On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 05:01:30PM -0600, W Paul Mills wrote:
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> > None of these are easy to find, and not really what you are looking for,
> > so I can see why it's a bit frustrating.
> >
>
> Most likely the only way you will get it to install
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 05:05:27PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 05:31:59PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > It makes me rather reluctant to upgrade if some package that I have
> > come to rely on might unexpectedly disappear - perhaps unnoticed
> > until it is urgently needed..
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 05:31:59PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> It makes me rather reluctant to upgrade if some package that I have
> come to rely on might unexpectedly disappear - perhaps unnoticed
> until it is urgently needed...
Not to belabor the obvious, but no one seems to have pointed this
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Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:11 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 07:31:04PM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 17:37 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
Here is what it says:
>>> [...]
Main
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 21:46 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Mind you - it still looks like xlockmore and xearth disappeared from
> the official packages with only an automated acknowledgement that
> they are gone rather than an explanation:
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xlockmore/news/200611
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 11:55:38AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > Its not so much the removal of a package that disturbs me - it is
> > the apparent lack of warning or explanation.
>
> well, since it was removed from the official repositories in 2001:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/b
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:11 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 07:31:04PM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 17:37 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > > Here is what it says:
> > [...]
> > > Maintainer: Fabian Greffrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > That says it all
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 06:01:39PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Further to the loss of 'xv', 'xearth' and 'xlock' after my recent
> 'apt-get dist-upgrade' of my etch system
>
> I tried adding
> deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
> restricted
>
> To my '/et
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 05:31:59PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 04:59:40PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > > So what puzzles me is why it is no longer in 'non-free', and if
> > > it was removed because of some objection to the licensing terms,
> > > sur
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 07:31:04PM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 17:37 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > Here is what it says:
> [...]
> > Maintainer: Fabian Greffrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> That says it all, doesn't it?
Afraid the name doesn't mean anything to me.
> > I h
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 17:37 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Here is what it says:
[...]
> Maintainer: Fabian Greffrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
That says it all, doesn't it?
> I have tried google, and whilest I have found the same deb package
> that I have (or derivatives) elsewhere, I haven't found any
Further to the loss of 'xv', 'xearth' and 'xlock' after my recent
'apt-get dist-upgrade' of my etch system
I tried adding
deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
restricted
To my '/etc/apt/sources.list', and this does give me an 'xv' package to
try to install.
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 11:56:07AM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > Is there any way to check the origin of an deb archive in my
> > /var/cache/apt/archives?
>
> You could try
>
> dpkg-deb --info /var/cache/apt/archives/.deb
>
> As far as I know there is no standard field to denote the origin of
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 04:59:40PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > So what puzzles me is why it is no longer in 'non-free', and if
> > it was removed because of some objection to the licensing terms,
> > surely there should be something documenting this?
>
> It may have been re
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 00:17:29 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:37:01PM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > > So what puzzles me is why it is no longer in 'non-free', and if
> > > it was removed because of some objection to the licensing terms,
> > > surely there should be som
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:37:01PM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > So what puzzles me is why it is no longer in 'non-free', and if
> > it was removed because of some objection to the licensing terms,
> > surely there should be something documenting this??
>
> Are you quite sure it was in the offi
Digby Tarvin wrote:
> So what puzzles me is why it is no longer in 'non-free', and if
> it was removed because of some objection to the licensing terms,
> surely there should be something documenting this?
It may have been removed simply because no one was willing to maintain it
any more. That of
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 22:03 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> 1. John Bradley's xv program was in the debian archive for Etch
> when I installed it back in April:
> /var/cache/apt/archives/xv_3.10a-1duo+etch1_i386.deb
>
> 2. It is not there now.
>
> 3. When I referred to it not being in th
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 03:41:31PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 07:50:34PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 02:23:27AM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 05:28:55PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 07:50:34PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 02:23:27AM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 05:28:55PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > And xv I havn't found at all in the packages database :-/
> > >
>
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 11:01:00AM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 23:14:23 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I'm still stuck with the big red warning box complaining about the
> > missing public key for multimedia.org after an update, and I'm still
> > not clear i
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 09:47:20AM -0500, celejar wrote:
> On 12/28/06, Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >The page which I found indicating the removal of xearth from testing is
> > http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xearth.html
> >but it doesn't give any explanation of w
On 12/28/06, Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
The page which I found indicating the removal of xearth from testing is
http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xearth.html
but it doesn't give any explanation of why, and I am not sure where to
look next.
Should I be fetching the unst
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 23:14:23 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
[...]
> I'm still stuck with the big red warning box complaining about the
> missing public key for multimedia.org after an update, and I'm still
> not clear if this is normal and expected (which would be annoying), or
> something specif
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 07:50:34PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > was this before or after a successful upgrade?
> >
> > After a successful upgrade, but I haven't yet attempted
> > a 'dist-upgrade'..
