Re: [slowly OT, was: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?]

2025-03-16 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-16, wrote: > >> > Not yet, I'm in the UK and the boat is in France, I'll be back there >> > in a couple weeks. :-) >> That's the dream, man, to leisurely navigate those French canals in the >> spring or summer. Good sailing to you. > I used to cycle them, also a dream. And waved to t

[slowly OT, was: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?]

2025-03-16 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 01:33:08PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-15, Chris Green wrote: [...] > > Not yet, I'm in the UK and the boat is in France, I'll be back there > > in a couple weeks. :-) > > That's the dream, man, to leisurely navigate those French canals in the > spring or summer. Goo

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-16 Thread Greg
t day delivery) because it is reasonably high definition, it has a >> > USB-A plug to go straight into my laptop and it has the second lens on >> > the side which seemed to me a good idea when poking around under the >> > engine on the boat. >> >> And did you fi

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-15 Thread Chris Green
has a > > USB-A plug to go straight into my laptop and it has the second lens on > > the side which seemed to me a good idea when poking around under the > > engine on the boat. > > And did you find Aunt Bertie in the bilges, or was she at the local pub? > Not yet, I

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> visible for Windows. The awful part is that, > I need to run a commercial software on > the Windows system of that device, and that > commercial software frequently performs > full-disk scan 'for the sake of user security'. If at all possible, you might be better off turning the Windows part int

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-15 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Thu Mar 13 16:49:25 2025 "James H. H. Lampert" wrote: > On 3/13/25 12:15 PM, David Wright wrote: > >> OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the >> context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary". > > Why would anybody find a colonoscopy scary? > > Just geek o

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-15 Thread debian-user
Chris Green wrote: > I don't want to look at the outside of the hull, I want to look > inside right down in the bilges under the engine. This is quite > inaccessible and one of the cameras that are advertised mostly as > 'endoscopes' would make looking around down there more possible. > > As I

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-15 Thread Greg
into my laptop and it has the second lens on > the side which seemed to me a good idea when poking around under the > engine on the boat. And did you find Aunt Bertie in the bilges, or was she at the local pub? ;-)

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-15 Thread Chris Green
ne of these cameras with Debian? Actual > > > > recommendations of specific suppliers/cameras would be very > > > > welcome, eBay, Amazon, AliExpress, I'm not fussy! :-) > > > > > > In 2022 I ordered an endoscope from Newegg which failed to work wit

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-14 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Friday 14 March 2025 08:28:30 am debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Chris Green wrote: > > > I don't want to look at the outside of the hull, I want to look > > inside right down in the bilges under the engine. This is quite > > inaccessible and one of the cameras that are advertised mostly

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-14 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-13, Chris Green wrote: > > As I said before the only reason I used the word endoscope was that > it's the best way to actually get hits on the type of device I'm > after. Another search term that can work is 'inspection camera'. The only other term I've managed to discover would be "b

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-14 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-13, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Greg wrote: >> On 2025-03-13, David Wright wrote: >> > >> > OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the >> > context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary". >> >> I've never come across one for the general pub

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-14 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-13, Chris Green wrote: > Greg wrote: >> On 2025-03-13, David Wright wrote: >> > >> > OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the >> > context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary". >> >> I've never come across one for the general public, but then it

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-13 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 3/13/25 12:15 PM, David Wright wrote: OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary". Why would anybody find a colonoscopy scary? Just geek out and enjoy the guided tour! -- JHHL

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-13 Thread Chris Green
Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-13, David Wright wrote: > > > > OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the > > context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary". > > I've never come across one for the general public, but then it would > never have occurred to me to search

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-13 Thread debian-user
Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-13, David Wright wrote: > > > > OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the > > context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary". > > I've never come across one for the general public, but then it would > never have occurred to me to sear

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-13 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-13, David Wright wrote: > > OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the > context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary". I've never come across one for the general public, but then it would never have occurred to me to search for an endoscope to inspec

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-13 Thread David Wright
On Thu 13 Mar 2025 at 15:46:17 (-), Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-13, Joe wrote: > > > > It's only a webcam, and random webcams usually work. Most of the webcams I see are too bulky, probably because of their mountings and microphone spacing. > The term "endoscope" seems excessive (if not scary).

