Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-09 Thread Steve Matzura
I have a sneaky suspicion it's a writing-style thing. I'll make 'em shorter next time. On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 12:51:53 +, you wrote: >On Thursday 07 January 2016 12:36:25 Steve Matzura wrote: >> Lisi, >> >> On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 11:04:33 +, you wrote: >> >I don't know how difficult it would be

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-06 Thread Steve Matzura
Richard: On Mon, 04 Jan 2016 05:53:15 -0600, you wrote: >On 1/4/2016 5:07 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 09:32:36AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> >>> A side question to Steve, "Is this post screen reader friendly?" >> >> That reminds me of the lecturers who say 'Hands up

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/4/2016 8:10 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 04 January 2016 11:53:15 Richard Owlett wrote: On 1/4/2016 5:07 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 09:32:36AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: A side question to Steve, "Is this post screen reader friendly?" That reminds me of the

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 January 2016 11:53:15 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 1/4/2016 5:07 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 09:32:36AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> A side question to Steve, "Is this post screen reader friendly?" > > > > That reminds me of the lecturers who say 'Hands up

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/4/2016 5:07 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 09:32:36AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: A side question to Steve, "Is this post screen reader friendly?" That reminds me of the lecturers who say 'Hands up if you can't hear me at the back.' I thought it was a logical ques

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-04 Thread Ron
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 00:07:21 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > > A side question to Steve, "Is this post screen reader friendly?" > That reminds me of the lecturers who say 'Hands up if you can't hear me > at the back.' "Smith ! I did not see you at the camouflage class !" "Sir ! Thank you, Sir !

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 09:32:36AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > A side question to Steve, "Is this post screen reader friendly?" That reminds me of the lecturers who say 'Hands up if you can't hear me at the back.' -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people wh

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/2/2016 5:06 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: [snip] My blind friend with his screen reader seems to have much less trouble with messy HTML than I (partially sighted) do. His screen reader just reads it to him. I stare at the mess of "pretty" colours and fancy writing, with blotches and swirls everyw

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-02 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 23:06:29 +, Lisi wrote: >My blind friend with his screen reader seems to have much less trouble with >messy HTML than I (partially sighted) do. His screen reader just reads it to >him. I stare at the mess of "pretty" colours and fancy writing, with >blotches and swirls

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 02 January 2016 17:22:11 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 03:45:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 02 Jan 2016 at 03:54:38 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > (BTW, top-posting makes it difficult to reply, and I couldn't be > > > bothered copying and pasting to correct

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-02 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 06:22:11 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: >> You would do well to read *all* of Steve Matzura's posts before >> bemoaning your lot. You'll come across "speech synthesis" and >> "screen reader". > >In that case, mails in html must be almost impossible to comprehend. :) >I'm guessin

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 03:45:40PM +, Brian wrote: > On Sat 02 Jan 2016 at 03:54:38 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > (BTW, top-posting makes it difficult to reply, and I couldn't be bothered > > copying and pasting to correct it.) > > You would do well to read *all* of Steve Matzura's post

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-02 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/01/16 05:10, Steve Matzura wrote: >>> Glad that you got it going. That default of sound being set to >>> 0 or muted by default is annoying even if one has some sight. >>> It must be maddening and incomprehensible if you haven't! The >>> ratio

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 01 January 2016 14:54:38 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 02:34:55PM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > > (BTW, top-posting makes it difficult to reply, and I couldn't be bothered > copying and pasting to correct it.) And harder still to follow. But I gather from elsewhere t

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-01 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Jan 2016 at 03:54:38 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > (BTW, top-posting makes it difficult to reply, and I couldn't be bothered > copying and pasting to correct it.) You would do well to read *all* of Steve Matzura's posts before bemoaning your lot. You'll come across "speech synthesis"

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 02:34:55PM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > True, but who knew that? I go with what I know most of the time, and > what I know about Jigdo can be summed up in one word: nothing. So when > I see a URL that purports to be the one to use, I use it. This is what > makes me crazy ab

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:57:38 +, Lisi wrote: >Some years ago a friend complained to me that I ignored his advice and never >listened. I said, not at all. I always listen avidly to advice. I always >think about advice. I just don't always follow advice. ;-) LOL. I always find something in

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 31 December 2015 15:45:23 Steve Matzura wrote: > Now everything's fixed, up, running, etc., it's quite time to thank > everyone who made suggestions, at least 99% of which were helpful in > some way, if not directly, then indirectly by putting my mind onto a > different thinking path.

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
Now everything's fixed, up, running, etc., it's quite time to thank everyone who made suggestions, at least 99% of which were helpful in some way, if not directly, then indirectly by putting my mind onto a different thinking path.

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
It doesn't help, but it *does* make sense. If that were documented in the Jigdo quick-start, that would be helpful. I'll write in and see about having it added as a cautionary note. On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 17:58:20 -0800, you wrote: > >> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> >> I sti

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > I still don't > understand why adding 'debian/' worked for the Pittsburgh URL but not, > say, for the Stevens Institute one. No matter, it's working now, I can’t say why any particular mirror does what it does, but the general rule is: mi

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:55:02 Rick Thomas wrote: > On Dec 30, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > This is what > > makes me crazy about anything Linux--secret knowledge that some > > people just seem to have or know, that would never occur to anyone > > else. > > Yeah, it’s a pro

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Yes, and there's a lot of "do what it says, not what you might think it wants you to do" operating in the Windows sphere. I still don't understand why adding 'debian/' worked for the Pittsburgh URL but not, say, for the Stevens Institute one. No matter, it's working now, downloading and hopefully c

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
That's true to a certain extent, but in the thirty years I've been working with Linux, back to SCO Xenix and System V Unix, I've found there's more unpublished knowledge and tips and tricks therein than ever I've found in twenty-five years of working with Windows. But what gets me is when people sa

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 30, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > This is what > makes me crazy about anything Linux--secret knowledge that some people > just seem to have or know, that would never occur to anyone else. Yeah, it’s a problem; but fortunately there are mailing lists like this one, and wikis

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:34:55 Steve Matzura wrote: > True, but who knew that? I go with what I know most of the time, and > what I know about Jigdo can be summed up in one word: nothing. So when > I see a URL that purports to be the one to use, I use it. This is what > makes me crazy about

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
True, but who knew that? I go with what I know most of the time, and what I know about Jigdo can be summed up in one word: nothing. So when I see a URL that purports to be the one to use, I use it. This is what makes me crazy about anything Linux--secret knowledge that some people just seem to have

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 13:22:03 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: I'm not exactly sure what is happening with your Adventures with Jigdo in Windows tale. But if you do not want the bother of thinking about the best mirror to use you could have http://httpredir.debian.org/ Highly recommended. > ??

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
How's that? The URL shown in the results of a search for "Pittsburgh" is: http://debian.mirrors.pair.com/ How did you know to add "debian/" to the end of it? Do I do that for any of those URL's? If that's true, I'd prefer to use a different mirror, slightly closer, listed as: ftp://ftp.

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:36:33AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > This is what I could get from the wget portion of the Jigdo process > running on a Windows 7 SP1 machine. I used a pair of files called > debian-8.2.0-amd64-BD-1 (.jigdo and .template) downloaded yesterday, > and the mirror at debian.

wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
This is what I could get from the wget portion of the Jigdo process running on a Windows 7 SP1 machine. I used a pair of files called debian-8.2.0-amd64-BD-1 (.jigdo and .template) downloaded yesterday, and the mirror at debian.mirrors.pair.com, but that doesn't matter much, as I get the same thing