Re: Reproducing the problem on Bullseye install w/o network mirror

2025-02-21 Thread David Wright
On Sun 02 Feb 2025 at 12:14:08 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:31:02PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 01 Feb 2025 at 15:29:13 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > I'm not sure this is a bug per se: if what you want is a fully offline > > > install, then you

Re: Reproducing the problem on Bullseye install w/o network mirror

2025-02-02 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:31:02PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 01 Feb 2025 at 15:29:13 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 11:00:25PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 31 Jan 2025 at 23:30:52 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > > > > Right: I've just r

Re: Reproducing the problem on Bullseye install w/o network mirror

2025-02-01 Thread David Wright
On Sat 01 Feb 2025 at 15:29:13 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 11:00:25PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 31 Jan 2025 at 23:30:52 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 02:55:56PM +0900, Mailing List wrote: > > > > > > > > This failure occ

Reproducing the problem on Bullseye install w/o network mirror

2025-02-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 11:00:25PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 31 Jan 2025 at 23:30:52 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 02:55:56PM +0900, Mailing List wrote: > > > > > > This failure occurs during the "Select and install software" stage. The > > > root cause is

W: best practice to handle special characters in cifs

2024-12-05 Thread tuxoholic
Hi list, Some of the special characters like  :?!| need character mapping in the cifs filesharing protocol in order to work well with different software plattforms (Windows mostly). The only exception to character mapping were the so called "unix extensions", which allowed a unix system to sh

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread eben
On 8/2/24 09:11, DdB wrote: If all you have is swap space or outdated crap, then back it up and do whatever you like. GPT is no must, if the disk is below 2TB in size and UEFI no option. If you have >4 partitions, then except for booting and recalcitrant OS installers, GPT is easier to deal wi

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 19:34 schrieb Łukasz Kalamłacki: > If you need to boot initrd without iso you an try this: Oops, i should read more carefully ... idk, why complicate matters. the boot files for i386 are located here: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/20230607+de

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 19:34 schrieb Łukasz Kalamłacki: > If you need to boot initrd without iso you an try this: Oops, i should read more carefully ... idk, why complicate matters. the boot files for i386 are located here: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/20230607+de

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
If you need to boot initrd without iso you an try this: https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/linux On

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 18:48 schrieb Anssi Saari: > Richard Owlett writes: > >> I was hoping I could somehow tell grub to run an installer's ISO image. >> I think the posted links will lead me adequately. > > I have actually tried that. The ISO image needs a little special support > so that after the

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Anssi Saari
Richard Owlett writes: > I was hoping I could somehow tell grub to run an installer's ISO image. > I think the posted links will lead me adequately. I have actually tried that. The ISO image needs a little special support so that after the kernel has booted and initrd loaded, it needs to be able

Re: OPERATOR ERROR ---- Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
Hi, Could you give as more information about these systems on which you wish to install Bookworm? Newer distribution of Linux has a lot bigger resources consumption that old one. I would like to get: RAM size, CPU type, HDD size. Bookworm requirements are available here: https://wiki.de

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 14:34 schrieb Richard Owlett: > During initial installation of Debian Squeeze (or later) would I have > been explicitly asked to choose between MBR and GPT? I can't say, at that time, i was a stranger to debian. But ... i saw the installer deciding on its own, if not explicitly put

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 02:33 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 21:11 schrieb Richard Owlett: I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . Should that make any practical difference to manual install? Not sure ab

OPERATOR ERROR ---- Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 02:11 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/01/2024 01:56 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Richard Owlett: [SNIP] I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . Should that make a

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 02:33 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 21:11 schrieb Richard Owlett: I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . Should that make any practical difference to manual install? Not sure ab

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.08.2024 um 21:11 schrieb Richard Owlett: > I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. > The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . > Should that make any practical difference to manual install? > > Not sure about gpt vs mbr. I have whate

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 01:56 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Richard Owlett: In the phrase "to boot the installer using grub stanza (or manually)", just what does "(or manually)" refer to? I am using all of the options listed below depending on circumstances. If you are clear about using

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
Hi, This can be helpful : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEkb-GXz3sY Best, Łukasz On 1.08.2024 14:41, Richard Owlett wrote: I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the BIOS of neither machine

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.08.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Richard Owlett: > In the phrase "to boot the installer using grub stanza (or manually)", > just what does "(or manually)" refer to? I am using all of the options listed below depending on circumstances. If you are clear about using your hd to store an installer iso,

