Re: replacement for mail command

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Dafydd Blaidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Greetings, > I switched from a system on Red Hat using Sendmail/Cyrus to a > system using Exim/uw-imapd and I'm looking for a replacement for the mail > command. Specifically, I'm looking for a command line mailer that allows > Subject: and Cc: he

Re: email signatures

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Daniel Teichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And I heard Paul Johnson exclaim: >> "Matthew Joyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Thanks everyone, and for the record I do not intend to actual use it for >> > a disclaimer which I personally find pointless, but our fundraising >> > department want

Re: multiple inputs... one computer... math teacher

2004-03-28 Thread Dave Thayer
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 09:36:01AM -0800, Wilson Morris wrote: > I envision having 32 to 36 wireless keyboards (only) on students desks, > attached to one computer, with input going into an Access or Excel file > where answers could be quickly tabulated, to immediately check for % of > correct res

problem with monitor resolution after install

2004-03-28 Thread nucFlash
I recently installed Debian on my Power Mac 9600 and have a problem starting XFree86. I'm convinced the problem is an error with the monitor resolutions but don't know how change the resolutions and frequencies X11 uses. In Yellow Dog Linux, I would use Xautoconfig to generate a default confi

Re: NIS problem

2004-03-28 Thread Alexis Huxley
> I've got a problem accessing a NIS-Server (running on Suse) with a > NIS-Client (Debian testing). > After doing a 'su - user' or simply logging in as user I get a > 'I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$'. > > My yp.conf and nsswitch.conf are the same like on the other > Suse-NIS-Clients. > In /etc/pa

sbp2 not in menuconfig

2004-03-28 Thread Adonis Amore
Hi, can't find sbp2 after I start 'make menuconfig' in 'IEEE 1394 (FireWire) support (EXPERIMENTAL)'. I use the 2.6.3 kernel. Has anyone an idea? Thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: replacement for mail command

2004-03-28 Thread Alexis Huxley
On 2004-03-28, Dafydd Blaidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > I switched from a system on Red Hat using Sendmail/Cyrus to a > system using Exim/uw-imapd and I'm looking for a replacement for the mail > command. Specifically, I'm looking for a command line mailer that allows > Subjec

Re: chkroot finds

2004-03-28 Thread David Baron
On Friday 26 March 2004 13:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Are you running multithread process with NPTL? What's that :-) ?? > It seems to be a false positive of chkrootkit. If I run chkrootkit in the -x (expert) mode, I get no LKM hits. Other incongrous warnings but not this one. -- To UNSU

Re: ut2004full installer

2004-03-28 Thread Alexis Huxley
> When I start installing ut2k4 everything goes ok. When it asked me for > the second cdrom. I cant unmount the cdrom. I cant force unmount it and What error message do you get when you try to unmount it? > any ideas? My guess is that some process is still using the device when you try to unmo

Re: A way of setting up a computer for routing *just* port 113?

2004-03-28 Thread Alexis Huxley
> Would it be possible to setup, say, my desktop machine, or any other > Debian machine, to be a router for *just* port 113? So I could forward > port 113 on the WAN to that machine, and then that machine could > automatically share port 113 with any machine on the home LAN? This > would includ

Re: Question

2004-03-28 Thread Redaktion PC-Special
Sehr geehrte Frau, sehr geehrter Herr, vielen Dank für Ihre Mail. Vorab möchten wir Ihnen ein paar wichtige Informationen zukommen lassen, welche Ihre Anfrage bereits von selbst beantworten könnten. Aus zeitlichen Gründen können keine Helpline Anfragen in der Redaktion beantwortet werden. Help

kphone

2004-03-28 Thread Thomas Pomber
Does anybody out there know how to use kphone? For instance, how do I know what my "User Part of SIP url" is, or the host part? And how do I call someone on their home phone (they say you can!)? Any help whatsoever would be appreciated. Thanks Art _

Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-28 Thread Geoff Bagley
This may be off-topic, but the very first computer programmer ever was a lady. The Countess Ada Lovelace, who wrote Babbage's software for him. Regards. Geoff. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: HTML::Mason

2004-03-28 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:38:38 -0500 Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone using this with Apache2? > I'm trying to get started with HTML::Mason and not sure if Apache2 > would give me difficulties beyond those I will have with just learning > HTML::Mason. Have a look here: http://beauco

