Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 14 dec 10, 06:51:53, Geronimo wrote: > Hello, > > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > The question is certainly in the installer, I checked the translation > > files (.po), but it is probably shown only on expert installs. > > Ok, I tried several installations, but the question about utc settings is

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
Hello, shawn wilson wrote: > Gero wrote: > > What I need most, is conversion between dec/hex/oct/binary - and that > > conversion is very handy with KCalc. > > ... you mean like bc's hex(), oct(), dec(), bin() functions? I'm sorry. As I'm used to use vim and terminals - I have to confess, that

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
Hello, Andrei Popescu wrote: > I would even settle for a Linux version if properly packaged for Debian. > ... Given the reasonable one-time > licence fee I would even consider buying it! Agree! If I remember well, tc is able to have several directory shortcuts in one panel too. So yes - would b

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
Hello, Andrei Popescu wrote: > The question is certainly in the installer, I checked the translation > files (.po), but it is probably shown only on expert installs. Ok, I tried several installations, but the question about utc settings is not there. Not on normal installation, neither on expert

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
Hello, John Hasler wrote: > Geronimo writes: > > No, I refer to the kde settings dialog, where all desktop-settings can > > be changed. The same configuration page is accessible from the clock > > in the destop-bar. > > These are per-user settings, then? No - not at all. To change time-settin

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 13 dec 10, 13:20:41, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Are you sure it isn't just setting the user's TZ variable? IMHO the > > correct default for that should be null so that system time gets used. > > Andrei Popescu writes: > > I don't agree. The default should be the default time zone f

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Are you sure it isn't just setting the user's TZ variable? IMHO the > correct default for that should be null so that system time gets used. Andrei Popescu writes: > I don't agree. The default should be the default time zone for the > system (which is usually based on the country/area

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread John Hasler
Geronimo writes: > ...where after a gnome installation utc is set to true and after a kde > installation utc is set to false. IMHO neither package should touch /etc/default/rcS. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 13 dec 10, 11:35:41, John Hasler wrote: > Geronimo writes: > > No, I refer to the kde settings dialog, where all desktop-settings can > > be changed. The same configuration page is accessible from the clock > > in the destop-bar. > > These are per-user settings, then? Such a thing certainl

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread John Hasler
Geronimo writes: > No, I refer to the kde settings dialog, where all desktop-settings can > be changed. The same configuration page is accessible from the clock > in the destop-bar. These are per-user settings, then? Such a thing certainly should not be touching the system configuration. Are you

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 13 dec 10, 18:14:48, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 13. 12. 2010 17:56:30 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a): > >Every time I experimented with two-pane file managers I kept > >coming back > >to Tux Commander (package tuxcmd). While it does have it's quirks > >it is > >closest to the habits I acquired on

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread shawn wilson
> @Carl Johnson: >> I agree, but you might want to look into qalculate as a substitute. > > Ok, that's a really big calculator. But its no substitute for me. > What I need most, is conversion between dec/hex/oct/binary - and that > conversion is very handy with KCalc. > ... you mean like bc's hex()

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
Am Montag, 13. Dezember 2010, 17:56:30 schrieb Andrei Popescu: > Every time I experimented with two-pane file managers I kept coming ... Two-panel ;> I usually have about 20 panels (10 each side) and the most attractive feature: every action works without touching the mouse - I'm very keyboard

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 13. 12. 2010 17:56:30 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a): Every time I experimented with two-pane file managers I kept coming back to Tux Commander (package tuxcmd). While it does have it's quirks it is closest to the habits I acquired on Windows using Windows/Total Commander. Oh, the woes o

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Carl Johnson
Geronimo writes: > Hi, > >> While I'm not familiar with Kalk > Sorry, was my typo - I meant KCalc > > The gnome calculator is years away to be that usable. I agree, but you might want to look into qalculate as a substitute. -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 17:51:17 Andrei Popescu wrote: > Do you mean the mini-config done by KDE3 at first start? ... Or do you mean > the old base-config program, back when the installation was done in two > steps (sarge was the last release to use this IIRC)? No, I refer to the kde settings dia

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 13 dec 10, 16:47:31, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 13. 12. 2010 16:34:58 je Geronimo napisal(a): > > >But i.e. I can't live without krusader, which is heavily bound to kde > >internals. Or look at Kalk - there's no serious alternative on > >gnome systems. > > While I'm not familiar with Kalk, I w

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 13 dec 10, 17:17:51, Geronimo wrote: > On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 16:51:02 Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Lu, 13 dec 10, 16:13:47, Geronimo wrote: > > > > AFAIK this is only done when Windows is detected on that machine. > > > > > > Ok, that sounds reasonable. > > > > > > But then I miss an op

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 16:51:02 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Lu, 13 dec 10, 16:13:47, Geronimo wrote: > > > AFAIK this is only done when Windows is detected on that machine. > > > > Ok, that sounds reasonable. > > > > But then I miss an option, where I can overwrite that. > > For the installer?