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
Hi, on tftp server you need to unpack this: https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz to install i386 bookworm via PXEBoot. Best regards, Łukasz On 1.08.2024 14:41, Richard Owlett wrote: I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more a

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
Hi, 15 years ago I had a laptop with broken CD drive but with integrated working ethernet NIC and bios supported PXE boot, so I configured isc-dhcp-server in my network which provides pxelinux.0 bootloader and address of tftp server. On tftp server I uploaded pxeboot images from Debian. All

Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 08:38 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 03:35:38PM +0200, DdB wrote: i recommend installing from netinstall iso image using the hd-media files to boot the installer using grub stanza (or manually). Description in the manual is a bit short, but you can ask me, if yo

Re: CLARIFICATIONS Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 10:22:13AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/01/2024 07:41 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown > > motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the > > BIOS of neither machine suppor

CLARIFICATIONS Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 07:41 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the BIOS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard d

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 03:35:38PM +0200, DdB wrote: > i recommend installing from netinstall iso image using the > hd-media files to boot the installer using grub stanza (or > manually). Description in the manual is a bit short, but you can > ask me, if you need. Oh yes, great suggestion! I

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Anssi Saari
Richard Owlett writes: > I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown > motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the > BIOS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither > has functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard drives have copio

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.08.2024 um 14:41 schrieb Richard Owlett: > I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown > motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the > BIOS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has > functional CD/DVD drive. Both h

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread George at Clug
Richard, Are both of your computers (laptop and desktop) 64 bit capable?  Not that this matters too much to my below suggestion. This might help you if you can remove the drives from the laptop and/or desktop.  I often take a drive out of a computer, then put the drive into a computer that can

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 07:41:53AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown > motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the BIOS > of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has > functiona

Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the BIOS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard drives have copious free space. Both machines

Spotkanie w sprawie nowej aplikacji

2024-03-22 Thread Monika Barnaś
Dzień dobry, chciałabym dotrzeć do osoby odpowiedzialnej lub decyzyjnej w obszarze zarządzania dokumentacją w Państwa firmie. Zapewniamy możliwość innowacyjnego, elektronicznego obiegu dokumentacji opartego na wykorzystaniu nowoczesnej aplikacji no-code, która działa wielowymiarowo i

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-10-11 Thread Felix Miata
Sven Joachim composed on 2023-04-29 09:02 (UTC+0200): > On 2023-04-28 21:30 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> # inxi -Gxx >> Graphics: >> Device-1: Intel 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 >> v: kernel arch: Gen-4 ports: active: DVI-D-1 empty: VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 >>

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-06-22 Thread bw
>> Can anyone >> point to an existing meta-bug report on the subject of stopping the litter? >> Searching seems to find only reports pointing to particular GPUs, I don't know about meta-bug, but try 989539? 981087? you can complain there, but without a patch I don't see it helping. https://bugs.d

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
d_modname\\>" /proc/modules > "${CONFDIR}/modules"; then > echo "W: Possible missing firmware > /lib/firmware/${firmware} for module > fi Mostly gibberish to this non-programmer. Comment out what, 3 lines? 1? 2? The one I'm loo

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-06-19 Thread bw
all goes wrong. /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions 4322/23580 18% if grep -q "^$kmod_modname\\>" /proc/modules "${CONFDIR}/modules"; then echo "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/${firmware} for module fi

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-06-19 Thread Felix Miata
0 / R5 430 OEM R7 240/340 Radeon 520 OEM] driver: amdgpu v: kernel chip-ID: 1002:6611 Display: server: X.org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: modesetting dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1: 2560x1440 2: 1680x1050 # dpkg-query -W | grep firmware firmware-amd-graphics 20230210-5 fir

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-05-11 Thread Felix Miata
is now a symlink to boot/initrd.img-6.1.0-7-amd64 I: /vmlinuz is now a symlink to boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-8-amd64 I: /initrd.img is now a symlink to boot/initrd.img-6.1.0-8-amd64 /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.1.0-8-amd64 W: Possible missing firmw

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-04-29 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2023-04-28 21:30 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > # inxi -Gxx > Graphics: > Device-1: Intel 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 > v: kernel arch: Gen-4 ports: active: DVI-D-1 empty: VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 > chip-ID: 8086:2992# aka ancient > # grep MODULES /etc/

W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-04-28 Thread Felix Miata
# inxi -Gxx Graphics: Device-1: Intel 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-4 ports: active: DVI-D-1 empty: VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2992 # aka ancient # grep MODULES /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf # MODULES: [ most | netboot | dep