ATI driver dependency hell

2004-03-28 Thread Nicos Gollan
After installing the ATI fglrx driver and modifying the xlibmesa-gl-dev package not to depend on a specific version of xlibmesa-gl, each time I want to dist-upgrade, a new version of xlibmesa-gl-dev is to be installed and apt wants to remove the fglrx package. How do I tell apt that it can shove x

Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-28 Thread bob parker
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 05:40, Gary wrote: > Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > Any guys have opinions? > > Why ask us men? We can't even see the ketchup in the fridge when it is > staring us in the face, and you expect us to to see /this/? Not always true. There is a fool proof way to cure us guys of cupbo

Re: Inline PGP signatures

2004-03-28 Thread Richard Hoskins
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> No. They use pppd's 'demand' option, which is easily enabled via >> pppconfig. Add fetchmail with its simple graphical configurator >> and the trivially simple to configure exim and you have arranged >> for y

Re: How to start network _after_ pcmcia drivers load?

2004-03-28 Thread Stephen Patterson
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:10:11 +0100, Brian Brazil wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 04:10:29AM -0500, Randy W. Sims wrote: >> I recently did a reinstall of Debian (3.0r1 kernel 2.4.18-686). I must >> have done something different this time as the network is trying to come >> up before the pcmcia dr

Re: kphone

2004-03-28 Thread Brian Potkin
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:24:23AM -0500, Thomas Pomber wrote: > Does anybody out there know how to use kphone? For > instance, how do I know what my "User Part of SIP url" > is, or the host part? And how do I call someone on > their home phone (they say you can!)? > > Any help whatsoever would

What e-commerce with debian ?

2004-03-28 Thread .- pavel sokol -.
Hallo, What e-commerce would you recommend to install under debian ? Greetings Pavel Sokol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The best antedepressqant

2004-03-28 Thread bristow
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Re: ATI driver dependency hell

2004-03-28 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 12:42:28PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote: > After installing the ATI fglrx driver and modifying the xlibmesa-gl-dev > package not to depend on a specific version of xlibmesa-gl, each time I > want to dist-upgrade, a new version of xlibmesa-gl-dev is to be > installed and apt wan

Messages to list

2004-03-28 Thread Michael Satterwhite
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There seems to be more spam showing up in the debian lists than I've seen in others. Does this list allow non-subscribers to post to it - or is it just that the spammers are joining mailing lists? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-

Re: problem with monitor resolution after install

2004-03-28 Thread Kent West
nucFlash wrote: I recently installed Debian on my Power Mac 9600 and have a problem starting XFree86. I'm convinced the problem is an error with the monitor resolutions but don't know how change the resolutions and frequencies X11 uses. In Yellow Dog Linux, I would use Xautoconfig to generat

Re: Problematic IPX

2004-03-28 Thread Mauricio
At 09:00 +0100 3/28/04, Hartwig Atrops wrote: Hi. On Saturday 27 March 2004 19:19, Mauricio wrote: I turn my IPX (running Debian Woody 3.0 r2). I ssh to it. All is peachy. I go do groceries. When I come back, I find out it went back to the openboot prompt. What is going on here? I stick my

Re: Inline PGP signatures

2004-03-28 Thread John Hasler
Paul Johnson writes: > Yeah, and it waits until you need to do other network activity to do so, > just spools the mail and moves on with it's day until the PPP daemon > kicks exim to send the spool and fetchmail to grab fresh mail. Unless you configure it to send mail immediately. -- John Hasler

Re: Messages to list

2004-03-28 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Michael Satterwhite (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > There seems to be more spam showing up in the debian lists than I've > seen in others. Does this list allow non-subscribers to post to it - > or is it just that the spammers are joining mailing lists? This list is open to everyone - you ca

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2004-03-28 Thread MrJac46
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Re: ut2004full installer

2004-03-28 Thread Raiz-mpx
My suggestion is to wait, because UT2004 under GNU/Linux has some serrious bugs. Especially if you look at this bug; https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1413 I know you really do not want to hear that, but it is really unplayable at the moment. My game crashes all the time and is un

Re: Messages to list

2004-03-28 Thread Lorenzo Prince
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thus spake Michael Satterwhite: # There seems to be more spam showing up in the debian lists than I've seen in # others. Does this list allow non-subscribers to post to it - or is it just # that the spammers are joining mailing lists? Non-subscriber

