Re: woody debootstrap problem

2011-05-19 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
On Thu, 19 May 2011 16:58:02 +0200 Sven Joachim wrote: > Please file a bug report against debootstrap and use > version 1.0.26 from Squeeze in the meantime. > > Sven Thank you. Downgrading to version 1.0.26+squeeze1 solves my problem. Cláudio -- Whoever dies with the most toys wins. -- To

Re: woody debootstrap problem

2011-05-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-05-19 16:22 +0200, Cláudio E. Elicker wrote: > I need to build a legacy application in a Woody environment, so I am > trying to debootstrap a Woody chroot: > > # mkdir ~/woody_chroot > # debootstrap woody ~/woody_chroot http://archive.debian.org/debian > I: Retrieving Re

woody debootstrap problem

2011-05-19 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
I need to build a legacy application in a Woody environment, so I am trying to debootstrap a Woody chroot: # mkdir ~/woody_chroot # debootstrap woody ~/woody_chroot http://archive.debian.org/debian I: Retrieving Release E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-i386/Packages If I use

Woody ... Squeeze, PPP works over a null modem; was Re (2): How to use serial ports?

2011-05-13 Thread peasthope
From: peasth...@shaw.ca Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 09:57:26 -0800 > May 13 08:56:14 dalton pppd[2046]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret > (password) for it to use to do so. > > Previously, PPP would refer to /etc/passwd but seems to have forgotten that. In setting up the fresh machine I pu

Re: Anyone has the experience of upgrading Debian from woody to lenny?

2009-08-05 Thread Siggy Brentrup
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 18:10 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Kun Niu wrote: > > Somewhere on debian.org are pages on how to upgrade from Woody to Etch. So, > > I'd read them first and try it. > > What about sarge? IIRC, it was woody -> sarge -> etch -> len

Re: Anyone has the experience of upgrading Debian from woody to lenny?

2009-08-05 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kun Niu wrote: > Somewhere on debian.org are pages on how to upgrade from Woody to Etch. So, > I'd read them first and try it. What about sarge? IIRC, it was woody -> sarge -> etch -> lenny. You'd have to find a sarge arch

Re: Anyone has the experience of upgrading Debian from woody to lenny?

2009-08-05 Thread Brian
> > Yes. That's what I want. Would that be too dangerous? > > We've encountered the boot failure problem. > > But the system works fine when switching back to the old 2.4 kernel. > > > > I don't think that Debian ever supports skipping major releases, and also I > think that before moving to Etch

Re: Anyone has the experience of upgrading Debian from woody to lenny?

2009-08-05 Thread Kun Niu
r me. > > And a live cd will be a really good idea. > > Thank you for your kind reply. > > > > On 2009-08-04 22:41, Kun Niu wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > We've encountered the problem upgrading the kernel to 2.6.8. > > >> Is that Etch? &

Re: Anyone has the experience of upgrading Debian from woody to lenny?

2009-08-04 Thread Siggy Brentrup
2009-08-04 22:41, Kun Niu wrote: > [snip] > > > We've encountered the problem upgrading the kernel to 2.6.8. > >> Is that Etch? > >> > > > > No. Woody provides both 2.4 kernel and 2.6 kernel. But the default is the > > 2.4 one. There's a 2

Re: Anyone has the experience of upgrading Debian from woody to lenny?

2009-08-04 Thread Kun Niu
ding the kernel to 2.6.8. >> Is that Etch? >> > > No. Woody provides both 2.4 kernel and 2.6 kernel. But the default is the > 2.4 one. There's a 2.6 verion in the branch. > Ah, I remember that now... It seems that apt-get fail to execute the update-initramfs and the

Re: Anyone has the experience of upgrading Debian from woody to lenny?

2009-08-04 Thread Ron Johnson
uld pay special attention to? Thanks for any attention and reply in advance. Are you trying to go straight from Woody to Lenny? -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Anyone has the experience of upgrading Debian from woody to lenny?

