Re: erased iPod software

2004-12-25 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Freitag, den 24.12.2004, 23:24 + schrieb Thomas McLean: > If you find the correct key sequence can you please post it here! Resetting the iPod removes the data. Since my iPod is fine (beside the wrong OS is running on it :-) ) I will not even try. Sorry. Bye, Ratti -- -o) fontlin

Re: erased iPod software

2004-12-25 Thread Robert Vangel
To reset, hold menu+play/pause for about 10 secs (guessing.. http://www.ipodlounge.com/faqs_more.php?id=1597_0_10_0_C) Jules Dubois wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:58:21 +0200, George Iordanou wrote: Unfortunately the ipod won't start since i erased its software. Any ideas how to restore it? The d

Re: erased iPod software [SOLVED]

2004-12-25 Thread George Iordanou
Thanks a lot, everything is fine now. The key combination was to trun the "hold" button off, on and again off. You've been extremely helpful, i guess this is the magic of the open community. Thanks a lot! Best regards, George -- George Iordanou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Blog: www.livejournal.com/user

What is wrong with debian X windows?

2004-12-25 Thread Hantsy Bai
Package: xserver-xfree86 Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 $ uname -a Linux debian 2.6.8-1-k7 #1 Thu Nov 25 04:13:37 UTC 2004 i686 GNU/Linux $ locale LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_TIME="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="zh_C

Re: erased iPod software [SOLVED]

2004-12-25 Thread George Iordanou
Thanks a lot, everything is fine now. The key combination was to trun the "hold" button off, on and again off, then i pressed "Menu" and "Play" button together for about 10 secs. You've been extremely helpful, i guess this is the magic of the open community. Thanks a lot! Best regards, George PS.

no kdm after upgrade to sarge

2004-12-25 Thread jianan1
Hi, My system cannot go into kdm after I upgraded from 'stable' to 'testing'. The documents in '/usr/share/doc' do not offer any help. Seem to be out-of-date. After what seems like ages following login, gnome screen appears. Windows can be opened but not sized or moved about. Help! thks -- To

Re: {advocay] Linspire machine

2004-12-25 Thread Katipo
stan wrote: I bought a machine with Linspire preloaded on it today. Nice machien, and cheaper than I could build it. A bit short on RAM, and the CD is a reader only (no CD writer or DVD). But great value for the $299. Reading through the manual that comes with it, I find no information as to h

Re: no kdm after upgrade to sarge

2004-12-25 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 04:56:05PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My system cannot go into kdm after I upgraded from 'stable' to 'testing'. do you have the "kdm" package installed? what about the "kde-core" and "kde" packages? does /etc/init.d/kdm start work? > After what seems like ages fol

Nothing from list for two days

2004-12-25 Thread Anthony Campbell
For the last 2-3 days I've stopped getting anything from this list. If anyone _is_ still getting mail I'd be interested to know (I can see responses in the archive). Anthony -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic Windows-f

Re: Nothing from list for two days

2004-12-25 Thread Robert Vangel
I had this a while ago, and realised it was the DNSBL hosts I had configured got murphy.debian.org into their lists. From your email address, you may run your own mail server. Check the logs if possible and see if this is the case. Anthony Campbell wrote: For the last 2-3 days I've stopped gett

Re: Nothing from list for two days

2004-12-25 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 25 Dec 2004, Robert Vangel wrote: > I had this a while ago, and realised it was the DNSBL hosts I had > configured got murphy.debian.org into their lists. > > From your email address, you may run your own mail server. Check the > logs if possible and see if this is the case. > > Anthony Camp

resolvconf + pdnsd on a laptop

2004-12-25 Thread James Leifer
Hello (and happy holidays!), I had a question about setting up dns caching on my laptop running sarge. I'm sure this has been discussed before but googling hasn't turned up any clear explanations. I've RTFM'd and was confused by the myriad of options. Thus, I'd be grateful for any advice. Like

Re: PPP ip-up and firestarter

2004-12-25 Thread Jedi Knight
--- Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jedi Knight([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is > reported to have said: > > Hello, > > > > I'm using debian and use ppp to dial to my ISP. I > > wanted to start firestarter whenever my connection > is > > up and stop it whenever my connection goes down. > > Firesta