Re: kdm problem

2004-03-28 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 09:06:30AM -0600, Debian STX wrote: > having trouble getting kdm to be the default display manager...it always > defaults to xdm.. (using sarge)..In /etx/X11...default-display-manager > is set to kdm..still no luck..I installed gdm and that works > fine..uninstalling and

sarge qt printing prob

2004-03-28 Thread hugo vanwoerkom
Hi Debian! I have a prob that is stumping me. Installed sarge's libqt3c103-mt, which is Qt threaded version 3.2. Also installed the examples. Nothing prints. E.g example "drawdemo" has a print button, shows print menu, but does not print. Put CUPS loglevel to "debug". All it shows is "print-job

Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Hello, I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of release-critical bugs and was shocked. The RCB diagramm seems to suggest that sarge will hardly ever be released as stable. I'm asking myself what the impacts of this are? Will Debian lose a lot of users since the current stable re

removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Lorenzo Prince
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am using acpi in place of apm because it allows me to press the power button to shutdown the computer. I can easily accidentally press the power button, so it is good to have it go through the shutdown sequence or even do nothing instead of powering

Debian (Woody) [bf2.4] Default FTP Server

2004-03-28 Thread Andrew Gilberto
Hi, I've installed Debian (Woody) [bf2.4] Default, I recall that it stated it would install an FTP Server as default. Anyone know what its' details are? E.g. Package name, location of key files (e.g. config file) etc Is the default one any good? Is it secure enough? I've heard wu-ftpd isn'

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:46:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of release-critical bugs > and was shocked. The RCB diagramm seems to suggest that sarge will hardly > ever be released as stable. Don't bother trying to guess release timeline

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Jody Grafals
I think for the most part many running debian on the desktop are already using sarge or sid, and I must say I am run several servers with woody, I like it just the way it is, thank you very much. After attending linux world in New York last year I decided to try several other variants of linux

Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Lorenzo Prince (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I am using acpi in place of apm because it allows me to press the > power button to shutdown the computer. I can easily accidentally > press the power button, so it is good to have it go through the > shutdown sequence or even do nothing inst

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:25 schrieb Colin Watson: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:46:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > > I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of release-critical > > bugs and was shocked. The RCB diagramm seems to suggest that sarge will > > hardly ever be releas

Sourcing /etc/profile for gdm logins

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Galbraith
I want all logins from gdm to source /etc/profile so that I can put the java_home environment variable (and possibly others) there. How can I get all gdm user logins to pickup the settings in /etc/profile? I tried putting ". /etc/profile" in /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default and that didn't seem to

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:32 schrieb Jody Grafals: > I think for the most part many running debian on the desktop are already > using sarge or sid, and I must say I am run several servers with woody, > I like it just the way it is, thank you very much. I enjoy the stability of woody also on the

Re: Inline PGP signatures

2004-03-28 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 06:28:30PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: > Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 1) It has to be said that OE is "dialup-friendly". It only takes one > > click to dial up, send outgoing mail, receive incoming mail, and > > hang up again, all automatically, thus reducing

Re: Inline PGP signatures

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul Johnson writes: >> Yeah, and it waits until you need to do other network activity to do so, >> just spools the mail and moves on with it's day until the PPP daemon >> kicks exim to send the spool and fetchmail to grab fresh mail. > > Unless you config

Re: What e-commerce with debian ?

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ".- pavel sokol -." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What e-commerce would you recommend to install under debian ? What is an e-commerce tool, other than a buzzword? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian

Re: Messages to list

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Michael Satterwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There seems to be more spam showing up in the debian lists than I've seen in > others. Does this list allow non-subscribers to post to it - or is it just > that the spammers are joining mailing lists? Read the archives. It's an open list. And

Recognize the NTFS file system?

2004-03-28 Thread users
Does Debian "woody" recognize the NTFS file system after a regular installation? If not, what can be done so that it will? Message posted via www.linuxforums.org . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:25 schrieb Colin Watson: >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:46:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: >> > I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of release-critical >> > bugs and was shocked. The RCB diagramm seems t

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Tom Allison
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:32 schrieb Jody Grafals: I think for the most part many running debian on the desktop are already using sarge or sid, and I must say I am run several servers with woody, I like it just the way it is, thank you very much. I enjoy the stability

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 05:36:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:25 schrieb Colin Watson: > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:46:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > > > I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of > > > release-critical bugs and was shocked. T

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 05:45:29PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:32 schrieb Jody Grafals: > > I think for the most part many running debian on the desktop are already > > using sarge or sid, and I must say I am run several servers with woody, > > I like it just the w

XFree Cursor Themes

2004-03-28 Thread Simon Watson
Hi, I'm having great problems using the different themes of cursor in XFree86. I'm using the update-alternatives method to change to "whiteglass" theme - and this works to a point. When gdm loads, all is fine - but when I log into Gnome - the icons become "huge", sort of 32x32 as opposed to 24x24.