Re: how disable apt downloads w/o sudo

2022-09-12 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 12 Sep 2022, jindam, vani wrote: i am concerned about *myself* Is your concern the use of bandwidth? yes Is a disk being filled up and running out of space? Something else? frankly, if the downloaded files cant be used, its *definitely* wastage of space Are you *only* concer

Re: how disable apt downloads w/o sudo

2022-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 04:44:36PM +, jindam, vani wrote: > On 12 September 2022 1:04:51 PM UTC, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >Well, *I* don't understand your issue yet. Can you please explain it in > >more detail? > > > >Are you trying to stop other users on your system from doing this, or are > >

Re: how disable apt downloads w/o sudo

2022-09-12 Thread jindam, vani
On 12 September 2022 1:04:51 PM UTC, Greg Wooledge wrote: >On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:59:15PM +, jindam, vani wrote: >> On 12 September 2022 11:23:49 AM UTC, Tim Woodall >> wrote: >> >If the OP is complaining about: >> > >> >$ apt download reportbug >> >Get:1 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debi

Re: how disable apt downloads w/o sudo

2022-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:59:15PM +, jindam, vani wrote: > On 12 September 2022 11:23:49 AM UTC, Tim Woodall > wrote: > >If the OP is complaining about: > > > >$ apt download reportbug > >Get:1 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian buster/main i386 reportbug all > >7.5.3~deb10u1 [128 kB] > >Fetche

Re: how disable apt downloads w/o sudo

2022-09-12 Thread jindam, vani
On 12 September 2022 11:23:49 AM UTC, Tim Woodall wrote: >On Mon, 12 Sep 2022, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 06:37:47AM +, jindam, vani wrote: >>> how do i stop apt downloads if i dont >>> use sudo. for ex: >>> $ apt install reportbug >> >> Since you posted your sample

Re: how disable apt downloads w/o sudo

2022-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:23:49PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 06:37:47AM +, jindam, vani wrote: > > > how do i stop apt downloads if i dont > > > use sudo. for ex: > > > $ apt install reportbug > If the OP is complaining about: > > $ apt download reportbug > Get:1 h

Re: how disable apt downloads w/o sudo

2022-09-12 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 12 Sep 2022, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 06:37:47AM +, jindam, vani wrote: how do i stop apt downloads if i dont use sudo. for ex: $ apt install reportbug Since you posted your sample command with a $ as the shell prompt, we assume that you are running the command

Re: how disable apt downloads w/o sudo

2022-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 06:37:47AM +, jindam, vani wrote: > how do i stop apt downloads if i dont > use sudo. for ex: > $ apt install reportbug Since you posted your sample command with a $ as the shell prompt, we assume that you are running the command as a non-root user. That's what the $

Re: how disable apt downloads w/o sudo

2022-09-12 Thread Dan Ritter
jindam, vani wrote: > how do i stop apt downloads if i dont > use sudo. for ex: > $ apt install reportbug apt can't install things without root permissions. What is the actual result of typing the above command as a non-root user? -dsr-

how disable apt downloads w/o sudo

2022-09-11 Thread jindam, vani
how do i stop apt downloads if i dont use sudo. for ex: $ apt install reportbug regards, jindam, vani

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-08 Thread Linux-Fan
datasheets/SKC2000_us.pdf Which indicates on page 2 that the max. power consumption is 7W under heavy write loads. I get most of my estimates derived from the figures of a PC magazine I regularly read :) Anyway, the computation now la

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-07 Thread Linux-Fan
read how many Watts on the box of whatever I get :) device model/category max W note ref - CPU AMD middle end, 4 cores 65 exact [i] fans 80 mm (3K RPM

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-06 Thread Linux-Fan
Emanuel Berg writes: Unfortunately the motherboard was worst-case 166.2 W, not the previous estimate/approximation at 80. The 166.2 (motherboard W really doesn't include the CPU?) It does, see https://www.techporn.ph/wp-content/uploads/ASUS-ROG-Strix-B450-F-Gaming-Benchmark-1.jpg whi

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Emanuel Berg wrote: > Unfortunately the motherboard was worst-case 166.2 W, not the > previous estimate/approximation at 80. > > The 166.2 (motherboard W really doesn't include the CPU?) > > So no it says it is is worst-case 277 W, and with +30% wiggle > room it is 36

