Re: Gnome to XFCE

2025-04-25 Thread David Wright
On Thu 24 Apr 2025 at 02:14:47 (-0400), Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 7:27 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 3:02 PM David Wright wrote: > > > I would assume that uninstalling the Display Manager would free up > > > the most resources, but you can probabl

Re: Gnome to XFCE

2025-04-23 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
screen weren't using up resources. I'd > > > be completely fine with logging in by startx. > > > > > > To that end, I used aptitude to install the meta-package "xfce", and > > > during installation it asked me whether I wanted to use lightdm o

Re: Gnome to XFCE

2025-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Walton
startx. > > > > To that end, I used aptitude to install the meta-package "xfce", and > > during installation it asked me whether I wanted to use lightdm or > > gdm3, and I picked lightdm. > > > > What do I need to uninstall to make gnome gone? Then, what

Re: Gnome to XFCE

2025-04-23 Thread Dan Ritter
ant it there to use if I need it. However it would be nice if the > login screen weren't using up resources. I'd be completely fine with > logging in by startx. > > To that end, I used aptitude to install the meta-package "xfce", and during > installation it asked

Gnome to XFCE

2025-04-23 Thread Eben King
er it would be nice if the login screen weren't using up resources. I'd be completely fine with logging in by startx. To that end, I used aptitude to install the meta-package "xfce", and during installation it asked me whether I wanted to use lightdm or gdm3, and I picked l

Re: Xfce run executable file in terminal

2025-04-12 Thread Eben King
On 4/10/25 05:26, Roland Mueller wrote: When starting the terminal with some command from command line one can add the -H flag to keep the terminal open. This way the window does not close after completion of the command but it cannot be used for running commands. /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal

Re: Xfce run executable file in terminal

2025-04-10 Thread Roland Mueller
klo 2.57 Eben King (e...@gmx.us) kirjoitti: > > > On 3/31/25 17:36, mick.crane wrote: > > Xfce4 > > I've loads of Perl scripts dotted about in different directories I'd > > like to select them in Thunar and run them in a terminal with a click or > > two.

Re: Xfce run executable file in terminal

2025-04-01 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-04-01 00:27, David Christensen wrote: On 3/31/25 14:36, mick.crane wrote: Xfce4 I've loads of Perl scripts dotted about in different directories I'd like to select them in Thunar and run them in a terminal with a click or two. "Open terminal here" in Xfce deskt

Re: Xfce run executable file in terminal

2025-03-31 Thread David Christensen
On 3/31/25 14:36, mick.crane wrote: Xfce4 I've loads of Perl scripts dotted about in different directories I'd like to select them in Thunar and run them in a terminal with a click or two. "Open terminal here" in Xfce desktop is very handy but still have to list the dire

Re: Xfce run executable file in terminal

2025-03-31 Thread Eben King
On 3/31/25 17:36, mick.crane wrote: Xfce4 I've loads of Perl scripts dotted about in different directories I'd like to select them in Thunar and run them in a terminal with a click or two. "Open terminal here" in Xfce desktop is very handy but still have to list the dire

Xfce run executable file in terminal

2025-03-31 Thread mick.crane
Xfce4 I've loads of Perl scripts dotted about in different directories I'd like to select them in Thunar and run them in a terminal with a click or two. "Open terminal here" in Xfce desktop is very handy but still have to list the directory contents, find the one I want an

Re: XFCE-terminal doesn't have .profile items

2025-01-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 12:10:47 -0500, Eben King wrote: > When I run xfce-terminal, I don't get the aliases defined in .profile but I > do get the ones from .bashrc. I run X as "startx" from a console login, so > somewhere along the line someone's dropping the

XFCE-terminal doesn't have .profile items

2025-01-14 Thread Eben King
When I run xfce-terminal, I don't get the aliases defined in .profile but I do get the ones from .bashrc. I run X as "startx" from a console login, so somewhere along the line someone's dropping the ball. So what's the proper fix to this? Telling xfce-terminal to spawn