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 19:04 schrieben Sie: > [...] > You don't really run workstations directly on the internet do you? I do. > You might consider getting yourself some kind of hardware based > firewall/NAT box. Either buy an appliance, of cobble together a PC for > ip-cop or similar. Isn'

Re: Recognize the NTFS file system?

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Does Debian "woody" recognize the NTFS file system after a regular > installation? If not, what can be done so that it will? In a read-only fashion, I think. If not, it's really not hard to compile a kernel the Debian way. http://ursine.ca/cgi-bin/dwww?type=file&loca

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 19:06 schrieb Colin Watson: > [...] > The release team is likely to remove unimportant packages with > release-critical bugs once the installer is ready. When is the installer expected to be ready? > [...] Wolfgang

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Alexis Huxley
> I'm asking myself what the impacts of this are? Will Debian lose a lot of > users since the current stable release contains software which is somtimes > terrible old? What are the reasons for sarge taking so long to become > stable? Were there any such release problems with the previous rel

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 06:13:19PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 19:06 schrieb Colin Watson: > > The release team is likely to remove unimportant packages with > > release-critical bugs once the installer is ready. > > When is the installer expected to be ready? There

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. MÃrz 2004 19:07 schrieb Colin Watson: > [...] > > I fear that sarge is too unstable for my daily work, and I've heard really > > bad things about debian-installer. > > You should test it for yourself and send reports, please, rather than > going on really bad things you hear. I re

Re: ut2004full installer

2004-03-28 Thread Thomas G.
Raiz-mpx wrote: My suggestion is to wait, because UT2004 under GNU/Linux has some serrious bugs. Especially if you look at this bug; https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1413 I know you really do not want to hear that, but it is really unplayable at the moment. My game crashes all th

How to change my e-mail address

2004-03-28 Thread stoyan
Hi, Does anyone know how to change my e-mail address in this list without unsubscribing? Thanks, Stoyan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Alexis Huxley
> I am using acpi in place of apm because it allows me to press the power button > to shutdown the computer. I can easily accidentally press the power button, so > it is good to have it go through the shutdown sequence or even do nothing instead > of powering down without performing the shutdown a

Re: Some sox questions.

2004-03-28 Thread Adam Funk
On Friday 26 March 2004 14:50, Chris Metzler wrote: >> Some other WAVE files that XMMS won't play are described thus: >> RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, ITU G.711 A-law, mono 8000 Hz >> But they can be converted to usable version: >> sox foo.wav -w foo-w.wav > > Right. 8000Hz A-law and u-

getting all messages twice ?

2004-03-28 Thread J.F.Gratton
Anyone got stuck with this problem .. ? I subscribed today to this list. I received two confirmation requests, and since then I receive the same posts twice. I then unsubscribed, figuring I might have goofed in the subscription process; waited; re-suscribed and the same thing happens. Oh well :

Re: Re: important document

2004-03-28 Thread lusker
Your email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with subject "Re: important document" had an attachment named "document.zip" An automatic program has determined that this is an executable attachment. This is a common indication of a virus or worm. Your message has not been delivered. If you intended to send

Re: multiple inputs... one computer... math teacher

2004-03-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 12:34:47AM -0700, Dave Thayer wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 09:36:01AM -0800, Wilson Morris wrote: > > > I envision having 32 to 36 wireless keyboards (only) on students desks, > > attached to one computer, with input going into an Access or Excel > > file Seeing access

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 19:16 schrieb Colin Watson: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 06:13:19PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > [...] > > When is the installer expected to be ready? > > There will be a schedule posted to debian-devel-announce in the next > couple of days. Thanks for the info. > Coli

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:40 schrieb Alexis Huxley: > > I'm asking myself what the impacts of this are? Will Debian lose a lot > > of users since the current stable release contains software which is > > somtimes terrible old? What are the reasons for sarge taking so long to > > become stable?