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-05 Thread Linux-Fan
; > (b) PSU with 600W will have specified 90% at 120W i.e. > draw 120W/0.9 = 133W Okay, so with everything and +25% wiggle room, i.e. (ceiling (* 1.25 (+ 19 125 (* 3 3) (* 2 6) 80 3 2.8))) ; 314 W Use that figure, see above :) it is 314 W, and then the worst efficiency is 87%, the dig

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-05 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2022-03-04 at 23:33 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: [...] > Please keep the following points in mind when doing PSU wattage sizing for > modern PCs: > >  - Judging a CPU by its thermal design power is no longer feasible due >    to some CPUs permanently overclocking while the actually available

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2022-03-05 at 14:07 +1300, Ash Joubert wrote: > On 05/03/2022 14:00, Emanuel Berg wrote: > > So I should get a passive 400W then. > > My last attempt to build a completely silent PC with a standard desktop > case and PSU failed because the passively-cooled PSU buzzed at very low > loads

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Ash Joubert
On 05/03/2022 14:24, Emanuel Berg wrote: Ash Joubert wrote: My last attempt to build a completely silent PC with a standard desktop case and PSU failed because the passively-cooled PSU buzzed at very low loads (idle), *exactly* when I wanted it to be silent. What about your attempt before that?

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Ash Joubert
power. You have a projector and keyboard as well? No, it is just a phone. 😀 My desktop just has a single BenQ LED monitor on HDMI, and I use a Logitech MK270R wireless keyboard/mouse combo. I think the monitor, which has its own external adaptor, uses about 30 W. I measured the AC power

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Ash Joubert
On 05/03/2022 14:00, Emanuel Berg wrote: So I should get a passive 400W then. My last attempt to build a completely silent PC with a standard desktop case and PSU failed because the passively-cooled PSU buzzed at very low loads (idle), *exactly* when I wanted it to be silent. Kind regards,

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Ash Joubert
On 05/03/2022 13:35, Emanuel Berg wrote: Ash Joubert wrote: My PSU is a mere 120 W, and I am a game developer, albeit targetting low poly games that will run on mobile. Amazing! Not nearly as amazing as what will run on my three-year-old mid-range SDM660 Android phone: Firefox, YouTube, 3D

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Ash Joubert
On 05/03/2022 13:17, Stefan Monnier wrote: - Streacom FC8WS Alpha fanless case [...] - Intel i7-7700 65W CPU (Kaby Lake, HD 630 iGPU) I can only concur, Stefan "typing this on an older Streacom FC8 with a 35W CPU and an external 90W AC/DC power brick" Ooh, that soun

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Ash Joubert
On 05/03/2022 04:24, Emanuel Berg wrote: I've heard that for gaming you would want a 600~800W PSU [1] but how do I know how many W I need for my computer use? I think the most resource-intense I do would be compiling and watching multimedia on mpv. [2] Not sure this is going to hel

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Linux-Fan
Emanuel Berg writes: Linux-Fan wrote: > Please keep the following points in mind when doing PSU > wattage sizing for modern PCs: > > - Judging a CPU by its thermal design power is no longer > feasible due to some CPUs permanently overclocking while > the actually available cooling power per

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Linux-Fan
o add to that, most recent PSUs are very good in terms of efficiency. They are switched and drag much less power when the computer doesn't demand it. I would also go with a 600 W PSU. [...] Please keep the following points in mind when doing PSU wattage sizing for modern PCs: - Ju

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 06:36:35PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 06:47:14PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > > Alexis Grigoriou wrote: > > > > >> I've heard that for gaming you would want a 600~800W PSU > > >> [1] but how

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Felix Miata
Emanuel Berg composed on 2022-03-04 19:04 (UTC+0100): > OK, final word on this, "case" closed LOL :) > Thanks a lot for the help ... > Conclusion: a 300W PSU should do it! It might be just right. I've read 30% headroom is a good idea if you're starting afresh. The largest I own is a 700W, used

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 02:39:12PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:32:24PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Besides, as soon as you boot your browser [...] > Unless you're also running GNOME, in which case it started sweating > as soon as the display manager boot

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:32:24PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 06:46:50PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > >> But again, the GPU - if I don't play games, do I still need > > >> the W for that, a

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 06:46:50PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >> But again, the GPU - if I don't play games, do I still need > >> the W for that, as high? > > > > What happens if your PSU doesn't have a high enough wattag