>
> you might do that and see what it says.
I was trying to find a way to ease into
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 02:23:27AM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 05:28:55PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > It seems I am not out of the woods yet. I just tried executing
> > > apt-get install libx11-dev
> > > which is the package I needed to install in the first
I'm now trying to work out why
apt-get install libx11-dev
results in apt wanting to delete a large number of X related
packages...
I noted that 'gnome' was one of the packages to be removed
rather then upgraded to the latest version, so I tried
to force an upgrade to see if there was some
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 05:28:55PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > It seems I am not out of the woods yet. I just tried executing
> > apt-get install libx11-dev
> > which is the package I needed to install in the first place when I
> > got distracted onto upgrading my system..
>
> was
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 01:04:24AM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > > > > One of the things that bothered me about what aptitude wanted to do
> > > > > was that it included several packages it threatened to remove because
> > > > > they were 'no longer used'. I don't know how it decided this, as the
> > > > One of the things that bothered me about what aptitude wanted to do
> > > > was that it included several packages it threatened to remove because
> > > > they were 'no longer used'. I don't know how it decided this, as the
> > > > list included packages like 'xv' and 'xearth' which I explic
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 11:14:23PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 02:45:56PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > Is that last line what is needed to get aptitude back into
> > > sync? If not, how is that achieved?
> >
> > no, it won't. there are a variety of ways to do
Digby Tarvin wrote:
> What happens now is that after any attempt to issue a 'u' command in
> aptitude, I get an abort leaving me back in the command line (with a
> garbled display) and the error message:
> aptitude: symbol lookup error: aptitude: undefined symbol: _ZN9pkgPolicyD2Ev
http://bugs.de
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 02:45:56PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > Is that last line what is needed to get aptitude back into
> > sync? If not, how is that achieved?
>
> no, it won't. there are a variety of ways to do this. I prefer the
> method below where you watch for problems and fix t
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 09:33:10PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 01:02:25PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >
> > and then follow up with
> >
> > aptitude dist-upgrade
>
> Is that last line what is needed to get aptitude back into
> sync? If not, how is that achieve
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 01:02:25PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
> as you know, running apt-get and aptitude can cause a database to get
> out of sync...
Actually I have only recently become aware of this. I had previously
just thought of aptitude as a menu based front end for apt, so I
t
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 08:40:41PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
>
> I think that rather than letting aptitude loose to do everything
> it wants in one fell swoop, it might be more conservative to start
> with an
> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
as you know, running apt-get and aptitude can
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 11:36:10AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> Maintaining a system properly is, of course, subjective. If you use a
> volatile system and don't regularly upgrade, then you will have to face
> a massive upgrade and be prepared for the consequences. I bet those
> consequenc
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 02:42:13PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> http://www.debian-multimedia.org/faq.html
Actually I had read through that FAQ - that was where I got
the (non-working) instructions on obtaining the PGP key for
validating the multimedia signatures..
What was it you were trying to d
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 06:44:38PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
>
> Thanks - in that case I will give it a go. Just wanted to be sure
> everything looked normal before letting it run.
your caution is justified, don't get me wrong.
>
> I have had problems in the past after upgrades on gentoo which
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 19:06 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 01:04:52PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > W: There are no public key available for the following key IDs:
> > > A70DAF536070D3A1
> > > W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedi
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 01:04:52PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > W: There are no public key available for the following key IDs:
> > A70DAF536070D3A1
> > W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following
> > signa
> > tures couldn't
> >
> > One other thing that I am unsure about is that aptitude reports a number
> > of packages being 'held back'. I havn't intentionally asked for this,
> > could it have occured automatically or have I unintentionally done
> > something when initially learning to use aptitude?
>
> Hugo is righ
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 04:40 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> I am trying to get up the courage to update my debian etch system
> after a few months of neglecting to do so, but am dreading the thought of
> some mishap leaving the system unusable.
>
> The system was installed back in April, and is on a
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 04:40:19AM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> I am trying to get up the courage to update my debian etch system
> after a few months of neglecting to do so, but am dreading the thought of
> some mishap leaving the system unusable.
>
> The system was installed back in April, and i
Digby Tarvin wrote:
I am trying to get up the courage to update my debian etch system
after a few months of neglecting to do so, but am dreading the thought of
some mishap leaving the system unusable.
The system was installed back in April, and is on a Fujitsu P7120, and
aptitude produces quite
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 04:40:19AM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> One other thing that I am unsure about is that aptitude reports a number
> of packages being 'held back'. I havn't intentionally asked for this,
> could it have occured automatically or have I unintentionally done
> something when ini
I am trying to get up the courage to update my debian etch system
after a few months of neglecting to do so, but am dreading the thought of
some mishap leaving the system unusable.
The system was installed back in April, and is on a Fujitsu P7120, and
aptitude produces quite a long list of things
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