USB cardreader

2004-12-25 Thread jeff elkins
Merry Christmas, List! I've built a new sid-based system (kernel 2.6.9) and I'm having a bit of trouble with the attached usb cardreader. It's recognized at boot: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Vendor: DMI Model: Mult

Re: USB cardreader

2004-12-25 Thread Hanspeter Kunz
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 09:06 -0500, jeff elkins wrote: > Merry Christmas, List! > > I've built a new sid-based system (kernel 2.6.9) and I'm having a bit of > trouble with the attached usb cardreader. > > It's recognized at boot: > > usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 > scsi0 : S

Re: evolution 2.0 broken on sarge

2004-12-25 Thread John Foster
On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:44 am, Lou Ruppert wrote: > Ignoring the irony of asking people to email about whether their email > has died, has anyone had any problems like the following?: > > When I updated my Sarge apt packages last night, upgrading from > evolution 1.x to 2.x, the conversion

Re: {advocay] Linspire machine

2004-12-25 Thread stan
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 12:29:24AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 00:01 -0500, stan wrote: > > I bought a machine with Linspire preloaded on it today. Nice machien, > > and cheaper than I could build it. A bit short on RAM, and the CD is a > > reader only (no CD writer or DVD). B

Re: {advocay] Linspire machine

2004-12-25 Thread stan
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 05:31:17PM +0800, Katipo wrote: > stan wrote: > > > I bought a machine with Linspire preloaded on it today. Nice machien, > > and cheaper than I could build it. A bit short on RAM, and the CD is > > a reader only (no CD writer or DVD). But great value for the $299. > > > >

Re: Nothing from list for two days -SOLVED

2004-12-25 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 25 Dec 2004, Robert Vangel wrote: > I had this a while ago, and realised it was the DNSBL hosts I had > configured got murphy.debian.org into their lists. > > From your email address, you may run your own mail server. Check the > logs if possible and see if this is the case. > > Anthony Camp

Re: USB cardreader

2004-12-25 Thread jeff elkins
On Saturday 25 December 2004 9:18 am, Hanspeter Kunz wrote: > On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 09:06 -0500, jeff elkins wrote: > > Merry Christmas, List! > > > > I've built a new sid-based system (kernel 2.6.9) and I'm having a bit of > > trouble with the attached usb cardreader. > > > > It's recognized at bo

Re: PPP ip-up and firestarter

2004-12-25 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 06:04:01AM -0800, Jedi Knight wrote: > Anyway, whenever I get connected to my ISP, I get the > message that the ip-up script has started and a little > while later, that it has finished. However, If I check > iptables -L, there's no rules at all. For starters, I'd change /e

Re: alsa mismatch with new kernel-image

2004-12-25 Thread Thomas Hood
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:50:11 +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote: > Hi Debianers, > I recently did an upgrade of the sarge kernel image from 2.4.27-2 to > 2.4.27-6. All went well except for my alsa which is now out of sink. This is known kernel bug #284356. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Nothing from list for two days -SOLVED

2004-12-25 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 02:52:17PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > I decided to unsubscribe and subscribe again to see if it would help. I > then found that I had some how become unsubscribed without my knowledge, > so I subscribed and am now getting mail from the list again. No idea how > that co

Re: Nothing from list for two days -SOLVED

2004-12-25 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 26 Dec 2004, Sam Watkins wrote: > On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 02:52:17PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > I decided to unsubscribe and subscribe again to see if it would help. I > > then found that I had some how become unsubscribed without my knowledge, > > so I subscribed and am now getting mail

Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Bob Alexander
Background considerations, question follows: When I was studying as a doctor (a lng time ago) my Pharmacology professor told us: "A good doctor is never the first to use a new medicine and never the last to abandon an old one" and later on my sailplane instructor told me: "There are old pil

Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread alireza faryar
I installed fvwm on debian.testing using apt-get install fvwm. When I run fvwm, it complains that can't open display. What am I missing, Thanks farid __ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 16:48 +0100, Bob Alexander wrote: --snip-- > While I love using sid because of the very current releases and I am > willing to take the risk of having to debug "some" problems, being the > system I WORK with the only I have, getting fundamental things wrong can > seriously

Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread Bob Alexander
alireza faryar wrote: I installed fvwm on debian.testing using apt-get install fvwm. When I run fvwm, it complains that can't open display. What am I missing, Thanks farid Are you running that from xdm or gdm or what ? Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: USB cardreader

2004-12-25 Thread Hanspeter Kunz
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 10:08 -0500, jeff elkins wrote: > On Saturday 25 December 2004 9:18 am, Hanspeter Kunz wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 09:06 -0500, jeff elkins wrote: > > > Merry Christmas, List! > > > > > > I've built a new sid-based system (kernel 2.6.9) and I'm having a bit of > > > troub

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Bob Alexander wrote: Background considerations, question follows: When I was studying as a doctor (a lng time ago) my Pharmacology professor told us: "A good doctor is never the first to use a new medicine and never the last to abandon an old one" and later on my sailplane instructor told m

Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
alireza faryar wrote: I installed fvwm on debian.testing using apt-get install fvwm. When I run fvwm, it complains that can't open display. What am I missing, Be more specific: how do you run fvwm? You have it set as the default window-manager and start gdm or xdm? Or how do you do it? H Thanks

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Rob Bochan
On Saturday 25 December 2004 10:48 am, Bob Alexander wrote: > Is there an automatic way to check even only for the number of severe > bugs for a package from any of the package manager frontends ? Install the apt-listbugs package. -- ...Rob Return address is obfuscated. You can reach me via my

Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 08:02:48AM -0800, alireza faryar wrote: > When I run fvwm, it complains that can't open display. > What am I missing, X !! You can't run fvwm from the Linux console, you have to start X first, and then fvwm. There are several ways to make sure fvwm gets run automatically

Re: incremental backups howto?

2004-12-25 Thread Steve Block
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 11:40:10PM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > Joao Clemente wrote: > > > In the latest thread about "Synchronize two servers" it was > > talked about incremental backups. Well, can you quick-start me > > in this topic? > > An incremental backup is done by backing up all files that

Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-25 Thread René Seindal
Matt Perry wrote (25-12-2004 08:46): On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, Ron Johnson wrote: Is usbfs in your /etc/fstab? $ cat /etc/mtab | grep usbfs usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 I just found an old firewire card that I had laying around and tried that. The enclosure has firewire so I figured it'd be worth

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Bob Alexander
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Or you could use William Ballard's system of keeping the upgrades separate by differently labeled .deb directories and simply reverting to a set of .debs that worked if you run into problems. He has posted his scripts to this list at least twice that I know of. Sounds nice

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Bob Alexander
Rob Bochan wrote: On Saturday 25 December 2004 10:48 am, Bob Alexander wrote: Is there an automatic way to check even only for the number of severe bugs for a package from any of the package manager frontends ? Install the apt-listbugs package. Sounds GREAT. Tried reading or finding examples on G

Re: Article about apt-build

2004-12-25 Thread Chasecreek Systemhouse
OK :-) I have played with it a bit and find it will not download things like openoffice.org or gnome-core Maybe Im mis-understanding the configuration or the intent of apt-build? I know openoffice.org is a source package available via apt-get source|build-dep etc... ??? -- WC -Sx- Jones http:/

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Rob Bochan
On Saturday 25 December 2004 12:45 pm, Bob Alexander wrote: > It will warn of critical bugs pending on each of the files to be > downloaded. > > Is that it ? According to http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/apt-listbugs "apt-listbugs is a tool which retrieves bug reports from the Debian Bu

Re: resolvconf + pdnsd on a laptop

2004-12-25 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:10:07 +0100, James Leifer wrote: > Now I want to use pdnsd to cache dns queries. To do this, I need to > > * keep my /etc/resolv.conf constant (nameserver 127.0.0.1); > > * and get resolvconf to push changes directly to pdnsd (by calling > pdnsd-ctl). Resolvconf works

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Bob Alexander
Rob Bochan wrote: I use it myself on my laptop that runs Sid, which I use for my business, to check to see if there's anything major I need to know before I upgrade anything. It runs automatically whenever I run apt-get upgrade. It's saved my butt more than once. Thank you very much Rob. Of cou

Re: Article about apt-build

2004-12-25 Thread Chasecreek Systemhouse
=) Well, not to follow up to my own post but ... something as simple as apt-build install top doesnt work. I guess I have no idea what I'm going to use apt-build for - or maybe I'm just so accustomed to building/installing everything into /usr/local/ (I mean I compile software for Solaris, Debian