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
80 [that is on several diiferent voltages] > RAM ~DDR3 (1.5V) 3 (actually it is a DDR4) [on which voltages?] > SSD 2.8 [5V and maybe 12V] > > Total: > > (+ 19 125 (* 3 3) (* 2 6) 80 3 2.8) ; 250 W > > Total, w

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 06:47:14PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Alexis Grigoriou wrote: > > >> I've heard that for gaming you would want a 600~800W PSU > >> [1] but how do I know how many W I need for my computer > >> use? I think the most resource-in

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 04, 2022 11:48:41 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > But again, the GPU - if I don't play games, do I still need > > the W for that, as high? > > What happens if your PSU doesn't have a high enough wattage is that > things will work fine as long as your

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 04:55:33PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Henning Follmann wrote: > > >> I've heard that for gaming you would want a 600~800W PSU > >> [1] but how do I know how many W I need for my computer > >> use? I think the most resource-in

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Alexis Grigoriou
On Fri, 2022-03-04 at 16:24 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > I've heard that for gaming you would want a 600~800W PSU [1] > but how do I know how many W I need for my computer use? > I think the most resource-intense I do would be compiling and > watching multimedia on mpv. [2]

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-04 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 04:24:40PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > I've heard that for gaming you would want a 600~800W PSU [1] > but how do I know how many W I need for my computer use? > I think the most resource-intense I do would be compiling and > watching multimedia on mpv. [2

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-15 Thread piorunz
On 15/01/2022 16:50, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 15 ian 22, 13:48:39, piorunz wrote: And lastly, Debian archive nowhere says and/or guarantees that files will be kept there forever. "forever" is a very, very, very long time ;) Who can guarantee something like this, and if anyone would, why

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 ian 22, 13:48:39, piorunz wrote: > > And lastly, Debian archive nowhere says and/or guarantees that files > will be kept there forever. "forever" is a very, very, very long time ;) Who can guarantee something like this, and if anyone would, why would you believe them? Kind regards, A

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-15 Thread didier gaumet
Le samedi 15 janvier 2022 à 13:48 +, piorunz a écrit : [...] > Also, in the archive you have only Debian releases from 3 onwards. > Older releases are not available. [...] True, there are no ISOs to be downloaded, because at the time of release, floppy drives still were more ubiquitous tha

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 01:48:39PM +, piorunz wrote: > On 15/01/2022 13:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 01:28:16PM +, piorunz wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > But IMHO, burden of keeping all archaeological versions of Debian > > > shouldn't be on Debian Project. Ther

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-15 Thread piorunz
On 15/01/2022 13:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 01:28:16PM +, piorunz wrote: [...] But IMHO, burden of keeping all archaeological versions of Debian shouldn't be on Debian Project. There are many volunteers with server storage and bandwidth, they could keep it online,

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-15 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 01:28:16PM +, piorunz wrote: [...] > But IMHO, burden of keeping all archaeological versions of Debian > shouldn't be on Debian Project. There are many volunteers with server > storage and bandwidth, they could keep it online, as torrents, etc. I don't understand: are

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-15 Thread piorunz
On 15/01/2022 06:49, Anders Andersson wrote: I would be more surprised if the packages were *not* available somewhere, and I hope they are "guaranteed" the same way as the new packages (that is, no guarantee other than the benevolence of the community members). These things are very important fo

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-14 Thread Anders Andersson
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:13 PM piorunz wrote: > > Witaj Wojciech, > > On 13/01/2022 11:02, Wojciech wrote: > > > > Kiedy mogę się spodziewać naprawienia ? > > Never. Jessie end of life was in June 2018, and LTS support has ended in > June 2020, one and half years ago. It's a surprise that some Je

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-14 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 1/14/22 18:56, Wojciech wrote: > Thanks Georgi. > > Guys, Don't solve it. I solved it myself. > I have a feeling you don't quite understand what I'm writing about. > > choose-mirror pointing to the branch > http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/ > The Release found there points (redirec

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 05:56:19PM +0100, Wojciech wrote: > choose-mirror pointing to the branch > http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/ > The Release found there points (redirects) to > http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/dists/oldoldstable/ > At that location lies another distribution/differe

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-14 Thread Wojciech
tp://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/ Znaleziony tam Release wskazuje (przekierowuje) na http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/dists/oldoldstable/ W tej lokalizacji leży inna dystrybucja/wersja, nie Jessie. Takie wskazanie jest błędne niezależnie od tego, czy Jessie jest oldoldstable, czy powinna być