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-13 Thread Chris Green
ere's UVC support in Debian > > > (guvcview et al.) > > > > > > Can anyone confirm that I have this right? Does anyone here > > > actually use one of these cameras with Debian? Actual > > > recommendations of specific suppliers/cameras wou

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-13 Thread Chris Green
Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-13, Joe wrote: > > > > It's only a webcam, and random webcams usually work. I've recently > > The term "endoscope" seems excessive (if not scary). When searching for one to buy it's necessary as otherwise you get load

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-13 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-13, Joe wrote: > > It's only a webcam, and random webcams usually work. I've recently The term "endoscope" seems excessive (if not scary).

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones shouldwork OK?

2025-03-13 Thread gene heskett
ommendations of specific suppliers/cameras would be very welcome, eBay, Amazon, AliExpress, I'm not fussy! :-) In 2022 I ordered an endoscope from Newegg which failed to work with either Debian or Windows. I returned it without incident. It does not seem to be available from Newegg at the moment. So

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-13 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-03-12 14:26, Chris Green wrote: I want to buy one of the cheap (£2.50 to £15) USB endoscope cameras so I can poke around and see things under the engine of my little canal boat. A little bit of research suggests that most will probably work if they claim to work with a 'PC' as that impli

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-12 Thread Charles Curley
commendations of > specific suppliers/cameras would be very welcome, eBay, Amazon, > AliExpress, I'm not fussy! :-) In 2022 I ordered an endoscope from Newegg which failed to work with either Debian or Windows. I returned it without incident. It does not seem to be available from Newe

Re: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Chris Green wrote: > I want to buy one of the cheap (£2.50 to £15) USB endoscope cameras so > I can poke around and see things under the engine of my little canal > boat. > > A little bit of research suggests that most will probably work if they > claim to work with a 'PC' as that implies they us

Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

2025-03-12 Thread Chris Green
I want to buy one of the cheap (£2.50 to £15) USB endoscope cameras so I can poke around and see things under the engine of my little canal boat. A little bit of research suggests that most will probably work if they claim to work with a 'PC' as that implies they use UVC to communicate with a comp

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-11 Thread Miriami
Hi Stefan: I agree. There is a Windows VM set up in the Debian environment of that device to execute 'normal' Windows applications - just that that commercial software requires too much resources for that device to run in VM, so it gets a real system. If that device would be upgraded to be pow

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-10 Thread Max Nikulin
On 09/03/2025 15:47, Miriami wrote: About the projects I've found - I searched with three terms on GitHub - 'sqlite', 'fs' and 'fuse'. Device mapper (dm) might give some alternatives to fuse. Perhaps VeraCrypt or some other encrypted container might be used to store filesystem. Of course, it i

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
x27;t > store files for extra copies, right? I guess > the sparse file mechanism would work fine. Note that the sparse file behavior depends on the hosting filesystem, which contains your large sparse file, not on the filesystem inside that file. The ext4 inside the file will do what it does wit

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-09 Thread Miriami
qcow format could be used to provide a virtual disk which dynamically grows. However, I didn't dig into researching about it. Now I think again and changed my mind - I think qcow might work as well - but I would firstly try the ext4 image solution, which sounds simpler. About the projects I&#x

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-08 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025, Thomas Schmitt wrote: But if, instead, what you want is the backing store to grow then use a sparse file as the backing store. This idea reduces the search to filesystems which don't hop around and write without need to new random places on their storage m

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Max Nikulin wrote: > On 08/03/2025 19:31, Miriami wrote: > > Would you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem, which uses a single > > file as backing storage, and could self-growing in size? > > Qemu's qcow2 disk images may grow in size while initially they may be >

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/03/2025 19:31, Miriami wrote: Would you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem, which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing in size? Qemu's qcow2 disk images may grow in size while initially they may be smaller than size exposed to virtual machines. However l

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
mount and then mount again, whenever a new session was written. > But if, instead, what you want is the backing store to grow then use a > sparse file as the backing store. This idea reduces the search to filesystems which don't hop around and write without need to new random places on their

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-08 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025, Miriami wrote: Hi! Would you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem, which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing in size? It's like using a fuse ext4 filesystem, just that with self-growing - I tried the fuse ext4 filesystem, but it seems that

Re: Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Miriami wrote: > > Would you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem, which uses a single file as > backing storage, and could self-growing in size? > > It's like using a fuse ext4 filesystem, just that with self-growing - I tried > the fuse ext4 filesystem, but

Could you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing?