Re: resolvconf + pdnsd on a laptop

2004-12-25 Thread James Leifer
Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Resolvconf works properly with pdnsd out of the box, although not exactly > as you just described. Just install both packages and they will work > together. Perfect. Thanks for the detailed response! Warm regards, -James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread kurtz
Bob Alexander escribe: > Is that it ? Is that it. However, it's useful to have one's system wholy fu***d down at least once in one's live, just to know what sid's really about. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gimp: Bug in Print dialog with some PPD files

2004-12-25 Thread Mike Mestnik
--- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "M Mestnik) (Shared Account" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Fri, Dec 24, 2004: > Maby telling CUPS you would like to use foomatic-rip as an input filter you > will then get the features in gimp to work, as the PPD your using is made > for foomatic not CUPS. Foomat

Missing character set "ISO8859-1"

2004-12-25 Thread Bayrouni
Hello all, When I execute graphical program under kde in command line, I have this warning: ( Missing character set "ISO8859-1". ) How can I fixe this? Thank you very much Bayrouni -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Article about apt-build

2004-12-25 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 25 December 2004 20:45, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: --cut-- > :) Overall I like apt-build and will prolly enjoy it more as I get > > more away from using /usr/local and trying to stay within Debians > main-stream system configuration... You can also try sbuild, apt-src, pbuilder and

Re: USB cardreader

2004-12-25 Thread jeff elkins
On Saturday 25 December 2004 11:35 am, Hanspeter Kunz wrote: > On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 10:08 -0500, jeff elkins wrote: > > On Saturday 25 December 2004 9:18 am, Hanspeter Kunz wrote: > > > On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 09:06 -0500, jeff elkins wrote: > > > > Merry Christmas, List! > > > > > > > > I've built

Re: USB cardreader

2004-12-25 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _jeff elkins_, on 25/12/04 09:06,typed: Merry Christmas, List! I've built a new sid-based system (kernel 2.6.9) and I'm having a bit of trouble with the attached usb cardreader. It's recognized at boot: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB

Ssarge Upgrade-Lilo: FATAL

2004-12-25 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
Have installed and removed Kernel-Image-2.6.8-1-686 several times to get around a lilo fatal error. I see either: Fatal: Default image doesn't exist, when I use my old lilo.conf for v.2.4.18-bf2.4 and I've now lost boot-menu.b. Or when using the new image I see: FATAL: vmlinux doesn't exi

Ugly sarge upgrade -- kernel 2.4.27-2 > 2.4.27-6

2004-12-25 Thread Michael Murphy
After upgrading, the computer ran so slowly that it was as if I were trying to run on a '486. On boot, the lines *crawled* up the screen in shifting waves. Also, the soundcard couldn't be found and alsa didn't load. I restored the previous version from the snapshots archive and all has returned

Re: Using Debian as an Access Point?

2004-12-25 Thread Frederik Dannemare
On Thursday 23 December 2004 05:45, Bruce Park wrote: > > At Sat, 18 Dec 2004 04:03:30 +0100, Frederik Dannemare wrote: > >>On Friday 17 December 2004 15:10, Bruce Park wrote: > >>>Hey guys, > >>> > >>>Is there anyway to use Debian as an access point? > >> > >>Yes, it's certainly possible. Get a ca

Re: Using Debian as an Access Point?

2004-12-25 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, Frederik Dannemare wrote: > > Now, can anyone recommend a card that will work in Linux? ... > > Furthermore, the link only shows WEP encryption. I want to be able to > > do WPA. Is this possible using a Debian machine? see the list of supported hardware for each driver h

Re: USB cardreader

2004-12-25 Thread jeff elkins
On Saturday 25 December 2004 3:19 pm, H. S. wrote: > Apparently, _jeff elkins_, on 25/12/04 09:06,typed: > > Merry Christmas, List! > > > > I've built a new sid-based system (kernel 2.6.9) and I'm having a bit of > > trouble with the attached usb cardreader. > > > > It's recognized at boot: > > > >

Re: Using Debian as an Access Point?