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2025-01-01 Thread George at Clug
On Thursday, 02-01-2025 at 15:22 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 16:20:21 (-0500), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Monday 30 December 2024 03:34:20 pm George at Clug wrote: > > > With the popularity of XFCE, I would have expected that "network > >

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2025-01-01 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 16:20:21 (-0500), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Monday 30 December 2024 03:34:20 pm George at Clug wrote: > > With the popularity of XFCE, I would have expected that "network > > browsing in the thunar file manager" would be fully supported

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2024-12-31 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Monday 30 December 2024 03:34:20 pm George at Clug wrote: > With the popularity of XFCE, I would have expected that "network > browsing in the thunar file manager" would be fully supported by > default by now. No windows here at all, so I have no use for "windows

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2024-12-31 Thread Joe
ws/Samba shares. When I attempt to access > "Windows Network", I get the message "Failed to retrieve share list > from server..." message so I am guessing there is still something > missing in my Debian XFCE installation that would allow Nautilus to > discover Window

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2024-12-30 Thread George at Clug
On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 14:59 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 14:10:16 (+1100), George at Clug wrote: > > On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 12:12 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 07:34:20 (+1100), George at Clug wrote: > > > > > I think I found the "fuse" package was not in

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2024-12-30 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 14:10:16 (+1100), George at Clug wrote: > On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 12:12 David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 07:34:20 (+1100), George at Clug wrote: > > > I think I found the "fuse" package was not installed. Should I install > > > the fuse package? > > > # apt ins

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2024-12-30 Thread George at Clug
David, Thanks for your reply. On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 12:12 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 07:34:20 (+1100), George at Clug wrote: > > > In Debian Bookworm installations, why is gvfs-backends and gvfs-fuse > > not installed by default when installin

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2024-12-30 Thread George at Clug
mba shares. When I attempt to access "Windows Network", I get the message "Failed to retrieve share list from server..." message so I am guessing there is still something missing in my Debian XFCE installation that would allow Nautilus to discover Windows/Samba shares. Thank y

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2024-12-30 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 07:34:20 (+1100), George at Clug wrote: > In Debian Bookworm installations, why is gvfs-backends and gvfs-fuse > not installed by default when installing Debian with XFCE? Because gvfs will function without those backends, so it would be against policy to depend on

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2024-12-30 Thread Joe
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 07:34:20 +1100 George at Clug wrote: > Hi, > > > Is anyone familiar with using Thunar to access Windows shares or Samba > shares? I have found that after installing Debian Bookworm with XFCE, > that Thunar is 1) not able to display Windows shares or Samb

XFCE and Fuse

2024-12-30 Thread George at Clug
Hi, Is anyone familiar with using Thunar to access Windows shares or Samba shares? I have found that after installing Debian Bookworm with XFCE, that Thunar is 1) not able to display Windows shares or Samba shares, 2) not able to connect to connect to Windows shares or Samba shares. Does

Re: Who's the window manager's boss? [was: Firefox and XFCE]

2024-12-27 Thread Frank Jezzer
On 2024-12-27, Andy Smith wrote: >> An hallucination is a perception without an object, which is closer to >> describing the vocabulary of your conceit than my eventually erroneous shell >> scripts. > > I think the main difference though is that no one is going to mistakenly > try to put the voca

Re: Who's the window manager's boss? [was: Firefox and XFCE]

2024-12-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 04:11:48PM -, Frank Jezzer wrote: > On 2024-12-27, Andy Smith wrote: > > Not to worry; none of Frank's posts are written by a human, and some of > > them contain hallucinated shell scripts that will never work. > > An hallucination is a perception without an ob

Re: Who's the window manager's boss? [was: Firefox and XFCE]

2024-12-27 Thread Frank Jezzer
On 2024-12-27, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 12:09:23AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 04:11:49PM -, Frank Jezzer wrote: >> > In short, well-designed software empowers the user rather than >> > dictating terms, contributing to a healthier digita

Re: Who's the window manager's boss? [was: Firefox and XFCE]

2024-12-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 12:09:23AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 04:11:49PM -, Frank Jezzer wrote: > > In short, well-designed software empowers the user rather than > > dictating terms, contributing to a healthier digital ecosystem. > > I agree on most points -

