1 CDROM not > install all the dependencies of the xserver-xorg? Only three were > installed: x-server-xorg-core, and two others which I did not need: > x-server-imputs-acecad

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-05 Thread Steve Mazurek
Good points, but the people who don't or don't want to upgrade aren't just people who are afraid to change. A friend who first introduced me to Debian still uses Woody. He hasn't upgraded because he downloaded a lot of packages and upgrading would require more time than he has available. I'd li

system freezes with Matrox G400 and GLX

2007-02-05 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hello, I use a Matrox G400 DH as graphics controller, and i run debian/unstable on an amd64 system. Unfortunately this leads to system freezes when i try to use 3d rendering (GLX). Some examples which do always freeze my system are xmms visualisations, tuxkart and mixxx. Do you have any suggest

  1   2   >