2004-12-25 Thread Frederik Dannemare
On Saturday 25 December 2004 21:48, Bruce Park wrote: > Frederik Dannemare wrote: > > On Thursday 23 December 2004 05:45, Bruce Park wrote: > >>>At Sat, 18 Dec 2004 04:03:30 +0100, Frederik Dannemare wrote: > On Friday 17 December 2004 15:10, Bruce Park wrote: > >Hey guys, > > > >Is

cannot install kernel images anymore

2004-12-25 Thread Dan Leitner
Two recent attempts to install kernel images failed. My stock backup kernel failed to upgrade yesterday. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=287085 and now trying to add another as a backup also failed, but for different reasons??? In both cases the initrd image could not be create

Re: Using Debian as an Access Point?

2004-12-25 Thread Frederik Dannemare
On Saturday 25 December 2004 22:02, Alvin Oga wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, Frederik Dannemare wrote: > > > Now, can anyone recommend a card that will work in Linux? > > ... > > > > Furthermore, the link only shows WEP encryption. I want to be > > > able to do WPA. Is this possible using a Debian m

Fwd: Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread alireza faryar
I am trying to run it from the console. Will appreciate info on how to get fvwm up and running. farid --- Bob Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:36:42 +0100 > From: Bob Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Startinf fvwm >

Re: Fwd: Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread Dani Belz
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:57:55 -0800 (PST) alireza faryar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to run it from the console. Will > appreciate info on how to get fvwm up and running. > > farid Hi Farid, you first need to start an X server. Put the following line into your ~/.xinitrc: exec fvwm

Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread alireza faryar
Dani, There must be something with my X setup! I can not find xrdb, xstart, xinit, etc. /usr/bin/X11 in my PATH, points to ../X11R6/bin, which does not seem to be there. Any idea? Thansk for helping, Farid --- Dani Belz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 23:06:41 +0100 > Fro

Re: Fwd: Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread cfk
Gentlemen: I started over with Sarge this morning a bit more slowly. As I get things setup one at a time, I see some missing packages. At this time, I am setting up kdevelop. The first thing that happens is that the terminal displays a myriad of nags aobut missing icon

oops, I broke something :)

2004-12-25 Thread dorn hetzel
I installed GCC 3.4.3 to fix problems compiling some software, and then got into conflicts with different versions of the C libraries (or at least that's what I think went wrong). Then I removed some older library versions and now I have broken something :) When I use the man command, for examp

Debian on SATA HD

2004-12-25 Thread roy
I'm going to buy a SATA HD dedicated for Debian (out of IDE connections and the HD's are always full). I've never installed Debian (or linux) before, just wanted to make sure this is going to work (as for as the HD's concerned)... Has anyone done this before or can confirm SATA should not be a pr

Re: Debian on SATA HD

2004-12-25 Thread dorn hetzel
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 12:31:49AM +0200, roy wrote: > > I'm going to buy a SATA HD dedicated for Debian (out of IDE connections and > the HD's are always full). > > I've never installed Debian (or linux) before, just wanted to make sure this > is going to work (as for as the HD's concerned)... >

Debian on SATA HD

2004-12-25 Thread roy
I'm going to buy a SATA HD dedicated for Debian (out of IDE connections and the HD's are always full). I've never installed Debian (or linux) before, just wanted to make sure this is going to work (as for as the HD's concerned)... Has anyone done this before or can confirm SATA should not be a pr

Re: oops, I broke something :)

2004-12-25 Thread dorn hetzel
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 05:29:41PM -0500, dorn hetzel wrote: > > I installed GCC 3.4.3 to fix problems compiling > some software, and then got into conflicts with > different versions of the C libraries (or at > least that's what I think went wrong). Then I > removed some older library versions

Re: oops, I broke something :)

2004-12-25 Thread Michael Marsh
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:29:41 -0500, dorn hetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I installed GCC 3.4.3 to fix problems compiling > some software, and then got into conflicts with > different versions of the C libraries (or at > least that's what I think went wrong). Then I > removed some older library

Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread Michael Marsh
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:23:36 -0800 (PST), alireza faryar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There must be something with my X setup! I can not > find xrdb, xstart, xinit, etc. > > /usr/bin/X11 in my PATH, points to ../X11R6/bin, which > does not seem to be there. Any idea? Is x-window-system-core insta