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/12/2024 16:42, Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ wrote: On Thursday, 26 December 2024 00:10:47 -03 Max Nikulin wrote: You may try to search for mozilla, window manager (fvwm?), gtk bugs or discussions related to client-side decoration and rising on click. Are there other applications that use C

Who's the window manager's boss? [was: Firefox and XFCE]

2024-12-26 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 04:11:49PM -, Frank Jezzer wrote: [...] > The tension between application-driven window management and user-driven > window > management is a microcosm of broader debates about control, autonomy, and the > influence of external forces in our digital lives. [...] > I

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-26 Thread Frank Jezzer
On 2024-12-26, wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 10:17:02PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > >> The idea that your application should do its own window management >> because the user's chosen WM may differ from what you, the developer, >> wanted is utter hubris. Especially when you can't

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-26 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Thursday, 26 December 2024 00:10:47 -03 Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/12/2024 14:11, keller.st...@gmx.de wrote: > > Max Nikulin writes: > >> does switching between regular window title and > >> client-side decorations changes anything? (right click menu for > >> toolbar, "customize toolbar") > > >

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-25 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 10:17:02PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > The idea that your application should do its own window management > because the user's chosen WM may differ from what you, the developer, > wanted is utter hubris. Especially when you can't even get it to > work the way you

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 10:10:47 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/12/2024 14:11, keller.st...@gmx.de wrote: > > Max Nikulin writes: > > > > > > does switching between regular window title and > > > client-side decorations changes anything? (right click menu for > > > toolbar, "customize toolbar")

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/12/2024 14:11, keller.st...@gmx.de wrote: Max Nikulin writes: does switching between regular window title and client-side decorations changes anything? (right click menu for toolbar, "customize toolbar") That was exactly it. It fixed the unwanted raising of firefox's windows and also s

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 07:11:11 +, keller.st...@gmx.de wrote: > Max Nikulin writes: > > A shot in the dark: does switching between regular window title and > > client-side decorations changes anything? (right click menu for > > toolbar, "customize toolbar") > > And I didn't even know about t

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-24 Thread keller . steve
Max Nikulin writes: > On 17/12/2024 18:55, keller.st...@gmx.de wrote: > > I have grepped through prefs.js and haven't found anything that sounds > > related, > > A shot in the dark: does switching between regular window title and > client-side decorations changes anything? (right click menu for >

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/12/2024 18:55, keller.st...@gmx.de wrote: I have grepped through prefs.js and haven't found anything that sounds related, A shot in the dark: does switching between regular window title and client-side decorations changes anything? (right click menu for toolbar, "customize toolbar") I

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-17 Thread Mike Castle
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 4:12 AM wrote: > No, this has been from the installation of Debian 12 to this Laptop. > Before that, I had Xubuntu 20.04 (Ubuntu with XFCE) on another Laptop > that has crashed (broken mainboard). I also run Xubuntu 18.04 in a > VirtualBox on a Windows host

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-17 Thread keller . steve
so presume that this just recently started happening, and you have > tried restarting both FF and logging out/in just in case anything > wonky happened during some upgrade. No, this has been from the installation of Debian 12 to this Laptop. Before that, I had Xubuntu 20.04 (Ubuntu with XFCE) on

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-10 Thread Mike Castle
just in case anything wonky happened during some upgrade. mrc On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 3:33 AM wrote: > > I have Debian 12 with XFCE and firefox on my Laptop. The XFCE window > manager is configured such that a window is not raised when I click or > double click (select) inside it.

Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-09 Thread keller . steve
I have Debian 12 with XFCE and firefox on my Laptop. The XFCE window manager is configured such that a window is not raised when I click or double click (select) inside it. This works for all X11 windows except for firefox, which is raised when I click inside. Why is firefox's behavi

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-15 Thread David Wright
On Tue 15 Oct 2024 at 08:56:00 (+0100), Chris Green wrote: > Bala Personal wrote: > > I attempted to log in with the wrong password, and I received a > > notification that my password was incorrect. Is this when typing into a graphical screen? > However, I was able to use > > the correct passw

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-15 Thread Chris Green
Bala Personal wrote: > Hi Charles, > > I attempted to log in with the wrong password, and I received a > notification that my password was incorrect. However, I was able to use > the correct password successfully in the terminal on the same day. The > issue I'm facing is that I can't bypass th

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-15 Thread Bala Personal
enter my correct password, there's no response at all. In the meantime, I’ve started using Linux Mint, but I really need Debian with XFCE. If I could get some clarity on this issue, I’d be willing to try install and trying it in again. Do you have any insights into what might be causi

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread George at Clug
ian many times and usually use XFCE. I can only suggest you missed typed your password when you created the account. A reinstall should fix this issue. Maybe a corruption happened during the installation? A reinstall should fix this issue. I wonder what steps you chose in your installation?

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:14:09 +0530 Bala Personal wrote: > I did not get any response from any, or am i missing anything to read? If you are subscribed to the list, you should have received a reply from me. I replied to the list. List-Subscribe:

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread Bala Personal
and I recently installed Debian with XFCE using the expert installation option. The installation was successful, but I’m experiencing issues during login. When I attempt to boot in, it enters the window manager, but I get no response with my username and password, and there are no error messages

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread Bala Personal
and I recently installed Debian with XFCE using the expert installation option. The installation was successful, but I’m experiencing issues during login. When I attempt to boot in, it enters the window manager, but I get no response with my username and password, and there are no error messages

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 15:25:20 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:35:25 +0530 > Bala Personal wrote: > > On 12/10/24 09:56, Bala Personal wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I’m a moderate Linux user and I recently installed Debian with XFCE > >

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread Joe
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:35:25 +0530 Bala Personal wrote: > On 12/10/24 09:56, Bala Personal wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I’m a moderate Linux user and I recently installed Debian with XFCE > > using the expert installation option. The installation was > > succes

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-14 Thread Bala Personal
Gentle reminder for the below concern. On 12/10/24 09:56, Bala Personal wrote: Hello, I’m a moderate Linux user and I recently installed Debian with XFCE using the expert installation option. The installation was successful, but I’m experiencing issues during login. When I attempt to boot in

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 09:56:15 +0530 Bala Personal wrote: > Hello, > > I’m a moderate Linux user and I recently installed Debian with XFCE > using the expert installation option. The installation was > successful, but I’m experiencing issues during login. When I attempt > to

Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-11 Thread Bala Personal
Hello, I’m a moderate Linux user and I recently installed Debian with XFCE using the expert installation option. The installation was successful, but I’m experiencing issues during login. When I attempt to boot in, it enters the window manager, but I get no response with my username and

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/09/2024 22:04, George at Clug wrote: To get the earlier installations to discover the later installed installations, I ran grub-mkconfig I have never tried it, but my impression is that in the case of UEFI boot, rEFInd may detect installed OSes dynamically without explicit configurati

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-29 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Thanks for your report! Le 29/09/2024, George at Clug a écrit: > # grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg > https://averagelinuxuser.com/dual-boot-arch-linux-with-linux/ Alternatively, you could have used a simple 'update-grub' because: $ cat $(which update-grub) #!/bin/sh set -e exec grub-

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-28 Thread George at Clug
testing I created a KVM VM using Virt-Manager. I added up to five virtual disk drives to the VM (later I hope to add more). So far I have installed three separate Debian Bookworm installations, each with a different Desktop Environment (Gnome, XFCE, KDE). In each case (e.g. installation) I install

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-27 Thread Max Nikulin
On 27/09/2024 18:53, George at Clug wrote: 3) I am not confident that constant switching between display manager, e.g. LightDM, SLiM, XDM, GDM, SDDM, KDM, Ly will not cause issues. Besides the frustration of changing the configuration each time you want to jump into another DE. Is it really n

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-27 Thread George at Clug
ug wrote: > > > > > An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and > > > > > Debian Mate, Debian XFCE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Display managers allow to > > > > select session type before logi

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-26 Thread David Wright
Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and > > > > Debian Mate, Debian XFCE. > > > > > > > > > Display managers allow to > > > select session type before login (but some can not remember > > > per-user preferences). > > > > Using a different