2025-03-08 Thread Miriami
Hi! Would you recommend me a mature fuse filesystem, which uses a single file as backing storage, and could self-growing in size? It's like using a fuse ext4 filesystem, just that with self-growing - I tried the fuse ext4 filesystem, but it seems that fuse ext4 filesystem requires the us

Re: Which web server is installed during Setup/Software Installation?

2025-02-20 Thread Dan Ritter
pture: <https://ibb.co/5XC3QMxh>. > > My question is, which web server is installed when selecting Web Server? Apache2. If you're going to mostly be using Spring, don't bother using the Web Server pre-select. Install the packages you actually want after the system install time. -dsr-

Re: Which web server is installed during Setup/Software Installation?

2025-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
> include Web Server. Spring typically uses Tomcat. > > > > Here is the screen capture: <https://ibb.co/5XC3QMxh>. > > > > My question is, which web server is installed when selecting Web Server? > > Apache2. > > If you're going to mostly be using Spr

Which web server is installed during Setup/Software Installation?

2025-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Everyone, I need to test a Spring app on Debain 12. I'm installing Debian 12.9. I'm at the Select Software portion of the installation. The selections include Web Server. Spring typically uses Tomcat. Here is the screen capture: <https://ibb.co/5XC3QMxh>. My question is, whi

Re: How to choose which 'printer' to install

2025-02-12 Thread David Wright
rinters to add:- > > > > > > HP LaserJet M15w (FD27B6) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > > > HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > > > HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > > > HP LaserJet M15w (HP LaserJet M14-M17) >

Re: How to choose which 'printer' to install?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
) > > HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > > HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > > HP LaserJet M15w (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > > > > So which one should I choose? Does it matter? > > See <https://wiki.debian.org/Pr

Re: How to choose which 'printer' to install?

2025-02-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
M14-M17) > HP LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > HP LaserJet M15w (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > > So which one should I choose? Does it matter? See <https://wiki.debian.org/Printing>, <https://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting> and <https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting>. Jeff

Re: How to choose which 'printer' to install?

2025-02-12 Thread Dan Purgert
LaserJet M14-M17 (driverless) (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > HP LaserJet M15w (HP LaserJet M14-M17) > > So which one should I choose? Does it matter? It might matter -- I would imagine that it's a case of "zeroconf/bonjour/avahi" duplicating the "driver-needed" and &q

How to choose which 'printer' to install?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
t M15w (HP LaserJet M14-M17) So which one should I choose? Does it matter? -- Chris Green ·

Re: which command can show info about battery of wireless keyboard

2024-12-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 05 Dec 2024 at 21:01:12 (+0800), hlyg wrote: > On 12/2/24 19:21, hlyg wrote: > > > > Thank Wright! > > > > i install inxi and run it: > > > > model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard > >  charge: 55% (should be ignored) status: discharging > > model: Logitech Wireless Mouse > >  charge: 5% (shou

Re: which command can show info about battery of wireless keyboard

2024-12-04 Thread hlyg
On 12/2/24 19:21, hlyg wrote: Thank Wright! i install inxi and run it: model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard  charge: 55% (should be ignored) status: discharging model: Logitech Wireless Mouse  charge: 5% (should be ignored) status: discharging they r unimportant after all how reliable is "c

Re: which command can show info about battery of wireless keyboard

2024-12-01 Thread hlyg
Thank Wright! i install inxi and run it: model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard  charge: 55% (should be ignored) status: discharging model: Logitech Wireless Mouse  charge: 5% (should be ignored) status: discharging they r unimportant after all

Re: which command can show info about battery of wireless keyboard

2024-12-01 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Dec 2024 at 16:02:27 (+0800), hlyg wrote: > i try some gnome live cd, it warns that my battery of wireless > keyboard is low > > my deb12 haven't gnome, which command can show that info? Here, inxi -Bx shows: Battery: Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech

Re: which command can show info about battery of wireless keyboard

2024-12-01 Thread George at Clug
device manager for Logitech's Unifying Receiver wireless peripherals. It is able to pair/unpair devices to the receiver, and for some devices to read battery status. If you are using Gnome and a Logitech Wireless keyboard, then: # apt install solaar-gnome3 George. > > my deb12 haven'

Re: which command can show info about battery of wireless keyboard

2024-12-01 Thread hlyg
Thank George! i use logitech keyboard/mouse combo, i install solaar for deb12, it can show that info without gnome actually it says mouse battery is 5%, less than keyboard battery

which command can show info about battery of wireless keyboard

2024-12-01 Thread hlyg
i try some gnome live cd, it warns that my battery of wireless keyboard is low my deb12 haven't gnome, which command can show that info?

