Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-10-14 Thread dman
On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 11:05:26AM -0500, Glenn Becker wrote: | Hi, | | I recently upgraded to Vim 6.0 on a mostly-testing system, and seem | to have lost the ability to access Vim help. I caught part of a Vim | 6.0 thread on here some weeks ago, but don't recall whether this was | addressed. | |

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-10-14 Thread Glenn Becker
Hi, I recently upgraded to Vim 6.0 on a mostly-testing system, and seem to have lost the ability to access Vim help. I caught part of a Vim 6.0 thread on here some weeks ago, but don't recall whether this was addressed. When I try to access Help I get the following: "help.txt.gz" [readonly][no

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-10-02 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 04:50:18PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Steve Greenland wrote: > > It does. I just tested. Nvi uses 30, vim 120. > > Indeed: > > vim (5.7.019-1) unstable; urgency=low > > ... > * Bump alternative priority to be the same as elvis > ... still not high

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-29 Thread dman
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 12:42:29AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: ... | yep. it usually happened on a system that i'd just built, then i needed | to edit a config file and ran "vi"...noticed that it's nvi rather than | vim, so quit and "apt-get install vim vim-rt" while i'm thinking of it. | then run

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 07:04:45PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 08:01:44AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 03:29:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > > Not needed, I'll settle for Essential: ye

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Steve Greenland wrote: > It does. I just tested. Nvi uses 30, vim 120. Indeed: vim (5.7.019-1) unstable; urgency=low ... * Bump alternative priority to be the same as elvis ... -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 26 Dec 2000 18:14:21 +0100 Wichert. -- __

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 08:50:47AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > it would also be nice for vim to have a higher alternatives > > precedence than nvi. > > It does. I just tested. Nvi uses 30, vim 120. good, that must have changed. > > i often have to install vim on a system, then run "vi" and

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-29 Thread Steve Greenland
On 28-Sep-01, 17:22 (CDT), Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 03:29:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Not needed, I'll settle for Essential: yes :) > > good idea :) > > it would also be nice for vim to have a higher alternatives precedence > than nvi. It do

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 08:01:44AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 03:29:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > > Not needed, I'll settle for Essential: yes :) > > > good idea

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 08:01:44AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 03:29:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > Not needed, I'll settle for Essential: yes :) > > good idea :) > > I don't think so. has debian really turned

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-29 Thread wouter
On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 03:29:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Not needed, I'll settle for Essential: yes :) > > good idea :) I don't think so. First, we have two vi's in a base system (elvis-tiny and nvi). I'd say one is more than enough. Seco

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread dman
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 12:36:14AM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: | | On Sat, 29 Sep 2001 08:22:54 +1000, Craig Sanders writes: | >i often have to install vim on a system, then run "vi" and find i'm in | >nvi rather than vim. yuk! | | I'm doing base-installs every time, and, quite often, find that

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Robert Waldner
On Sat, 29 Sep 2001 08:22:54 +1000, Craig Sanders writes: >i often have to install vim on a system, then run "vi" and find i'm in >nvi rather than vim. yuk! I'm doing base-installs every time, and, quite often, find that I'm in elvis (or -tiny, whatever). Which is ..unusable to me. Is this rea

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 03:29:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Not needed, I'll settle for Essential: yes :) good idea :) it would also be nice for vim to have a higher alternatives precedence than nvi. i often have to install vim on a system, then run "vi" and find i'm in nvi rather than v

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Rick Pasotto wrote: > The upgrade (from 5.8) removed vim-rt and I kept the old config files. You need the new vimrc. Wichert. -- _ / Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 06:34:52PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > vim 6.0 was released yesterday and I just finished the packages for it. > Please note however that if you have been using the prerelease packages > I made this will be a downgrade (unfortunately I made a stupid mistake > in vers

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Daniel Burrows wrote: > Sssh! Don't give him ideas! Not needed, I'll settle for Essential: yes :) Wichert. -- _ / Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Robert Waldner
On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 07:56:41 EDT, Daniel Burrows writes: >On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 09:26:50AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: >> On Sep/27/2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> >> > vim 6.0 was released yesterday and I just finished the packages for it. >> >> Does this new version have

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 09:26:50AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: > On Sep/27/2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > vim 6.0 was released yesterday and I just finished the packages for it. > > Does this new version have a "Conflicts: *emacs*" yet? > > (just joking, of course