2009-08-04 Thread Kun Niu
Dear all, My debian system was installed on Sep. 2005. Now, we've decided to upgrade my present system via apt-get to the latest stable debian branch. Our kenel is 2.4.21. We've encountered the problem upgrading the kernel to 2.6.8. It seems that apt-get fail to execute the update-initramfs and the

Re: (Mishap?) upgrading from Woody to Etch

2008-06-20 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 15:13:59 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > What's the 'virtual console provided by the screen program'? Some sort of > bolt-on to ssh? "screen" is a program which allows you to run commands in "windows" even on a text console. See here for a reasonable introduction: ht

Re: (Mishap?) upgrading from Woody to Etch

2008-06-20 Thread Adam Hardy
Sven Joachim on 20/06/08 15:06, wrote: On 2008-06-20 15:58 +0200, Adam Hardy wrote: Those upgrade instructions warn: "Important! You should not upgrade using telnet, rlogin, rsh, or from an X session managed by xdm, gdm or kdm etc on the machine you are upgrading. That is because each of those

Re: (Mishap?) upgrading from Woody to Etch

2008-06-20 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-06-20 15:58 +0200, Adam Hardy wrote: > Those upgrade instructions warn: > > "Important! You should not upgrade using telnet, rlogin, rsh, or from > an X session managed by xdm, gdm or kdm etc on the machine you are > upgrading. That is because each of those services may well be > terminate

Re: (Mishap?) upgrading from Woody to Etch

2008-06-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 06:38:59AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 04:51:25AM -0700, Adam Hardy (debian) wrote: > > If I put 'sarge' in all the sources.list urls, I should be able to upgrade > > to sarge OK? Or is it too late? > > you

Re: (Mishap?) upgrading from Woody to Etch

2008-06-20 Thread Adam Hardy
Andrew Sackville-West on 20/06/08 14:38, wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 04:51:25AM -0700, Adam Hardy (debian) wrote: [snipped tales of woe regarding mixed systems] I have a 5 year-old system hosted on Xen by a hosting company, which I only use for Java and mysql - currently it's running

Re: (Mishap?) upgrading from Woody to Etch

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 04:51:25AM -0700, Adam Hardy (debian) wrote: [snipped tales of woe regarding mixed systems] > > I have a 5 year-old system hosted on Xen by a hosting company, which I only > use for Java and mysql - currently it's running Woody and being slap-dash, I > t

Re: (Mishap?) upgrading from Woody to Etch

2008-06-20 Thread Adam Hardy (debian)
>On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 07:34:22PM +0100, Chris Austin wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have had a Debian system working very well since 2003, when I installed >> it >> from the Stable system, which was Woody at the time. Recently I wanted >> to > >... snip

Re: Woody mirrors? (Postgresql 7.2 problems)

2008-06-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:07:14AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 18:53 +0200, David wrote: > > Hi list. > > > > Are there any Woody mirrors? > > http://archive.debian.org/ And the new toy: http://archive.debian.net/woody/postgresql -- Tza

Re: Woody mirrors? (Postgresql 7.2 problems)

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 18:53 +0200, David wrote: > Hi list. > > Are there any Woody mirrors? http://archive.debian.org/ -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Woody mirrors? (Postgresql 7.2 problems)

2008-06-17 Thread David
Hi list. Are there any Woody mirrors? One of our servers is still running Woody, and Postgresql 7.2 on the server has a problem. I want to simulate the problem by installing Woody on a testing box (sarge has postgresql 7.4), but I can't find any woody mirrors. Or maybe someone can suggest

Re: Mishap upgrading from Woody to Etch

2007-11-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 09.09.07 19:34, Chris Austin wrote: > I have had a Debian system working very well since 2003, when I installed it > from the Stable system, which was Woody at the time. Recently I wanted to > install the gap package, (Groups, Algorithms and Programming computer > algebra system),

Re: Mishap upgrading from Woody to Etch

2007-09-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 07:34:22PM +0100, Chris Austin wrote: > Hi, > > I have had a Debian system working very well since 2003, when I installed it > from the Stable system, which was Woody at the time. Recently I wanted to ... snipped woes of a partial upgrade ... > hit an

