On Fri 03 Jan 2020 at 21:13:42 (-0500), Kenneth Parker wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:51 PM David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 02 Jan 2020 at 06:04:03 (-0500), Steve Litt wrote that usr-merge
> > causes problems with systems that are initramfs-free (and /usr is a
> > mounted
On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:51 PM David Wright
wrote:
> On Wed 01 Jan 2020 at 18:48:00 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
> > David Wright wrote:
> >
> > > But this does follow the (snipped) comment 'the "/usr Merge" that
> > > might hit a fan
somewhat
> entrenched.
Well, this *is* Debian, where often problems are discussed without
decision until either the problems are no longer a problem or one of the
discussion parties goes away.
But, to be fair, Debian is in a unique position in regard of the
usr-merge: Because it supports seamless
On Thu 02 Jan 2020 at 19:49:45 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 01 Jan 2020 at 18:48:00 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
> >> David Wright wrote:
>
> >>> But this does follow the (snipped) comment 'the "/usr Merge" tha
David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 01 Jan 2020 at 18:48:00 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
>> David Wright wrote:
>>> But this does follow the (snipped) comment 'the "/usr Merge" that
>>> might hit a fan someday'. For those *not* preparing packages for
&g
On Wed 01 Jan 2020 at 18:48:00 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
>
> > But this does follow the (snipped) comment 'the "/usr Merge" that
> > might hit a fan someday'. For those *not* preparing packages for
> > Debian and/or other
David Wright wrote:
> But this does follow the (snipped) comment 'the "/usr Merge" that
> might hit a fan someday'. For those *not* preparing packages for
> Debian and/or other distributions, can anyone express a downside
> to usr-merge, ie for typical "
:34PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > >> The usr-merge is already here, if you install Debian Buster [...]
> >
> > > > or upgrading from a non-user-merge installation :-)
> > >
> > > Sure. it is just a bit tedious to
On Saturday 07 September 2019 18:07:01 Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 03:58:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > The manifestation matches, but having read thru amanda's tools own
> > logs, on that machine, I am not so sure we've pointed the finger in
> > the right direction. From t
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 03:58:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> The manifestation matches, but having read thru amanda's tools own logs,
> on that machine, I am not so sure we've pointed the finger in the right
> direction. From the emailed backup report, it looks as if its crashed
> the instan
On Friday 06 September 2019 14:32:29 John Hasler wrote:
> Gene writes:
> > Firewall rule? I haven't run iptables on any of these machines
> > since forever but with systemd taking over, I've no clue how to
> > disable it if it is running. htop see's nothing that looks like
> > iptables, has it b
On Friday 06 September 2019 13:39:43 Charles Curley wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:30:30 +0100
>
> Tixy wrote:
> > Is the problem being talked about here different to amanda usr-merge
> > bug 939411 [1] which I saw that mentioned in another thread [2] ?
> >
> >
. /bin/rm -f ...).
> > >
> > > Why would that break ? Old paths are still valid, this is the
> >
> > purpose
> >
> > > of the symlinks.
> > >
> > > Before usr merge :
> > > /bin/rm -> ok
> > > /usr/bin/rm -> ko
> > &g
On Fri 06 Sep 2019 at 11:39:43 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:30:30 +0100
> Tixy wrote:
>
> > Is the problem being talked about here different to amanda usr-merge
> > bug 939411 [1] which I saw that mentioned in another thread [2] ?
> >
>
Gene writes:
> Firewall rule? I haven't run iptables on any of these machines since
> forever but with systemd taking over, I've no clue how to disable it
> if it is running. htop see's nothing that looks like iptables, has it
> been renamed?
Iptables is not a daemon. It is a tool for installin
On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:30:30 +0100
Tixy wrote:
> Is the problem being talked about here different to amanda usr-merge
> bug 939411 [1] which I saw that mentioned in another thread [2] ?
>
> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939411
> [2] https://lists.debian.
y see amanda itself breaking from usrmerge, if
> it
> > >> contains programs that try to invoke commands using their full
> > >> paths (e.g. /bin/rm -f ...).
> >
> > Why would that break ? Old paths are still valid, this is the
> purpose
> > of the symlinks.
ily see amanda itself breaking from usrmerge, if
> > > > it contains programs that try to invoke commands using their
> > > > full paths (e.g. /bin/rm -f ...).
> >
> > Why would that break ? Old paths are still valid, this is the
> > purpose of the syml
that try to invoke commands using their full
> >> paths (e.g. /bin/rm -f ...).
>
> Why would that break ? Old paths are still valid, this is the purpose
> of the symlinks.
>
> Before usr merge :
> /bin/rm -> ok
> /usr/bin/rm -> ko
>
> After usr merge :
> /b
contains programs that try to invoke commands using their full paths
> > > (e.g. /bin/rm -f ...).
>
> Why would that break ? Old paths are still valid, this is the purpose of the
> symlinks.
>
> Before usr merge :
> /bin/rm -> ok
> /usr/bin/rm -> ko
>
paths are still valid, this is the purpose of
the symlinks.
Before usr merge :
/bin/rm -> ok
/usr/bin/rm -> ko
After usr merge :
/bin/rm -> ok
/usr/bin/rm -> ok
Unless something is unable to follow symlinks.
FAILURE DUMP SUMMARY:
picnc / lev 0 FAILED [data timeout]
picnc / l
On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 10:06:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > I don't have a good reason to object to the usr merge, but its
> > causing amanda to crash the systems that have ha
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 10:06:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
>
> I don't have a good reason to object to the usr merge, but its causing
> amanda to crash the systems that have had this modification.
This is the part where you show us the error messages from t
Greetings all;
I don't have a good reason to object to the usr merge, but its causing
amanda to crash the systems that have had this modification.
I am trying tonight, an exclude scheme that should stop the crashing if
indeed that is what is doing it. But if it works, that means your 3
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