XFree Cursor Themes

2004-03-28 Thread Simon Watson
Hi, I'm having great problems using the different themes of cursor in XFree86. I'm using the update-alternatives method to change to "whiteglass" theme - and this works to a point. When gdm loads, all is fine - but when I log into Gnome - the icons become "huge", sort of 32x32 as opposed to 24x24.

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Andy Firman
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 11:32:56AM -0500, Jody Grafals wrote: > I think for the most part many running debian on the desktop are already > using sarge or sid, and I must say I am run several servers with woody, > I like it just the way it is, thank you very much. YES exactly. I don't understand

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 19:06 schrieb Colin Watson: >> [...] > >> The release team is likely to remove unimportant packages with >> release-critical bugs once the installer is ready. > > When is the installer expected to be ready? Real Soon Now...w

Re: How to change my e-mail address

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
"stoyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know how to change my e-mail address in this list without > unsubscribing? You don't. You subscribe the new address, then unsubscribe the old. -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Travis Crump
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Were the gaps between releases ever so large as the gap between woody and sarge? Alexis Wolfgang Potato=8/14/2000, Woody=7/19/2002: Debian has three more months before it matches the last gap... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Inline PGP signatures

2004-03-28 Thread John Hasler
Paul Johnson writes: > Yeah, and it waits until you need to do other network activity to do so, > just spools the mail and moves on with it's day until the PPP daemon > kicks exim to send the spool and fetchmail to grab fresh mail. I wrote: > Unless you configure it to send mail immediately. Paul

Re: Inline PGP signatures

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul Johnson writes: >> Yeah, and it waits until you need to do other network activity to do so, >> just spools the mail and moves on with it's day until the PPP daemon >> kicks exim to send the spool and fetchmail to grab fresh mail. > > I wrote: >> Unles

Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Lorenzo Prince
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thus spake Andreas Janssen: # What exactly does "still trying to use apm" mean? Well, I am guessing that's what it's doing when it prints to the console and dmesg the following error message: apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac) a

Re: What e-commerce with debian ?

2004-03-28 Thread Shawn Lamson
On Sun, March 28 at 8:58 AM EST Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >".- pavel sokol -." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> What e-commerce would you recommend to install under debian ? > >What is an e-commerce tool, other than a buzzword? You

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Niels L. Ellegaard
Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Were the gaps between releases ever so large as the gap between woody and > sarge? Wikipedia says that the distance between Potato and Woody was somewhat similar: 3.1* -- sarge, expected in 2004 3.0 -- woody, July 19th, 2002 2.2 -- potato, Augu

DVD-R burning problems - solved! :-)

2004-03-28 Thread Jonathan Melhuish
As so often happens, I'm composing a message to the list and think of one last thing I could try which then fixes it. I thought I'd post anyway, just in case someone is Googling for a solution to the same problem! Basically on trying to burn a DVD in my Pioneer 105 on my linux box, I got the e

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 05:45:29PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Am Sonntag, 28. M?rz 2004 18:32 schrieb Jody Grafals: > > I think for the most part many running debian on the desktop are already > > using sarge or sid, and I must say I am run several servers with woody, > > I like it just the w

Re: aol voicemail

2004-03-28 Thread ChubbyBaby2010
its not fair why cant i optain voicemail???  

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 20:45 schrieb Micha Feigin: > [...] > > What about security? I'm online all the time my computer is on. Are the > > sarge versions of iptables and ssh stable enough to give me good > > security? If you have a non-Debian distribution, you may get quick > > security updat

Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Lorenzo Prince
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thus spake Alexis Huxley: # How did you remove apm? (precise commands please). apt-get --purge remove apmd # How do you know that the system is still trying to use apm? apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac) apm: overridden by ACPI

Re: removed apmd but it still seems to be there

2004-03-28 Thread Rajesh Menon
hi, i can't seem to find your previous mails on the list page, and i had deleted them from my account, so ... did you remove the apm packages? u have removed the apm argument from lilo, and since you have built it in as a module, is it still there in /etc/modutils (i'm not sure how this would make

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:46:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Hello, > > I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of release-critical bugs > and was shocked. The RCB diagramm seems to suggest that sarge will hardly > ever be released as stable. > > I'm asking myself what the im

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 08:45:52PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 05:45:29PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > > What about security? I'm online all the time my computer is on. Are the > > sarge versions of iptables and ssh stable enough to give me good security? > > If yo

Re: Inline PGP signatures [was: Re: email signatures]

