Re: Broken xserver-xorg in Sid

2007-04-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/17/07 07:16, cass iano wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:38:21PM -0300, cass iano wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I am running Debian Sid for a while now, and have never had any >>> troubles. Turns out that I have just upgraded t

Re: Broken xserver-xorg in Sid

2007-04-17 Thread cass iano
Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:38:21PM -0300, cass iano wrote: Hi I am running Debian Sid for a while now, and have never had any troubles. Turns out that I have just upgraded the whole of it, and xserver-xorg 7.1.0-18 fails to set up. I had 7.1.0-17 working flawlessly unt

Re: Broken xserver-xorg in Sid

2007-04-16 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:38:21PM -0300, cass iano wrote: > Hi > > I am running Debian Sid for a while now, and have never had any > troubles. Turns out that I have just upgraded the whole of it, and > xserver-xorg 7.1.0-18 fails to set up. > > I had 7.1.0-17 working flawlessly until now, but

Broken xserver-xorg in Sid

2007-04-16 Thread cass iano
Hi I am running Debian Sid for a while now, and have never had any troubles. Turns out that I have just upgraded the whole of it, and xserver-xorg 7.1.0-18 fails to set up. I had 7.1.0-17 working flawlessly until now, but I'm afraid that I am going to be X-less for a while now, since I canno

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-13 Thread Brad Sims
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 2:16 pm, Curt Howland wrote: > Good thing you had a full backup. The only thing I backup is user data > (and /etc/*) so I would have had to do a fresh rebuild. Hmm, maybe > that's not such a bad idea anyway. Flush out those obsolete libraries > and applications on the lis

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-13 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When I saw that it was going to be a doozie with "apt-get upgrade" and some packages were going to be held back, I decided to use dselect for dependency resolution. Good thing, there is a dependency error with some new library so that all (or a whol

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-12 Thread David R. Litwin
Expect for gtk.All things that use gtk (Firefox, Synaptic and Gnome itself) do not run. News: This problem is fixed with the new xserver-xorg-core update.What went wrong the first time round? And why in the world did it remove xserver-xorg in the first place so that I had to install xorg? -- —A wat

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-12 Thread David R. Litwin
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Michael M. wrote:> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:> >apt-cache policy shows that xserver-xorg and x11-common just went to> >7.0.10 today (I upgraded yesterday morning) so this is sure to generate > >a lot of mail... And here is my mail.I upgraded X to 7.0; it

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Michael M. wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >apt-cache policy shows that xserver-xorg and x11-common just went to > >7.0.10 today (I upgraded yesterday morning) so this is sure to generate > >a lot of mail... > > > > > I ran Debian Etch for some mo

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-12 Thread Michael M.
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: apt-cache policy shows that xserver-xorg and x11-common just went to 7.0.10 today (I upgraded yesterday morning) so this is sure to generate a lot of mail... I ran Debian Etch for some months, but about two weeks ago I decided to switch to Sid. This morning I re

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-12 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 11:35:03AM -0400, Rick Friedman wrote: ... > I decided to restore my system from yesterday's backup. I am up and running > normally again but am at a loss as to what is causing X to fail upon startup. > I'm hesitant to upgrade again just to see the messages that appear in

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-12 Thread Rick Friedman
On Wed April 12 2006 10:56, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 02:29:12PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > On 12 Apr 2006, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > >I just did an upgrade of X in Sid. Numerous packages were removed and > > > >installed (can't r

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 02:29:12PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 12 Apr 2006, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > Anthony Campbell wrote: > > >I just did an upgrade of X in Sid. Numerous packages were removed and > > >installed (can't remember them all). During the installation a message > > >appeared

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Apr 2006, Florian Kulzer wrote: > Anthony Campbell wrote: > >I just did an upgrade of X in Sid. Numerous packages were removed and > >installed (can't remember them all). During the installation a message > >appeared saying that the link /etc/X11/X was being redirected to > >/bin/true. No ide

Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-12 Thread Florian Kulzer
Anthony Campbell wrote: I just did an upgrade of X in Sid. Numerous packages were removed and installed (can't remember them all). During the installation a message appeared saying that the link /etc/X11/X was being redirected to /bin/true. No idea why this was done but the result was that X woul

Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link

2006-04-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
I just did an upgrade of X in Sid. Numerous packages were removed and installed (can't remember them all). During the installation a message appeared saying that the link /etc/X11/X was being redirected to /bin/true. No idea why this was done but the result was that X would no longer start. I there

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 10:18:44AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > apt-get is all I use - there's too much for me to deal with in the GUI > programs, and combined with a bunch of single-key commands, I find it > difficult. I use > > apt-get install x > apt-get remove x > apt-cache search

subtle difference between package managers (was: Re: xorg in sid)

