Re: Recommendations for data layout in case of multiple machines (Was: Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time)

2022-06-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 06:30:18PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: > Andy Smith writes: > > It's a way of working that's served me well for about 25 years. It's > > hard to imagine going back to having data spread all over the place. > > What do you use as your file server? Is it running 24/7 or s

Recommendations for data layout in case of multiple machines (Was: Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time)

2022-06-10 Thread Linux-Fan
Andy Smith writes: Hello, On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 11:30:26AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > For Gene, he could conceivably just rename the RAID setup that he has > mounted > under /home to some new top level mountpoint. (Although he probably has > some > scripts or similar stuff that l

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-06-10 at 02:54, gene heskett wrote: > On Friday, 10 June 2022 00:22:53 EDT David Wright wrote: >> >> On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 15:44:48 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: >>> Here is that partitioner menu snapshot, obtained by a network >>> ssh login, smunched to 81kb base-64'd. Showing that d-i d

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, 10 June 2022 00:22:53 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 15:44:48 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 11:04:15 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 03:46:12 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:33:33 EDT David

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread David Wright
On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 03:22:56 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2022-06-09 02:59 (UTC-0400): > > > Are you saying that I can partition this new drive with gparted and make > > the d-i use that? That would be the holy grail if so. > > This possibility became reality in antiq

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread David Wright
On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 15:44:48 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 11:04:15 EDT David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 03:46:12 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:33:33 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 16:24:02 (-0400), gen

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 9 June 2022 11:04:15 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 03:46:12 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:33:33 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 16:24:02 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:16:16 EDT Andrew

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 9 June 2022 11:03:52 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 03:31:30 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:34:28 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 08 Jun 2022 at 14:04:44 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 8 June 2022 08:33:56 EDT rhkr

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 9 June 2022 11:05:27 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 06:04:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 04:18:04 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 02:59:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:31:55 ED

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 11:30:26AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > For Gene, he could conceivably just rename the RAID setup that he has mounted > under /home to some new top level mountpoint. (Although he probably has some > scripts or similar stuff that looks for stuff in /home/ tha

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread rhkramer
I want to make a comment on this thread that is at least a little bit (maybe a lot) off point, it is more a suggestion on what might be a better way next time (although it could be done this time with a little work, I believe). Because I don't see a good place to put this comment in context, I'

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread David Wright
On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 06:04:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 04:18:04 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 02:59:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:31:55 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 16:07:13 (-040

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread David Wright
On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 03:46:12 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:33:33 EDT David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 16:24:02 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:16:16 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 02:17:08PM -040

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread David Wright
On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 03:31:30 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:34:28 EDT David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 08 Jun 2022 at 14:04:44 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 8 June 2022 08:33:56 EDT rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Or exchange the memory card (if you

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 9 June 2022 04:18:04 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 02:59:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:31:55 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 16:07:13 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:03:41 EDT

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 02:59:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:31:55 EDT David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 16:07:13 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:03:41 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:35:50 EDT David

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 9 June 2022 03:22:56 EDT Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2022-06-09 02:59 (UTC-0400): > > Are you saying that I can partition this new drive with gparted and > > make the d-i use that? That would be the holy grail if so. > > This possibility became reality in antiquity.

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:33:33 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 16:24:02 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:16:16 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 02:17:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > > Fourth: Use the text mode expert

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:34:28 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Wed 08 Jun 2022 at 14:04:44 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday, 8 June 2022 08:33:56 EDT rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Or exchange the memory card (if you have an appropriate card reader > > > for (one of) your computer(s))

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2022-06-09 02:59 (UTC-0400): > Are you saying that I can partition this new drive with gparted and make > the d-i use that? That would be the holy grail if so. This possibility became reality in antiquity. I never would have completed my first Debian installation attempt

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:31:55 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 16:07:13 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:03:41 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:35:50 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 14:17:08 (-0400), gene he

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-08 Thread David Wright
On Wed 08 Jun 2022 at 14:04:44 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Wednesday, 8 June 2022 08:33:56 EDT rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Or exchange the memory card (if you have an appropriate card reader for > > (one of) your computer(s))? > > I do. but dragging the card out of the camera's, all of the

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-08 Thread David Wright
On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 16:24:02 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:16:16 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 02:17:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Fourth: Use the text mode expert install. > > I have so far, but powered off to bail out when I couldn'

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-08 Thread David Wright
On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 16:07:13 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:03:41 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:35:50 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 14:17:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > But I've put another drive in, that I want to

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-08 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, 8 June 2022 08:33:56 EDT rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, June 07, 2022 04:24:02 PM gene heskett wrote: > > The D-I needs to grow the capability to mount an otherwise unused > > drive, and store as png's, snapshots of the screen. That way no one > > can accuse me of copy/paste

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-08 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, June 07, 2022 04:24:02 PM gene heskett wrote: > The D-I needs to grow the capability to mount an otherwise unused drive, > and store as png's, snapshots of the screen. That way no one can accuse > me of copy/paste fibbing. I can also take screen shots but the list > server, even if I co

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-07 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2022-06-07 16:07 (UTC-0400): > The only way I know how to do that is take a screen shot with my camera. > But thats not possible when running the D-I cuz w/o gimp, its at least 5 > megs bigger than the server will accept. BTDT. You have lots of computers. Surely at lea

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 04:24:02PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:16:16 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 02:17:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > But I've put another drive in, that I want to install a non efi > > > system on too. > > > > > > >

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:16:16 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 02:17:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > But I've put another drive in, that I want to install a non efi > > system on too. > > > > > > Ideas as to how to proceed? > > Hi Gene, > > First: get yourself an is

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:03:41 EDT gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:35:50 EDT David Wright wrote: > > I was sitting here rereading the thread "had another crash, reboot > > usb > > failed, powerdown reboot usb failed" when this came in: > > > > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 14:17:08 (-04

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 02:17:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > But I've put another drive in, that I want to install a non efi system on > too. > > > Ideas as to how to proceed? > Hi Gene, First: get yourself an iso with all the firmware on to start with. Second: Disconnect all your FTDI an

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:35:50 EDT David Wright wrote: > I was sitting here rereading the thread "had another crash, reboot usb > failed, powerdown reboot usb failed" when this came in: > > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 14:17:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > But I've put another drive in, that I want

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-07 Thread Dan Ritter
gene heskett wrote: > But I've put another drive in, that I want to install a non efi system on > too. > > booted back to bullseye to id the drive, its this one: (from dmesg) > [ 18.508537] ata5.00: ATA-11: Samsung SSD 870 QVO 1TB, SVQ02B6Q, max > UDMA/133 > === > [ 18.508541] ata5.

Re: trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-07 Thread David Wright
I was sitting here rereading the thread "had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed" when this came in: On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 14:17:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > But I've put another drive in, that I want to install a non efi system on > too. > > booted back to bullsey

trying to install bullseye for about 25th time.

2022-06-07 Thread gene heskett
But I've put another drive in, that I want to install a non efi system on too. booted back to bullseye to id the drive, its this one: (from dmesg) [7.366909] ata5: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 300) [7.374281] ata5.00: both IDENTIFYs aborted, assuming NODEV [7.686897] at