2004-03-28 Thread Werner Mahr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 27. MÃrz 2004 21:19 schrieb Brad Sims: > On Saturday 27 March 2004 6:06 am, Werner Mahr wrote: > > Do I need both lines, or is one for Woody and one for Sarge? > > I /think/ one is for Woody and one is for Sarge, but as I play with Sid... >

Re: Inline PGP signatures

2004-03-28 Thread John Hasler
Paul Johnson writes: > No, however, you really are a fool if you take the net too personally. What is personal about asking if your statement was meant as a criticism of PPP? -- John Hasler You may treat this work as if it [EMAIL PROTECTED] were in the public domain. Danc

Manual pages and UTF-8

2004-03-28 Thread Per Olofsson
I'm running with an UTF-8 locale and this causes minus signs (dashes) in many manual pages to become garbled. It only seems to happen in text in the "italic" style, i.e. the ".I" macro. It also only happens to bare minus signs; if they are written as "\-", it works fine. Try, for example, "man jed"

Re: Recognize the NTFS file system?

2004-03-28 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:00:11 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Recognize the NTFS file system? > Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:01:07 -0600 (CST) > Resent-From: [EMAI

Re: Manual pages and UTF-8

2004-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 09:41:42PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: > I'm running with an UTF-8 locale and this causes minus signs (dashes) > in many manual pages to become garbled. It only seems to happen in > text in the "italic" style, i.e. the ".I" macro. It also only happens > to bare minus signs; i

Re: Inline PGP signatures

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul Johnson writes: >> No, however, you really are a fool if you take the net too personally. > > What is personal about asking if your statement was meant as a criticism of > PPP? No, no. I thought you meant I was criticizing you. No, PPP isn't a bad

Re: Manual pages and UTF-8

2004-03-28 Thread Per Olofsson
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 21:06 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > (a) Please see /usr/share/doc/groff/README.Debian; I had missed that one, but I had read a mailing list discussion about it. > (b) it shouldn't actually garble them, merely display Unicode > HYPHEN-MINUS, Yes, I know. > so what versions

Re: Manual pages and UTF-8

2004-03-28 Thread Per Olofsson
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 22:21 +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: > I also see that you consider it a bug when manual pages use "-" > instead of "\-". Not in every case of course - only when they really mean dashes and not hyphens. -- Pelle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

debfoster vs aptitude

2004-03-28 Thread Jeremy C B Nicoll
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, you can. And aptitude will treat packages the same way as > apt-get if you adjust the settings. Can you give an example of how? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: Manual pages and UTF-8

2004-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 10:25:42PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 22:21 +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: > > I also see that you consider it a bug when manual pages use "-" > > instead of "\-". > > Not in every case of course - only when they really mean dashes and > not hyphens.

Re: How to start network _after_ pcmcia drivers load?

2004-03-28 Thread Randy W. Sims
Stephen Patterson wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:10:11 +0100, Brian Brazil wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 04:10:29AM -0500, Randy W. Sims wrote: I recently did a reinstall of Debian (3.0r1 kernel 2.4.18-686). I must have done something different this time as the network is trying to come up befo

Re: How to start network _after_ pcmcia drivers load?

2004-03-28 Thread J.D. Hood
> I recently did a reinstall of Debian (3.0r1 kernel 2.4.18-686). > I must have done something different this time as the network > is trying to come up before the pcmcia driver is loaded which > is where the network card is. The first time I installed on > this laptop everything worked fine (after

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Richard Kimber
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:07:02 +0100 Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > KDE I use is a backported one and it runs quit stable, too. I fear > > that sarge is too unstable for my daily work, and I've heard really Fear not. I've been using sarge since 3.0 came out and have never had stabili

how to find dev. of fs root?

2004-03-28 Thread hugo vanwoerkom
Hi Debian! How do I find inside a script what the device is of the filesystem root? Thanks! Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Inline PGP signatures

2004-03-28 Thread Richard Hoskins
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can cope :-), by connecting/disconnecting manually. But for the > Windoze convertee, the requirement is for a clone of OE's > "Send/Receive" button. But you're setting up the machine, right? A send/receive clone is a four line bash script started by clickin

Re: How to start network _after_ pcmcia drivers load?

2004-03-28 Thread Randy W. Sims
J.D. Hood wrote: I recently did a reinstall of Debian (3.0r1 kernel 2.4.18-686). I must have done something different this time as the network is trying to come up before the pcmcia driver is loaded which is where the network card is. The first time I installed on this laptop everything worked fine

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