Re: Fwd: Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread Michael Marsh
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:33:41 -0800, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started over with Sarge this morning a bit more slowly. As I get > things > setup one at a time, I see some missing packages. > > At this time, I am setting up kdevelop. The first thing that happens > is that

Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Ed Sutherland
Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to imply, a Linux-bashing question. I'm considering moving from Windows XP to some form of Linux, most likely debian. I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality I'll lose when moving from Windows to debian. For instance, poin

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _Ed Sutherland_, on 25/12/04 18:40,typed: Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to imply, a Linux-bashing question. I'm considering moving from Windows XP to some form of Linux, most likely debian. I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality I'll lose

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Ed Sutherland wrote: Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to imply, a Linux-bashing question. I'm considering moving from Windows XP to some form of Linux, most likely debian. I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality I'll lose when moving from Windows to debian. F

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Joey Hess
Bob Alexander wrote: > One solution for the "fundamental packages" (please do not call me > coward but only cautious) would be, (like the medicine example on top) > to wait a little time (say one week ten days) before installing any new > packages and before that checking if/which serious bugs h

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Rob Bochan
On Saturday 25 December 2004 06:40 pm, Ed Sutherland wrote: > Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to > imply, a Linux-bashing question. Nah, not taken as bashing in any way. It's an honest question if you don't know anything about it. > I'm considering moving from Wi

Using the us_intl keyboard (was: Re: umlauts once again :))

2004-12-25 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 26 2004, peter plessas wrote: > I have an US keyboard, how can i type umlauts such as: "ü ö ä"? Configure your keyboard as having layout us_intl and you should type those things as "+u. The only problem with us_intl as I see it is that if you type, say, ~ and then want to type / (like in t

Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 26 2004, Sam Watkins wrote: > I do it the second way (more or less). If you start X with "startx" you > need to call the script ~/.xinitrc, if you use a display manager (gdm, > xdm or kdm) you need to call it ~/.xsession I usually start X with "startx" (I don't like to use display managers

Fw: resolv.conf

2004-12-25 Thread Endianto
Dear List, I am sorry, I have to resend this message. There was a missleading misstype. Regards, Endianto - Original Message - From: "Endianto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:35 AM Subject: resolv.conf > Dear List Member, > > I just configured my ppp. >

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 25 2004, Bob Alexander wrote: > Of course you should not "trust" packages which have just appeared since > they will most probably never have crit bugs. Correct ? For instance the > LVM2 and HAL examples I was making appeared a few hours agon on the > mirror I use. Just hang on a second!

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Curt Howland
Ed, First, just like you had a "first", I've been using Linux since 1995. I view/listen all kinds of multimedia, but don't expect to get entirely away from the megahertz requirements. While Linux is much more resource friendly than Windows, movies still require at least 800MHz to be viewable

Re: Debian on SATA HD

2004-12-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004, roy wrote: > I've never installed Debian (or linux) before, just wanted to make sure this > is going to work (as for as the HD's concerned)... > Has anyone done this before or can confirm SATA should not be a problem? It will work. But you will need the correct kernel for what

Re: Debian on SATA HD

2004-12-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, dorn hetzel wrote: > I wound up using a PATA boot disk and just use the 4 SATA > disks after booting. When I have more time, I do hear it's There's no need for that. As soon as you can get a kernel that suports SATA right to execute on system startup, you need no PATA disks a

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-25 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 25 2004, kurtz wrote: > However, it's useful to have one's system wholy fu***d down at least once > in one's live, just to know what sid's really about. Yes, that is a good lesson. The hard way to learn, but also a good way to see if you can get your act together when big troubles come haun

Debian vs. Fedora on Laptops

2004-12-25 Thread Ryan D'Baisse
I am looking to move from FC2 to Debian, but have questions... 1. I am still a Linux newbie. Most of the install issues, both with the OS and with applications, have been taken care of for me with the slick install wizard and the RPM-based installations. How much of a learning curve would one be

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 18:40 -0500, Ed Sutherland wrote: > Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to > imply, a Linux-bashing question. > > I'm considering moving from Windows XP to some form of Linux, most > likely debian. I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 20:33 -0500, Curt Howland wrote: [snip] > There is no functionality of Windows that is not equaled or bettered > in Debian Linux. The trick is to stop looking to the "kernel" for As someone who's been using Linux since 2000, and who's wife also exclusively uses it, I must a