Mishap upgrading from Woody to Etch

2007-09-09 Thread Chris Austin
Hi, I have had a Debian system working very well since 2003, when I installed it from the Stable system, which was Woody at the time. Recently I wanted to install the gap package, (Groups, Algorithms and Programming computer algebra system), and for this I had to start upgrading packages to the

Re: cron chgrp woody

2007-06-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.06.07 15:29, Chris Robinson wrote: > I am trying to run the folloing in woody using cron so my cron (upgrade asap) > 2,12,22,32,42,52 * * * * /path to macro > &g

Re: cron chgrp woody

2007-06-12 Thread Matías Palomec
On 6/12/07, Chris Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I am trying to run the folloing in woody using cron so my cron 2,12,22,32,42,52 * * * * /path to macro #!/bin/sh # # chgrp -R nogroup /usr/local/apache2/www/foodmanagementsystems.com/gary I can not find a log. The macro does no

cron chgrp woody

2007-06-12 Thread Chris Robinson
Hi I am trying to run the folloing in woody using cron so my cron 2,12,22,32,42,52 * * * * /path to macro #!/bin/sh

Re: DST and woody

2007-03-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Tony, Am 2007-03-07 13:37:51, schrieb Tony Heal: > Does anyone know if there is a libc6 package available somewhere, for > woody, that has the new DST fix? I am trying to You need to update this by hand > update the server to sarge, but I am getting resistance from the > bos

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-12 Thread Mike McCarty
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] I have a 171 MB drive on a shelf set up as a rescue system I can plug in if needed (since I can't boot from a CD or USB) that has a strong text-only system. [snip] You almost surely can boot from a floppy disc. I recommend you to get SBM (Smart Boot Manager

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 02:01:56AM +0100, Mirko Scurk wrote: > > I'm trying to install woody on Digital Venturis 466 486DX66, 540MB HDD, > 20MB RAM, CD-ROM, S3 Turbo VGA 1MB and EtherWorks III ISA network adapter. > > The first stage of install went fine but after installing

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-04 15:04:57, schrieb pobox: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:28:45AM +0100, Peter Teunissen wrote: > > Ah, memories. I wrote my first basic program on a sinclair zx81 :-) > > It played russian roulette, sort of graphical ;-) > > LOL! > Graphics on ZX81! I remember that :) I had the HRG M

Re: DST and woody

2007-03-07 Thread Aaron Hall
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Rick Thomas wrote: > PS: Remind the boss that Woody isn't getting security updates any > more... (Or at least that will become true after Etch releases and > Sarge becomes "oldstable") Actually, Woody hasn't been recieving security updates since

Re: DST and woody

2007-03-07 Thread Ed Curtis
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, John Hasler wrote: > Tony writes: > > Does anyone know if there is a libc6 package available somewhere, for > > woody, that has the new DST fix? I am trying to update the server to > > sarge, but I am getting resistance from the boss, so I need to patch

Re: DST and woody

2007-03-07 Thread John Hasler
Tony writes: > Does anyone know if there is a libc6 package available somewhere, for > woody, that has the new DST fix? I am trying to update the server to > sarge, but I am getting resistance from the boss, so I need to patch this > server until then. Just update the zone file by ha

Re: DST and woody

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 7, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Tony Heal wrote: Does anyone know if there is a libc6 package available somewhere, for woody, that has the new DST fix? I am trying to update the server to sarge, but I am getting resistance from the boss, so I need to patch this server until then. Hi Tony

DST and woody

2007-03-07 Thread Tony Heal
Does anyone know if there is a libc6 package available somewhere, for woody, that has the new DST fix? I am trying to update the server to sarge, but I am getting resistance from the boss, so I need to patch this server until then. Thanks Tony

Re: Woody not supported?

2007-03-05 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:59:35AM -0500, Juergen Fiedler wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:46:56AM -0500, Ed Curtis wrote: > > > > I get this error when I apt-get update: > > > > Err http://ftp.debian.org woody/main Packages > > 404 Not Found > &g

Re: Woody not supported?

2007-03-05 Thread Juergen Fiedler
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:46:56AM -0500, Ed Curtis wrote: > > I get this error when I apt-get update: > > Err http://ftp.debian.org woody/main Packages > 404 Not Found > Ign http://ftp.debian.org woody/main Release > > Apparently, the repository no longer exists

Woody not supported?