2005-07-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 10:47:54PM -0500, Aaron Hall wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Ibrahim Mubarak wrote: > > >with all three of them at the same time (apt, aptitude, and synaptic). > >That's what I am doing now. I started off with apt-get, then I got to > >know aptitude, which adds a few nice tri

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-15 Thread Jules Dubois
On Thursday 14 July 2005 21:39, Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 01:48:38PM -0600, Jules Dubois wrote: >> Obstinate trolls lacking the ability to learn or even RTFM. > > something stupid it does is obviously a troll You certainly are a dedica

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Aaron Hall
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Ibrahim Mubarak wrote: with all three of them at the same time (apt, aptitude, and synaptic). That's what I am doing now. I started off with apt-get, then I got to know aptitude, which adds a few nice tricks, and finally went with synaptic because I tried it and like it. I s

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 05:08:01PM +0200, Roel Schroeven wrote: > Don't forget that there's more to aptitude than the full-screen > interface; you can also use it on the command line: > > aptitude install x > aptitude remove x And then you find that its dependency resolution is different

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 01:48:38PM -0600, Jules Dubois wrote: > Obstinate trolls lacking the ability to learn or even RTFM. Yes, every single person that has ever filed a bug against aptitude for something stupid it does is obviously a troll, and its maintainer is obviously a god for his Barbie-li

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 09:44:02AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Of course it's best to always use aptitude if one is going to use it at > all, but I cannot think of situations where it might be dangerous to use > plain dpkg/apt. Because aptitude by default ignores holds placed by dpkg/dselect. -

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday July 14 2005 9:36 am, Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 05:08:01PM +0200, Roel Schroeven wrote: > >Don't forget that there's more to aptitude than the full-screen > >interface; you can also use it on the command line: > > But aptitude is missing a command like "apt-get buil

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday July 14 2005 2:27 am, Paul Scott wrote: > Adam Hardy wrote: > > Paul Scott on 14/07/05 09:05, wrote: > >> It has never broken my box. apt-get (before I learned about > >> apt-listbugs) broke my box once and I upgrade packages almost > >> every day. > > > > apt-get is all I use - there'

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday July 14 2005 12:44 am, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Marc Wilson: > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:42:49PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > > > Yes, i386. aptitude here doesn't think so. I'm trying to work > > > around it. > > > > Yes, but we all know aptitude is crap, with ideas about > > dependenc

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday July 13 2005 10:21 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:42:49PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > > Yes, i386. aptitude here doesn't think so. I'm trying to work > > around it. > > Yes, but we all know aptitude is crap, with ideas about dependency > resolution different from

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Jules Dubois
On Thursday 14 July 2005 02:05, Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > Marc Wilson wrote: > >>Yes, but we all know aptitude is crap, >> > Who is this "we all?" Obstinate trolls lacking the ability to learn or even RTFM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 05:08:01PM +0200, Roel Schroeven wrote: Don't forget that there's more to aptitude than the full-screen interface; you can also use it on the command line: But aptitude is missing a command like "apt-get build-dep". With this you can install the build dependencies for a

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Roel Schroeven
Adam Hardy wrote: apt-get is all I use - there's too much for me to deal with in the GUI programs, and combined with a bunch of single-key commands, I find it difficult. I use apt-get install x apt-get remove x apt-cache search x and that's it. But I am a relative newby at the ga

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Ibrahim Mubarak
--- Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adam Hardy wrote: > > > Paul Scott on 14/07/05 09:05, wrote: > > > >>> > >>> > >> It has never broken my box. apt-get (before I learned about > >> apt-listbugs) broke my box once and I upgrade packages almost > every day. > >> > > > > apt-get is all

The latest regularly recurring flamewar topic: aptitude (was: xorg in sid)

2005-07-14 Thread Jochen Schulz
Adam Hardy: > > apt-get is all I use - there's too much for me to deal with in the GUI > programs, and combined with a bunch of single-key commands, I find it > difficult. I use > > apt-get install x > apt-get remove x > apt-cache search x Besides replacing apt-get (not apt-cache)

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:23:54 -0700 Jason Edson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/12/05, Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul Scott wrote: > > > > > Robert Vangel wrote: > > > > > >> Paul Scott wrote: > > >> > > >>> Don't I need xserver-xorg which is dependent on xserver-common > > > >>>

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Scott
Adam Hardy wrote: Paul Scott on 14/07/05 09:05, wrote: It has never broken my box. apt-get (before I learned about apt-listbugs) broke my box once and I upgrade packages almost every day. apt-get is all I use - there's too much for me to deal with in the GUI programs, Synaptic is GU