Re: Debian on SATA HD

2004-12-25 Thread dorn hetzel
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 11:52:57PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, dorn hetzel wrote: > > I wound up using a PATA boot disk and just use the 4 SATA > > disks after booting. When I have more time, I do hear it's > > There's no need for that. As soon as you can get

Re: Article about apt-build

2004-12-25 Thread Chasecreek Systemhouse
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:42:14 +0200, George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can also try sbuild, apt-src, pbuilder and apt-fu (still unofficial) from > deb & deb-src http://des.petta-tech.bogomips.org/~eric/apt-fu/ ./ Wasn't it Larry Wall who said "Do we need 10 ways to do something?" Al

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 25 December 2004 3:40 pm, Ed Sutherland wrote: > I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality I'll lose when moving > from Windows to debian. For instance, point-and-click ease-of-use in > installing applications. You don't have that with Windows, though you'll gain it in Debia

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 25 December 2004 4:39 pm, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > As far as installing applications, with programs like synaptic (GUI > point-and-click) and aptitude (console-based, but still very easy to > use) it is simply a matter of choosing your new application, and > telling it to go. I would l

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 25 December 2004 6:23 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > There *are* ways to do GUI install, but not all s/w can be installed > point-and-click, and some s/w needs the command line to start, and > then does point-and-click for the rest of the installation. This is a nonissue. kpackage spawns a

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 25 December 2004 6:33 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 20:33 -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > [snip] > > There is no functionality of Windows that is not equaled or bettered > > in Debian Linux. The trick is to stop looking to the "kernel" for > > As someone who's been usin

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Brian Pack
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 19:04 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 25 December 2004 3:40 pm, Ed Sutherland wrote: > > Another example: multimedia, > > such as playing MP3 audio files or downloading pictures from my > > digital camera. > > Not sure about the camera, but media of almost every

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Curt Howland
Ron Johnson wrote: > As someone who's been using Linux since 2000, and who's wife also > exclusively uses it, I must ask you, "Are you smoking crack?" No. Care to tell me why you think I'm smoking crack because I think that anything Windows does Debian Linux does as well or better? Curt- -- S

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
English isn't read in random order, so please don't quote that way. http://ursine.dyndns.org/Top_Posting On Saturday 25 December 2004 7:20 pm, Ed Sutherland wrote: > Actually, I rarely "drive to the store" for software, but order online > and the FedEx guy (or gal) brings it to my door. So far (

Mass-tagging MP3 files (was: Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?)

2004-12-25 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 25 2004, Brian Pack wrote: > With Musicmatch I can right click on a song, select super tagging/lookup > tags, and it will go onto the net and find the correct information for > the song. While not as advanced as what you described, when I download some MP3 file from the Internet and it is n

Re: Startinf fvwm

2004-12-25 Thread Sam Watkins
On Dec 26 2004, Sam Watkins wrote: > I do it the second way (more or less). If you start X with "startx" you > need to call the script ~/.xinitrc, if you use a display manager (gdm, > xdm or kdm) you need to call it ~/.xsession On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 11:09:27PM -0200, Rog?rio Brito wrote: > I us

Re: oops, I broke something :)

2004-12-25 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 05:29:41PM -0500, dorn hetzel wrote: > I installed GCC 3.4.3 to fix problems compiling > some software, and then got into conflicts with > different versions of the C libraries (or at > least that's what I think went wrong). I've got both gcc-3.3.5 and gcc-3.4.4 installed

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 22:38 -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > As someone who's been using Linux since 2000, and who's wife also > > exclusively uses it, I must ask you, "Are you smoking crack?" > > No. Care to tell me why you think I'm smoking crack because I think > that anythi

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 08:33:50PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > I view/listen all kinds of multimedia, but don't expect to get > entirely away from the megahertz requirements. While Linux is much > more resource friendly than Windows, movies still require at least > 800MHz to be viewable while d

no kdm after upgrading to sarge

2004-12-25 Thread jianan
Hi, Upon closer examination of log files, the following errors were encountered. In syslog, "kdm_greet[875]: Can't open default user face. In kdm.log, "kdmcore(KIconLoader): WARNING: Icon directory /usr/share/icons/Default/group 192x192/ emblem not valid. Many more such WARNINGs for different gr

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