2007-03-05 Thread Ed Curtis
I get this error when I apt-get update: Err http://ftp.debian.org woody/main Packages 404 Not Found Ign http://ftp.debian.org woody/main Release Apparently, the repository no longer exists? Thanks, Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-04 Thread pobox
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:28:45AM +0100, Peter Teunissen wrote: > Ah, memories. I wrote my first basic program on a sinclair zx81 :-) > It played russian roulette, sort of graphical ;-) LOL! Graphics on ZX81! I remember that :) Juraj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-03 Thread John Hasler
Juraj writes: > Z88 was computer made by Sir Clive Sinclair with Z8000 CPU. The Z88 was a portable Z80 based computer designed by Sinclair and marketed as the Cambridge Z88. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL P

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-03 Thread Peter Teunissen
On 3-mrt-2007, at 22:16, pobox wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:29:08PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-02-22 09:25:14, schrieb Mike McCarty: The Z80 was the sales name but intern it was Z8000. From my mind (maybe wrong): Z88 was computer made by Sir Clive Sinclair with Z8000 CPU.

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-03 Thread pobox
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:29:08PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-02-22 09:25:14, schrieb Mike McCarty: > The Z80 was the sales name but intern it was Z8000. >From my mind (maybe wrong): Z88 was computer made by Sir Clive Sinclair with Z8000 CPU. I do sometimes find it hard to distinguis

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 08:56 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice > No such device. > (EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Generic Mouse" > (II) UnloadModu

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
in Debian. > I'm inclined to presume the former - but if so, well, the system is > running on a kernel that was current when 'woody' was still the stable > release of debian. Did kernels of that generation even have this > driver - or am I looking at a need to upgrade

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Arlie Stephens
d dynamically and not built into the main kernel? Or is this a "driver" in some sense specific to X? I'm inclined to presume the former - but if so, well, the system is running on a kernel that was current when 'woody' was still the stable release of debian. Did kernels of th

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-02 Thread John Hasler
Michelle Konzack wrote: > The Z80 was the sales name but intern it was Z8000. Not true. The Z80 was an 8-bitter, upward-compatible with the 8080. The Z8000 was a 16-bitter, with a completely different architecture and instruction set. > Z80 => 1983 Z80 => 1976 Z8000 => 1979 -- John Hasler

Re: Z8000 (WAS Woody on 486 problem)

2007-03-02 Thread Larry Irwin
I remember the Z80 on the Altos 586 and 986 series... We ran Altos Xenix 3.0 on them... They used a Z80 for each set of 4 serial ports... But the main processor was an early x86 I think. That is the machine I learned *nix on! (it was better than MPM or Oasis (later called Theos))... (showing my

OT: Z8000 (WAS Woody on 486 problem)

2007-03-02 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-02-22 09:25:14, schrieb Mike McCarty: Sinclair ZX81 => Zylog Z80/Z8000 The Zilog Z80 is an 8 bit machine, the Z8000 is a 16 bit machine. The Z80 was the sales name but intern it was Z8000. I went and looked at the Wikipedia article about the Z8000 and I

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-02 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-02-22 09:25:14, schrieb Mike McCarty: Sinclair ZX81 => Zylog Z80/Z8000 The Zilog Z80 is an 8 bit machine, the Z8000 is a 16 bit machine. The Z80 was the sales name but intern it was Z8000. Hmm? The Z8000 was a machine I programmed for 16 years or so, and

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-02 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Hey Mike, Am 2007-02-20 14:04:27, schrieb Mike McCarty: Don't listen to him. He thinks he's the only Real Geek. I've written boot firmware for several new boards when I worked in telecomm, and he doesn't think I'm a Real Geek. HOW easy is it today to write VERY small

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/02/07 10:29, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-02-22 09:25:14, schrieb Mike McCarty: >>> Sinclair ZX81 => Zylog Z80/Z8000 >> The Zilog Z80 is an 8 bit machine, the Z8000 is a 16 bit machine. > > The Z80 was the sales name but intern it was Z800