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-26 Thread Joe
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 07:19:26 +1000 George at Clug wrote: > My experiences - George. > > On Wednesday, 25-09-2024 at 12:37 Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: > > > An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and > &

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/09/2024 04:19, George at Clug wrote: Grub did not find other existing Linux distributions. Found Windows, but not other linux distributions. The following has been discussed on debian-user:

boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-25 Thread George at Clug
My experiences - George. On Wednesday, 25-09-2024 at 12:37 Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: > > An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Debian > > Mate, Debian XFCE. > > What issues you have faced trying to ins

boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE (was: Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience)

2024-09-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Debian Mate, Debian XFCE. What issues you have faced trying to install multiple desktop environment to the same Debian installation? Display managers allow to select session type

Re: alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 10:34, Dan Ritter wrote: Paul Scott wrote: (Debian sid) Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? Settings -> Window Manager -> Keyboard Find "Switch window for same application". Tap "Edit" Type alt ~ Try it out. Ah, by default it&#

Re: alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul Scott wrote: > (Debian sid) > > Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? Settings -> Window Manager -> Keyboard Find "Switch window for same application". Tap "Edit" Type alt ~ Try it out. -dsr-

Re: alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 02:50, Paul Scott wrote: (Debian sid) Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? alt-tilde in XFCE does nothing, at least in my installation (XFCE 4.18) -- Driscoll's Observation: The product of the IQs of each member of a tech-support conversation

alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-02 Thread Paul Scott
(Debian sid) Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? TIA, Paul

Re: Onboard not showing up in the XFCE system tray | Partial Solution

2024-05-17 Thread Max Nikulin
--not-show-in=GNOME,GNOME-Classic:GNOME may affect XFCE.

Re: Onboard not showing up in the XFCE system tray | Partial Solution

2024-05-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 16 May 2024 14:09:33 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > Onboard is not showing up in the XFCE system tray. Bookworm as > updated. I don't see any Debian bug reports or questions on the home > page. I believe I am not running Wayland. > > Has anyone else seen this? Fix/Wo

Re: Onboard not showing up in the XFCE system tray

2024-05-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 17 May 2024 20:42:10 +0200 Geert Stappers wrote: > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 02:09:33PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > > Onboard is not showing up in the XFCE system tray. Bookworm as > > updated. I don't see any Debian bug reports or questions on the > > hom

Re: Onboard not showing up in the XFCE system tray

2024-05-17 Thread Geert Stappers
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 02:09:33PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > Onboard is not showing up in the XFCE system tray. Bookworm as updated. > I don't see any Debian bug reports or questions on the home page. > I believe I am not running Wayland. > > Has anyone else seen

Onboard not showing up in the XFCE system tray

2024-05-16 Thread Charles Curley
Onboard is not showing up in the XFCE system tray. Bookworm as updated. I don't see any Debian bug reports or questions on the home page. I believe I am not running Wayland. Has anyone else seen this? Fix/Workaround? -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-21 Thread Gareth Evans
= >> ii network-manager 1.30.6-1+deb11u1 amd64network management >> framework (daemon and userspace tools) >> ii network-manager-gnome 1.20.0-3 amd64network management >> framework (GNOME frontend) >> ii xfce4

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-20 Thread David Christensen
management framework (GNOME frontend) ii  xfce4 4.16 all  Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). I compared the problem

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-19 Thread David Christensen
On 4/19/24 00:16, Florent Rougon wrote: Another thing: did you look into ~/.xsession-errors? (Sorry if this was already mentioned and I missed it.) Please see attached copy of ~/.xsession-errors, taken immediately after system restart and login. "nm-applet" does not appear in .xsession-err

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-19 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Le 18/04/2024, David Christensen a écrit: > 2024-04-18 02:27:18 root@laalaa ~ > # df `which nm-applet` > Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/mapper/sdb3_crypt12084M 8927M 2522M 78% / Not sure this command is super-useful: % df $(which awk) F