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/04/2024 06:44 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 10/4/24 04:47, Richard Owlett wrote: On 10/03/2024 06:34 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 10/3/24 05:51, Richard Owlett wrote: Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only a one user? In my case it should be und

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-04 Thread David Christensen
On 10/4/24 04:47, Richard Owlett wrote: On 10/03/2024 06:34 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 10/3/24 05:51, Richard Owlett wrote: Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only a one user? In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . But where? It would help if y

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/03/2024 06:34 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 10/3/24 05:51, Richard Owlett wrote: Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only a one user? In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . But where? TIA It would help if you told us about the executable a

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread David Christensen
On 10/3/24 05:51, Richard Owlett wrote: Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only a one user? In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . But where? TIA It would help if you told us about the executable and the context for its use -- e.g. self-contain b

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread NNTP Surfer
Richard Owlett writes: > Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by > only a one user? I use Debian and I throw every executable in ~/.local/bin, everything just works without any additional setup.

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread Richard Owlett
anywhere /except/ in one of those two directories, so that it /won't/ be included in your PATH. Which is why I said thank you to Michael for the standards. They are going to prevent problems unrelated to this thread. Cheers, David.

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread Richard Owlett
d location". Unlike the other answers I've seen in the thread so far (which are personal anecdata), my answer provides one such, with references. Actual specifications are worth the bother >99% of the time. My actual background is primarily component level analog and was doing "

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/03/2024 08:31 AM, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 3 Oct 2024 07:51 -0500, from rowl...@access.net (Richard Owlett): Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only a one user? In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . But where? The XDG Base Directory Specific

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
dard/recommended location". Unlike the other answers I've seen in the thread so far (which are personal anecdata), my answer provides one such, with references. -- Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Oct 2024 at 08:31:08 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 10/03/2024 08:03 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > On 03/10/2024 14:51, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be > > > used by only a one user? > > > In my case it should be under /home/r

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread tomas
On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 01:31:14PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 3 Oct 2024 07:51 -0500, from rowl...@access.net (Richard Owlett): > > Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only > > a one user? > > In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . > > But where?

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Oct 2024 07:51 -0500, from rowl...@access.net (Richard Owlett): > Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only > a one user? > In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . > But where? The XDG Base Directory Specification recommends ~/.local/bin for "user-spec

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/03/2024 08:03 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello Richard, the /etc/skel/.profile add to PATH ~/bin and ~/.local/bin if they exist. On 03/10/2024 14:51, Richard Owlett wrote: Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only a one user? In my case it should be under

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread tomas
On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 09:11:39AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only > > a one user? > > In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . > > But where? > > I'd put it in ~/bin That's where mine live, too. Cheers -- t si

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/03/2024 08:11 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only a one user? In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . But where? I'd put it in ~/bin Stefan As /home/richard/bin does not exist, I assume the answer is t

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello Richard, the /etc/skel/.profile add to PATH ~/bin and ~/.local/bin if they exist. On 03/10/2024 14:51, Richard Owlett wrote: Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only a one user? In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . But where? hth, Jerome

Re: Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only > a one user? > In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . > But where? I'd put it in ~/bin Stefan

Which subdirectory for a usedr-specific executable?

2024-10-03 Thread Richard Owlett
Is there standard/recommended location for an executable to be used by only a one user? In my case it should be under /home/richard/ . But where? TIA

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 05:36:50AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > > > > > current Debian release. > > > > > >

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-29 Thread debian-user
two years, if I am to believe wikipedia. > On 08/28/2024 09:07 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > > It seems to me that you're doing your own thing in > > your own way and expecting us to accomodate that, which seems at > > least somewhat unreasonable. For background: the lsc

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-29 Thread Michael Stone
fact lscpu can help answer the question, but it's the second line ("CPU op-mode(s)") that indicates whether the CPU supports 64-bit instructions even if running on a 32 bit kernel, not the "Architecture" line. *But*, I'm not sure the op-mode line is fully determinativ

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-29 Thread Richard Owlett
d a Kim. Still have a Kaypro 10 in a back room - haven't booted in decades. On 08/28/2024 09:07 PM, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 09:10:21AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/27/2024 08:14 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for for where *Debian* d

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 09:10:21AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/27/2024 08:14 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support current Debian release. I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. Proce

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-28 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
See also Debian Reference Chapter 2. Debian package management 2.2.1. apt vs. apt-get / apt-cache vs. aptitude https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_literal_vs_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal Regards, J