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-22 09:30:08, schrieb Mike McCarty: > This sort of thing is already happening. Many Linux distros > claim to "keep old hardware alive", but won't run on anything > less than a Pentium with at least 32MB of RAM. I consider all Computers from 486/75 to P1/266 with 32 to 128 MByte and usefu

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-21 13:18:54, schrieb Ron Johnson: > I'm stunned that "they" still make 32MB DRAM modules. It was one of the first Modules produced, but while searchin the Net I have found on eBay only 64 MByte for 3 years or such. > Why all that horsepower to track radar signals? Analysis. My progra

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-22 09:31:43, schrieb Mike McCarty: > I don't consider anything like a Pentium to be a "small" or "old" > machine. In my life, Pentium is still premium. I have 9 HP Vectry XA5/200MMT with each of 192 to 384 MByte of memory. All of them are using 8-32 GByte HDD's and three of them 3w65xx

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-22 09:25:14, schrieb Mike McCarty: > > Sinclair ZX81 => Zylog Z80/Z8000 > > The Zilog Z80 is an 8 bit machine, the Z8000 is a 16 bit machine. The Z80 was the sales name but intern it was Z8000. The 16 bit CPU was the: > >and then Later the Zylog Z8400 (16 bit) ...long time ago. Z80

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hey Mike, Am 2007-02-20 14:04:27, schrieb Mike McCarty: > Don't listen to him. He thinks he's the only Real Geek. I've > written boot firmware for several new boards when I worked in > telecomm, and he doesn't think I'm a Real Geek. HOW easy is it today to write VERY small BIOS code to recognize

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-20 10:34:03, schrieb Ron Johnson: > On 02/20/07 10:18, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..write new bios code for old 386 irons to use todays new big ass disks > > is trivial to you? ;o) > > If you can't write your own BIOS, you aren't a Real Geek. What about Linux-BIOS? And of all, the BIOS

Re: [OT] Re: 1TB drives (was Re: Woody on 486 problem)

2007-03-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-21 13:16:04, schrieb Joshua J. Kugler: > To clarify: couldn't find any *for sale* online. > > I can find plenty of pages talking about them, just none for sale. Since the official sale is not before March 2007? :-) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadminis

Re: 1TB drives (was Re: Woody on 486 problem)

2007-03-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-21 13:13:33, schrieb Ron Johnson: > Where from? What's the model number? From my IBM Media-Server seller in Offenburg/Germany. The HDD'S are Deskstar 7K1000 in SATA. On Tuesday I have goten an E-Mail and maybe I get the Disks next week. Officialy they are sold at the end of March in

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 02 2007, Wackojacko wrote: > > Arlie Stephens wrote: > > >The complaint is that it fails to find a framebuffer, regardless of > >which answer I give to the question of whether or not to use the > >kernel's framebuffer. > > Have you tried manually editing the file? Comment out the UseFBD

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 07:56 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > The complaint is that it fails to find a framebuffer, regardless of > which answer I give to the question of whether or not to use the > kernel's framebuffer. I (stupidly) failed to save the XF86Config file > before starting, but the curren

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 07:56:27AM -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Hi All, HI [...] > > X was running after that first stage of the upgrade (to latest woody) > but would not restart once I rebooted the system. I went ahead and > upgraded to sarge anyway, figuring I might get l

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Wackojacko
Arlie Stephens wrote: The complaint is that it fails to find a framebuffer, regardless of which answer I give to the question of whether or not to use the kernel's framebuffer. Have you tried manually editing the file? Comment out the UseFBDev option below. There are two other modules not

Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Arlie Stephens
Hi All, You folks were so helpful with my last problem, I thought I'd impose on your patience once again with the next one downstream. Two nights ago I (finally) upgraded an elderly system from woody to sarge. X stopped working. Moreover, it seems to have stopped working not during the up

Re: Upgrades vs Reinstalls (was Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem)

2007-03-02 Thread Michael M.
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 23:17 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Well, I'm not exactly the world's most experienced systems > administrator - in fact, the term "incompetent amateur" is perhaps > more like it ;-) So it might be a bit more onerous for me than for > others. I've been running Etch for so

Re: Upgrades vs Reinstalls (was Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem)