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/18/24 09:46, Gareth Evans wrote: On Thu 18/04/2024 at 11:05, David Christensen wrote: Move aside the ~/.config/xfce4 directory: ... Restart -- screen with wallpaper alone. ... Hi David, Starting from Mate DE only and some old (bookworm) XFCE config files, if I: $ sudo apt install

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/18/24 07:28, Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/04/2024 17:05, David Christensen wrote: $ mv .config/xfce4-20240418-180045/ .config/xfce4 Restart -- back to Xfce panel with no Network Manager. Try to create a new system user and log in. Is nm-applet present? Logging in using another previously

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/18/24 05:34, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/18/24 05:27, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it doesn't have permission to execute, or the process which starts it doesn't have permission. 2024-04-18 02:24:20 root@la

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread Gareth Evans
On Thu 18/04/2024 at 11:05, David Christensen wrote: > Move aside the ~/.config/xfce4 directory: > ... > Restart -- screen with wallpaper alone. > ... Hi David, Starting from Mate DE only and some old (bookworm) XFCE config files, if I: $ sudo apt install task-xfce-desktop then

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/04/2024 17:05, David Christensen wrote: $ mv .config/xfce4-20240418-180045/ .config/xfce4 Restart -- back to Xfce panel with no Network Manager. Try to create a new system user and log in. Is nm-applet present?

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread eben
On 4/18/24 05:27, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it doesn't have permission to execute, or the process which starts it doesn't have permission. 2024-04-18 02:24:20 root@laalaa ~ #

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/24 12:07, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:41:24 -0700 David Christensen wrote: My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to find if and where any error message is reported. My instance of nm-applet does run, and I see this as part of the boot p

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
, Gareth Evans wrote: On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: ... I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). ... There is apparently a long history of nm-applet/XFCE panel-related issues (and not many great

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/24 13:56, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/17/24 15:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to find if and where any error message is reported. What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? And is its filesystem m

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: ... I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). ... What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread Gareth Evans
On Wed 17/04/2024 at 19:41, David Christensen wrote: > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:38:49 -0700 > From: David Christensen > To: Gareth Evans > > On 4/17/24 03:4

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread eben
On 4/17/24 15:37, Richmond wrote:> David Christensen writes: > >> My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to >> find if and where any error message is reported. > > What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? And is its filesystem mounted with noexec? > maybe

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread Richmond
David Christensen writes: > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:38:49 -0700 > From: David Christensen > To: Gareth Evans > > On 4/17/24 03:47, Gareth Evans wrote: >&

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:41:24 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable > to find if and where any error message is reported. My instance of nm-applet does run, and I see this as part of the boot process: root@hawk:~# journalctl -b | gr

Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread David Christensen
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 01:18:34 -0700 From: David Christensen To: Gareth Evans On 4/16/24 08:56, Gareth Evans wrote: On 16 Apr 2024, at 00:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/15/24 09

Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread David Christensen
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:38:49 -0700 From: David Christensen To: Gareth Evans On 4/17/24 03:47, Gareth Evans wrote: On Wed 17/04/2024 at 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/24

Yet another lick at Gmail and Google [was: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick]

2024-04-16 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 01:39:34PM -, Curt wrote: [...] > It would've been clearer to have advised using another mail application, > period [...] > But no harm, no foul, and all is well. The only real mystery is how > Tomas resisted getting yet another lick in against Gmail and Google, et >

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-16 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-16, John Crawley wrote: > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > that supports IMAP. > Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. >>> >>> AIUI the OP's problem was not when reading mail, but with mail >>> submission of a

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-16 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-16, Max Nikulin wrote: > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. >>> >>> AIUI the OP's problem was not when reading mail, but with mail >>> submission of attachme

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Mon 15 Apr 2024 at 18:52:33 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: > >> On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> > > >> > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > >> > that supports IMAP.

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/04/2024 01:52, Curt wrote: On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread John Crawley
On 16/04/2024 03:52, Curt wrote: On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less fore

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-15 Thread David Christensen
On 4/15/24 09:21, Gareth Evans wrote: On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: ... I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). ... Hi David, I can't speak for XFCE, but certainly for Mate there was a time

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