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
Hi, > While I'm not familiar with Kalk Sorry, was my typo - I meant KCalc The gnome calculator is years away to be that usable. > I've since settled for gnome-commander because it's a > native Gnome app. I tried that commander, but it's an eternity away from krusader. So I have to live with sm

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 13 dec 10, 16:13:47, Geronimo wrote: > > AFAIK this is only done when Windows is detected on that machine. > > Ok, that sounds reasonable. > > But then I miss an option, where I can overwrite that. For the installer? > I always install my machines using UTC - and I was quite off socks

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 13. 12. 2010 16:34:58 je Geronimo napisal(a): But i.e. I can't live without krusader, which is heavily bound to kde internals. Or look at Kalk - there's no serious alternative on gnome systems. While I'm not familiar with Kalk, I was a *huge* fan of Krusader too, at the time. I've sin

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 16:18:08 Klistvud wrote: > On the other hand, I'm thankful to KDE 4, because it prompted me to > (re)discover and adopt Gnome. ROFL Yes, in this sense I say thank you too :) I'm now using gnome for about half a year and it is quite attractive. Lean, reasonable menues and

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 13. 12. 2010 07:27:07 je Geronimo napisal(a): The point is - I was a very emotional fan of kde in days before kde 4 - but now I hate kde. I can certainly relate to that, as can many other former KDE users. On the other hand, I'm thankful to KDE 4, because it prompted me to (re)dis

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 16:00:20 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Lu, 13 dec 10, 15:00:16, Geronimo wrote: > > The key is /etc/default/rcS - where after a gnome installation utc is set > > to true and after a kde installation utc is set to false. > > > > May be this is an issue for the installer-crew.

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 13 dec 10, 15:00:16, Geronimo wrote: > Hi, > > On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 09:26:50 shawn wilson wrote: > > ... easiest thing (since it's 03:23 here and i know off hand where to look) > > is to 'cat /etc/timezone' > > that file isn't the key and was the same on both systems. > Then I looked

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Geronimo
Hi, On Monday, 13. Dec 2010, 09:26:50 shawn wilson wrote: > ... easiest thing (since it's 03:23 here and i know off hand where to look) > is to 'cat /etc/timezone' that file isn't the key and was the same on both systems. Then I looked at /etc/adjtime and that told me the difference. The key is

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread Doug
On 12/13/2010 03:26 AM, shawn wilson wrote: Additionally: I need some time to enter BIOS and reorder boot sequence of harddrives - so I suspect, that it's not a question of time skew but may be wrong handling of hwclock - as the kde-system comes up with a wrong time (wrong by one hour - not a few

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-13 Thread shawn wilson
> Additionally: I need some time to enter BIOS and reorder boot sequence of > harddrives - so I suspect, that it's not a question of time skew but may be > wrong handling of hwclock - as the kde-system comes up with a wrong time > (wrong by one hour - not a few seconds). > > Is it possible, that kd

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-12 Thread Geronimo
Hello, On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 06:58:56, shawn wilson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Geronimo wrote: > first, some side comments that aren't going to answer your questions: > why not use a vm? I already use virtualbox for testing. Few days after squeeze freeze I had a crash of my s

Re: weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-12 Thread shawn wilson
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Geronimo wrote: > Hello, > > I have two separate installations of debian squeeze, each on a different > harddisk. More by accident, than by intention it happens, that each > installation has its own grub entry in the mbr of its harddisk. > Both systems use ext3 an

weired issues of debian squeeze (base system)

2010-12-12 Thread Geronimo
Hello, I have two separate installations of debian squeeze, each on a different harddisk. More by accident, than by intention it happens, that each installation has its own grub entry in the mbr of its harddisk. Both systems use ext3 and grub2 and hwclock runs at UTC. 1. On both installtions i