2007-03-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/02/07 01:17, Arlie Stephens wrote: > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] >> Now, you've got to upgrade from Woody to Sarge and then soon >> upgrade from Sarge to Etch. That 2-step process is much slower >> an

Solved: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to > > sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot > > record - but I don't even know the

Upgrades vs Reinstalls (was Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem)

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > *sigh* You are the second person to suggest in effect never actually > > upgrading a debian system, > > We'd *never* say that. Well, what the other fellow said was that in his shop, they prefer to reinstall from scratch, a

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
>> Etch, wiping out (before, of course, saving all mods from /etc...) >> everything except /home. > > *sigh* You are the second person to suggest in effect never actually > upgrading a debian system, We'd *never* say that. >or at least never g

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
e. *sigh* You are the second person to suggest in effect never actually upgrading a debian system, or at least never going from woody to sarge. I'd be much happier is this had happened *after* etch became officially stable. There's been a lot of churn in the last month or so, and I'

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 18:22, Arlie Stephens wrote: > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > [snip] > I'll make one tonight, and try re-installing LILO. > Then I'll doubtless be on to the next problem, but it's a stage

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to > > sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot > > record - but I don't even know the

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm hoping the collective wisdom of this list can point me at the > right TFM. I'm also somewhat inclined to vent. > > The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly

sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
Hi Folks, I'm hoping the collective wisdom of this list can point me at the right TFM. I'm also somewhat inclined to vent. The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot record - but I don&

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-17 21:36:42, schrieb Mirko Scurk: > It's shame that there is not a "normal" (non e-bay) supply channel for > parts for some old architectures. Every other equipment manufacturers have > obligations to continue to produce spare parts for years after some > product have ended. Yesterday, b

Re: Install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 problem / woody should be removed from packages.d.o

2007-02-23 Thread Simon Paillard
installing Oracle9i on Debian > > This mailing list is for discussing work on the Debian web site, not > providing support, so I've copied this reply to debian-user. Was > there something on the web site that led you to believe this list was > for providing user support? Actual

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Mike McCarty writes: > > 8086 is 16 bit bus, 16 bit registers 16 bit data bus On 22.02.07 10:43, John Hasler wrote: > But with a bizarre segmentation scheme and a 20 bit address bus able to > address 1MB. similar to PAE on newer pentiums -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://w

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/22/07 22:35, Mike McCarty wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/22/07 10:43, John Hasler wrote: >> >>> Mike McCarty writes: >>> 8086 is 16 bit bus, 16 bit registers >>> >>> But with a biz

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Mike McCarty
John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: But back in the day, with the limited silicon budget, segmentation is a great way for a 16 bit system (that wants to maintain upward compatibility with the 8080/8085) to address more than 64KB. There was no upward compatibility between the 8080 and the

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/22/07 10:43, John Hasler wrote: Mike McCarty writes: 8086 is 16 bit bus, 16 bit registers But with a bizarre segmentation scheme and a 20 bit address bus able to address 1MB. But back in the day, with the limited sil

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 12:46:52PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: > > But back in the day, with the limited silicon budget, segmentation is a > > great way for a 16 bit system (that wants to maintain upward > > compatibility with the 8080/8085) to address more than 64KB. > > There

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > But back in the day, with the limited silicon budget, segmentation is a > great way for a 16 bit system (that wants to maintain upward > compatibility with the 8080/8085) to address more than 64KB. There was no upward compatibility between the 8080 and the 8086. -- John Hasl

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/22/07 09:30, Mike McCarty wrote: > Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Am 2007-02-17 22:23:25, schrieb Chris Bannister: >> >>> And I suppose when Vista has been out for a while (people wont have any >>> choice when they buy a new machine, unless they buy

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/22/07 10:43, John Hasler wrote: > Mike McCarty writes: >> 8086 is 16 bit bus, 16 bit registers > > But with a bizarre segmentation scheme and a 20 bit address bus able to > address 1MB. But back in the day, with the limited silicon budget, segm