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Wichert, On Friday, September 28, 2001 at 11:25:57 AM, you wrote (at least in part): > Previously Peter Palmreuther wrote: >> I would like to ask if there would be a packaged version for stable/potato >> too >> or if vim-6 will remain .deb-ed only for >= "wooddy"? > I can build a potato

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Peter Palmreuther wrote: > I would like to ask if there would be a packaged version for stable/potato too > or if vim-6 will remain .deb-ed only for >= "wooddy"? I can build a potato package as well, but if you don't mind I'ld like to wait until the packages have stabalized in bit in un

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 28 Sep 2001, Danie Roux wrote: > > As a dedicated vim user, I always use the source tarballs, which IME > > always compile flawlessly and install themselves in /usr/local, thus > > leaving Debian undisturbed. It's easy to have the latest incarnation of > > this brilliant editor if you do it this

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Danie Roux
> As a dedicated vim user, I always use the source tarballs, which IME > always compile flawlessly and install themselves in /usr/local, thus > leaving Debian undisturbed. It's easy to have the latest incarnation of > this brilliant editor if you do it this way. > > Anthony I used to do this, un

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 27 Sep 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Just use an epoch, please. That's what it's for. > > > > No, those package were never uploaded to debian > > Ah. That does change things a bit. > > > > -- >

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread turgon
On Sep/27/2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > vim 6.0 was released yesterday and I just finished the packages for it. Does this new version have a "Conflicts: *emacs*" yet? (just joking, of course :-)) -- Roberto Suarez Soto

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > Wonderful. I just tested it. It can use EUC-JP encoding in > EUC-JP locale. Also other encodings. In short, it is locale- > sensible. Great! > If vim 6.0 will be included in Woody, Bug#107856 (enable CJK > handling ability) can be closed. Are you willing t

(OT) International Text (was Re: vim 6.0 packages)

2001-09-27 Thread dman
On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 09:16:07AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: [ stuff about international text input in vim6 ] Somehow the default keymap for the console on my laptop from work is set to use funky key combos for inserting international text. To get a ~ or " I have to type the character then sp

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-27 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, At Thu, 27 Sep 2001 18:34:52 +0200, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > vim 6.0 was released yesterday and I just finished the packages for it. > Please note however that if you have been using the prerelease packages > I made this will be a downgrade (unfortunately I made a stupid

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-27 Thread Joey Hess
Colin Watson wrote: > Personally I think Wouter is right, no matter whom he's talking to. Personally, I agree. It's not as if you get a certian limited number of epochs to use in your tenure as a developer, and Wiggy has used them all up in his long and illustrious history with the project. :-p -

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-27 Thread wouter
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Danie Roux wrote: > I just want to know this: > > Do you realise you are talking to > > - a member of the security team > - a member of the Technical committee > - the (I believe) active maintainer of dpkg > - and to boot: The previous leader of Debian? And a senior Debia

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-27 Thread wouter
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Just use an epoch, please. That's what it's for. > > No, those package were never uploaded to debian Ah. That does change things a bit. -- wouter dot verhelst at advalvas in Belgium This is Linux world. O

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 07:16:33PM +0200, Danie Roux wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 06:49:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Policy section 4: > > > > epoch > > [...] > > It is provided to allow mistakes in the version numbers of older versions > > of a package [...] > > > > Just use a

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-27 Thread Danie Roux
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 06:49:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > > > vim 6.0 was released yesterday and I just finished the packages for it. > > Please note however that if you have been using the prerelease packages > > I made this will be a

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Just use an epoch, please. That's what it's for. No, those package were never uploaded to debian and have always been marked as experimental prereleases and this happens to be one of the bugs present on them. If you don't like that you shouldn't have used thos

Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-27 Thread wouter
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > vim 6.0 was released yesterday and I just finished the packages for it. > Please note however that if you have been using the prerelease packages > I made this will be a downgrade (unfortunately I made a stupid mistake > in versioning), so you will

vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
vim 6.0 was released yesterday and I just finished the packages for it. Please note however that if you have been using the prerelease packages I made this will be a downgrade (unfortunately I made a stupid mistake in versioning), so you will have to install it manually. You can grab it from htt