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Adam Hardy
Paul Scott on 14/07/05 09:05, wrote: with ideas about dependency resolution different from the known universe, so if you're going to use it, don't mix it with any other package management. It *will* break your box. It has never broken my box. apt-get (before I learned about apt-listbugs)

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Scott
Marc Wilson wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:42:49PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Yes, i386. aptitude here doesn't think so. I'm trying to work around it. Yes, but we all know aptitude is crap, Who is this "we all?" I started using aptitude because a number of people on this list th

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-14 Thread Jochen Schulz
Marc Wilson: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:42:49PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > > Yes, i386. aptitude here doesn't think so. I'm trying to work around it. > > Yes, but we all know aptitude is crap, with ideas about dependency > resolution different from the known universe, so if you're going to use

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-13 Thread Allan Wind
On 2005-07-13T22:21:29-0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > Yes, but we all know aptitude is crap, with ideas about dependency > resolution different from the known universe, so if you're going to use it, > don't mix it with any other package management. aptitude has worked out great for me, so I guess that

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-13 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:42:49PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > Yes, i386. aptitude here doesn't think so. I'm trying to work around it. Yes, but we all know aptitude is crap, with ideas about dependency resolution different from the known universe, so if you're going to use it, don't mix it with

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-13 Thread Lorenzo Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Scott's comments on Re: xorg in sid were as follows: # Don't I need xserver-xorg which is dependent on xserver-common > # 6.8.2.dfsg.1-1 and therefore not installable? Mine did install and it shows that the correct xserver-common

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-13 Thread Rob Bochan
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 10:31 pm, Paul Scott wrote: > I see that some xorg packages are now in sid. Are there enough packages > to switch from xfree86? Are there any problems? Installed it on a couple of laptops with no problems. Unfortunately for this machine, xorg doesn't like my Voodoo5 for

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-13 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Paul Scott wrote: I see that some xorg packages are now in sid. Are there enough packages to switch from xfree86? Are there any problems? xfree86 in all(?) Debian versions has the server isolateDevice option. I would presume(?) that the Sid Xorg version that also has, the Ubuntu Xorg has

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-13 Thread Erik Steffl
Paul Scott wrote: I see that some xorg packages are now in sid. Are there enough packages to switch from xfree86? Are there any problems? the new open gl packages remove the old ones and thus whole bunch of programs: apt-get install libglu1-xorg (or x-window-system-core wich installs li

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-12 Thread Paul Scott
Jason Edson wrote: On 7/12/05, Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Paul Scott wrote: Yes, i386. aptitude here doesn't think so. I'm trying to work around it. apt-get lets me install xserver-xorg. aptitude doesn't. I installed xorg in unstable today with synaptic and

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-12 Thread Jason Edson
On 7/12/05, Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Scott wrote: > > > Robert Vangel wrote: > > > >> Paul Scott wrote: > >> > >>> Don't I need xserver-xorg which is dependent on xserver-common > > >>> 6.8.2.dfsg.1-1 and therefore not installable? > >>> > >> > >> > >> i386? http://packages.deb

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-12 Thread Paul Scott
Paul Scott wrote: Robert Vangel wrote: Paul Scott wrote: Don't I need xserver-xorg which is dependent on xserver-common > 6.8.2.dfsg.1-1 and therefore not installable? i386? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/xserver-common version looks fine to me...? Yes, i386. aptitude here

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-12 Thread Paul Scott
Robert Vangel wrote: Paul Scott wrote: Lorenzo Taylor wrote: Paul Scott's comments on xorg in sid were as follows: # I see that some xorg packages are now in sid. Are there enough packages # to switch from xfree86? Are there any problems? My aptitude removed xfree86 and rep

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-12 Thread Robert Vangel
Paul Scott wrote: > Lorenzo Taylor wrote: > >> Paul Scott's comments on xorg in sid were as follows: >> # I see that some xorg packages are now in sid. Are there enough >> packages # to switch from xfree86? Are there any problems? >> >> My aptitude remo

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-12 Thread Paul Scott
Lorenzo Taylor wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Scott's comments on xorg in sid were as follows: # I see that some xorg packages are now in sid. Are there enough packages # to switch from xfree86? Are there any problems? My aptitude removed xfree86 and replac

Re: xorg in sid

2005-07-12 Thread Lorenzo Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Scott's comments on xorg in sid were as follows: # I see that some xorg packages are now in sid. Are there enough packages # to switch from xfree86? Are there any problems? My aptitude removed xfree86 and replaced it with xorg. I have h

xorg in sid

2005-07-12 Thread Paul Scott
I see that some xorg packages are now in sid. Are there enough packages to switch from xfree86? Are there any problems? TIA, Paul Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]