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread John Hasler
Mike McCarty writes: > 8086 is 16 bit bus, 16 bit registers But with a bizarre segmentation scheme and a 20 bit address bus able to address 1MB. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Mike McCarty
Matthias Dryba wrote: Am Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2007 17:46 schrieb Michelle Konzack: Am 2007-02-17 11:51:56, schrieb Ron Johnson: Still, I have a old Celeron 600mhz with 16MB acting as a server running I have a P I (100mhz) with 64MB ram acting as a backupserver (tape), a P II (333mhz) with

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-02-17 22:23:25, schrieb Chris Bannister: And I suppose when Vista has been out for a while (people wont have any choice when they buy a new machine, unless they buy one without an OS) 256M or even 512M will be considered old and we'll see questions like "Will KDE

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-02-15 21:19:26, schrieb Mike McCarty: [snip] How do you have coded this on a 8085? Was it not a 8080/8086 and they are 8 Bit 8080 is 8 bit 8085 is 8 bit 8086 is 16 bit bus, 16 bit registers 8087 is numeric processor 8088 is 8 bit bus, 16 bit registers, same

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-02-15 21:19:26, schrieb Mike McCarty: Ron Johnson wrote: So, what GUI do you use? Eh? With MSDOS? No gooey stuff in there! Maybe SEAL? But there are several other DOS-Desktops including my own one which has/had a scientific background and was coded using D

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-02-16 09:57:22, schrieb Ron Johnson: I wrote... I have 16MB of RAM because that's the minimum configuration for that machine when I bought it. And, actually, I have used some of the extended RAM on occasion, with a disassembler (Sourcer) I used to run. I haven'

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-22 Thread Mirko Scurk
Celejar wrote: >> Some people are still making money utilizing old pc-s. Some car testing >> appliances are equipped with only serial connector which many current >> notebooks are missing. > > They make serial to USB converter cables / chips. There's apparently > some linux support; see > linux-s

Re: [OT] Re: 1TB drives (was Re: Woody on 486 problem)

2007-02-21 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 16:19 -0500, Larry Irwin wrote: > > On 02/21/07 14:07, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > >> On Wednesday 21 February 2007 10:13, Ron Johnson wrote: > Note: Last week I have ordered four of the first 1 TByte > Hitachi HardDisks for my 3w9500 as Backup-Server. > >>> Wher

Re: [OT] Re: 1TB drives (was Re: Woody on 486 problem)

2007-02-21 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 12:19, Larry Irwin wrote: > > On 02/21/07 14:07, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > >> On Wednesday 21 February 2007 10:13, Ron Johnson wrote: > Note: Last week I have ordered four of the first 1 TByte > Hitachi HardDisks for my 3w9500 as Backup-Server. > >>> >

Re: [OT] Re: 1TB drives (was Re: Woody on 486 problem)

2007-02-21 Thread Larry Irwin
On 02/21/07 14:07, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: On Wednesday 21 February 2007 10:13, Ron Johnson wrote: Note: Last week I have ordered four of the first 1 TByte Hitachi HardDisks for my 3w9500 as Backup-Server. Where from? What's the model number? http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/en/me

Re: [OT] Re: 1TB drives (was Re: Woody on 486 problem)

2007-02-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/21/07 14:07, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > On Wednesday 21 February 2007 10:13, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Note: Last week I have ordered four of the first 1 TByte >>> Hitachi HardDisks for my 3w9500 as Backup-Server. >> Where from? What's the mod

[OT] Re: 1TB drives (was Re: Woody on 486 problem)

2007-02-21 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 10:13, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Note: Last week I have ordered four of the first 1 TByte > > Hitachi HardDisks for my 3w9500 as Backup-Server. > > Where from? What's the model number? http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/en/menuitem.8027a91c954924ae4bda9f30eac4f

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/21/07 10:46, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-02-17 11:51:56, schrieb Ron Johnson: >>> Still, I have a old Celeron 600mhz with 16MB acting as a server running >> C600 with only 16MB??? > > I have an Athlon XP2400+ running with a PC2700/333 32 M

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-21 Thread Michael Endsley
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 04:21:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/16/07 15:55, Mike McCarty wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: > >> > > Why not install Linux and dosemu? > >>> > >>> On a machine

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