Re: Instalacja Debian8 blad w Release

2022-01-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Wojciech wrote: > Suite: oldoldstable > Codename: stretch > Attention: not jessie As stated by others without Cc-ing you: Jessie is not supported any more. See the "Follow-Ups" link list of your archived post at https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/01/msg00391.html > Correct destina

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-13 Thread piorunz
On 13/01/2022 15:58, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: The latest normal support release is Debian 11 - Bullseye. The previous version is Debian 10 - Buster - which will move to long term support later in 2022. It would be a very good idea to update to Debian 11 if you can. Oh, I'm sorry, yes, of cou

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
alf years ago. It's a surprise that some Jessie > packages are even available online somewhere. This is not guaranteed. > > > Jak jest metoda obejściowa w tym momencie. > > Move on to Debian 9, current LTS support release, or Debian 10, current > normal support rel

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-13 Thread piorunz
s not guaranteed. Jak jest metoda obejściowa w tym momencie. Move on to Debian 9, current LTS support release, or Debian 10, current normal support release. Full list and their EOL dates: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The univ

Re: Instalacja Debian8 blad w Release

2022-01-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Google translation says that Wojciech wrote: > During the installation, when you choose a mirror server, packages is > mistake. Maybe the fallback servers listed in debian-8.11.1-amd64-DVD-1.jigdo can be used. I understand that this one is quite time specific: http://snapshot.debian.org/ar

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-13 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 1/13/22 13:02, Wojciech wrote: > W trakcie instalacji w momencie wyboru serwera lustrzanego pakietów jest > błąd. > choose-mirror: wget -q > http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/dist/jessie/Release -O - | grep -E  > '^(Suite|Codename):' > Ta komenda zwraca: > Suite: 

Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-13 Thread Wojciech
W trakcie instalacji w momencie wyboru serwera lustrzanego pakietów jest błąd. choose-mirror: wget -q http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/dist/jessie/Release -O - | grep -E  '^(Suite|Codename):' Ta komenda zwraca: Suite:  oldoldstable Codename: jessie W następnym kroku jest: choose-mirro

Re: Trackpad freezing in Bullseye on HP Laptop w/Celeron N4020 CPU

2021-10-09 Thread John Kerr Anderson
Hi guys, Under tweaks 'disable keyboard while typing is checked.' I noticed last night that it's a very severe problem as if I try typing a document the machine locks up and I must press the power button. If I type in a console screen in textmode I can type without a problem. Here is the output

Re: Trackpad freezing in Bullseye on HP Laptop w/Celeron N4020 CPU

2021-10-09 Thread yixuan lin
> 在 2021年10月9日,下午9:49,John Kerr Anderson 写道: > > Hi Everyone, > > I've got an HP laptop that is having a problem of the trackpad freezing > randomly when using the machine. If I plug an external mouse via USB or I do > a I can log back in and get the mouse working again. > > It's annoyi

Re: Trackpad freezing in Bullseye on HP Laptop w/Celeron N4020 CPU

2021-10-09 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 10/10/21 00:49, John Kerr Anderson wrote: Hi Everyone, I've got an HP laptop that is having a problem of the trackpad freezing randomly when using the machine.  If I plug an external mouse via USB or I do a I can log back in and get the mouse working again. It's annoying as it happens wh

Trackpad freezing in Bullseye on HP Laptop w/Celeron N4020 CPU

2021-10-09 Thread John Kerr Anderson
Hi Everyone, I've got an HP laptop that is having a problem of the trackpad freezing randomly when using the machine. If I plug an external mouse via USB or I do a I can log back in and get the mouse working again. It's annoying as it happens when you are working and is completely random when i

Re: Music players that save (different) volume settings for each song (was: Re: mplayer with -loop 0 but w/o volume reset?

2020-03-05 Thread David Wright
On Tue 03 Mar 2020 at 07:22:49 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, March 03, 2020 05:57:27 AM Curt wrote: > > On 2020-03-02, David Wright wrote: > > > $ mplayer -volume 50 -fs -loop 0 -softvol Youtube/Come\ Live\ With\ > > > Me-_bVNd_sRlMk.mkv > > (I'm not the OP.) I wonder if there

Re: Music players that save (different) volume settings for each song (was: Re: mplayer with -loop 0 but w/o volume reset?

2020-03-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting rhkra...@gmail.com (2020-03-03 13:22:49) > (I'm not the OP.) I wonder if there are any music players that can > save a (play)list along with a selected volume for each song on the > playlist? (Or use a database of songs with volume setting, and then > access the database as the playlis

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