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 20:32:04 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:03:02 +0200 Hans wrote: > > First, we have the oldest, whcih is apt-get. > > apt-get update, apt-get upgrade or apt-get full-upgrade does a good > > job. > > So, my question is: Which one is

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
t; loads its own list and is not using the list from apt-get (otherwise it could > not explain, why aptitude and apt-get every time reloads the new list, when > one of the other was eecuted before). Also the dependencies in both tools are > handled different. > > And at last, we have apt,

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 04:25:20AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 28/8/24 03:03, Hans wrote: > > So, my question is: Which one is recommended, when updating and upgrading is > > used in a script, so that it causes as little as possible pain? […] > apt update &&

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Bret Busby
explain, why aptitude and apt-get every time reloads the new list, when one of the other was eecuted before). Also the dependencies in both tools are handled different. And at last, we have apt, which (as far as I now), soemtimes is calling apt- get, and sometimes is calling aptitude. This is

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 27 Aug 2024 19:28 +, from amaca...@einval.com (Andrew M.A. Cater): > apt-get [...] is recommended for upgrading between Debian major releases. Is it, though? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#updating-lists https://www.debian.org/releases/stab

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Joe
erent cache structures, and if tool A has been used since tool B was last used, next time tool B is used it will not know what has been upgraded while it has 'been away', and will refresh its own cache. > > And at last, we have apt, which (as far as I now), soemtimes is > cal

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 27 Aug 2024 21:03 +0200, from hans.ullr...@loop.de (Hans): > So, my question is: Which one is recommended, when updating and upgrading is > used in a script, so that it causes as little as possible pain? apt-get and friends, including the dpkg set of tools if necessary. I believe ap

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 09:03:02PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Dear list, > > This is somehow rather irritating! > > So, my question is: Which one is recommended, when updating and upgrading is > used in a script, so that it causes as little as possible pain? > apt-get is

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
itude update loads its own list and is not using the list from > apt-get (otherwise it could not explain, why aptitude and apt-get > every time reloads the new list, when one of the other was eecuted > before). Also the dependencies in both tools are handled different. > > And at

Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Hans
and apt-get every time reloads the new list, when one of the other was eecuted before). Also the dependencies in both tools are handled different. And at last, we have apt, which (as far as I now), soemtimes is calling apt- get, and sometimes is calling aptitude. This is somehow rather irritating

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
вт, 27 авг. 2024 г. в 21:26, Richard Owlett : > > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > current Debian release. > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch02s01.en.html """ 2.1.2. CPU Support Both AMD64 and Intel 64 processo

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/27/2024 08:36 AM, David wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 at 13:06, Richard Owlett > > wrote: > >> I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors > >> support current Debian release. > >> > >> I

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread Dan Ritter
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/27/2024 08:14 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > > > current Debian release. ... > > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch0

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:16 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > current Debian release. <https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.en.html> > I have three machines whose processors are 64 bi

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread Dan Purgert
On Aug 27, 2024, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > current Debian release. > > I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. > Processors identified by running lscpu: > > Machine 1: > Ar

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/27/2024 08:36 AM, David wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 at 13:06, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support current Debian release. I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. To add to Dan's reply: https://www.

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/27/2024 08:14 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support current Debian release. I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. Processors identified by running lscpu: Machine 1: Architecture:

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Will the OS linked to by https://www.debian.org/ run on all three? Yes, on all three, both using the i386 (which is being phased out) or the amd64 ports. Stefan

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread David
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 at 13:06, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > current Debian release. > > I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. To add to Dan's reply: https://www.debian.org/ports/ https:

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread Dan Ritter
Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > current Debian release. > > I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. > Processors identified by running lscpu: > > Machine 1: > Architecture: i686 >

DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

2024-08-27 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support current Debian release. I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. Processors identified by running lscpu: Machine 1: Architecture: i686 Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 540 @ 2.

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 08:38:20AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > cross-graded to amd64 only as far as running the amd64 kernel while > > leaving all of the user land and the primary dpkg architecture as > > i386. This is a supported configuration. > > It's not just "supported": it's ba

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> cross-graded to amd64 only as far as running the amd64 kernel while > leaving all of the user land and the primary dpkg architecture as > i386. This is a supported configuration. It's not just "supported": it's basically the recommended setup for an i386 install, since the support for the i386

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 10:41 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. > /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. Which bus width do you want to know? Address, data, pci, agp, something else? Jeff

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