Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-07 Thread Anssi Saari
Noah Sombrero writes: > Specs say 32 mb external video memory, which says to me that it is > shared ram. But limited to 32 mb, so higher resolution should not > cause a problem? 1440*900*4 (assuming 32 bits per pixel) is less than 5 MB so no, shouldn't cause a problem. For sure video RAM is use

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 22:10:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero wrote: >On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 18:00:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero >wrote: > >>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 17:20:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero >>wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata >>> wrote: >>> Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-06 15:45 (UTC-0400): > It must simply be something about not being able to manage 1440x900 > resolution. It might be worth trying an in between resolution, e.g. 1280x800, which like 1440x900, is a 16:10 mode, unlike 1024x768, which is 4:3. In troubleshooting mod

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 18:00:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero wrote: >On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 17:20:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero >wrote: > >>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata >> wrote: >> >>>Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18 (UTC-0400): >>> Everything is ok until I load a program of any s

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-06 11:37 (UTC-0400): >>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 00:50:01 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >>>On all old limited >>>resource systems like this I automatically ease up the load by disabling >>>compositing > How can I do that? >>># cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-extensions.conf

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 17:20:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero wrote: >On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata > wrote: > >>Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18 (UTC-0400): >> >>> Everything is ok until I load a program of any size, pan, kmail, >>> thunderbird, worker file manager. Worker immed

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 05:40:01 +0200, David Wright wrote: >On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 13:09:57 (-0400), Noah Sombrero wrote: >> >> Finally, there is a caviat to all this. Laptops many times take a >> piece of motherboard ram for video ram, and larger resolutions take >> more video ram. That while deb

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18 (UTC-0400): > >> Everything is ok until I load a program of any size, pan, kmail, >> thunderbird, worker file manager. Worker immediately freezes up >> debian. This was not true at 1024x768. > >Us

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18 (UTC-0400): > Everything is ok until I load a program of any size, pan, kmail, > thunderbird, worker file manager. Worker immediately freezes up > debian. This was not true at 1024x768. Using which DE or WM? Konsole, Worker & MC are all running fine he

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread David Wright
On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 13:09:57 (-0400), Noah Sombrero wrote: > > Finally, there is a caviat to all this. Laptops many times take a > piece of motherboard ram for video ram, and larger resolutions take > more video ram. That while debian appears to take another piece of > ram for itself in a ramd

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 02:50:01 +0200, Charles Curley wrote: >On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 13:09:57 -0400 >Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> Finally, there is a caviat to all this. Laptops many times take a >> piece of motherboard ram for video ram, and larger resolutions take >> more video ram. That while debian

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 01:50:01 +0200, Brian wrote: >On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 15:43:02 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 21:20:01 +0200, Brian >> wrote: >> >> >On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 14:23:48 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 20:10:01 +0200, Greg Wooledge >

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 13:09:57 -0400 Noah Sombrero wrote: > Finally, there is a caviat to all this. Laptops many times take a > piece of motherboard ram for video ram, and larger resolutions take > more video ram. That while debian appears to take another piece of > ram for itself in a ramdisk.

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Brian
On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 15:43:02 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 21:20:01 +0200, Brian > wrote: > > >On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 14:23:48 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 20:10:01 +0200, Greg Wooledge > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >I think Arch uses it, and they have

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 21:20:01 +0200, Brian wrote: >On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 14:23:48 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 20:10:01 +0200, Greg Wooledge >> wrote: >> > >> >I think Arch uses it, and they have an extremely good wiki. Sometimes, >> >searching Google for the answer to a

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Brian
On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 14:23:48 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 20:10:01 +0200, Greg Wooledge > wrote: > > > >I think Arch uses it, and they have an extremely good wiki. Sometimes, > >searching Google for the answer to a Debian question will turn up a > >link to the Arch wiki.

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Brian
On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 14:00:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 06:39:45PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 12:51:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 12:17:14PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > > > > Yes, thanks, Dan. The issue now is a

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 20:10:01 +0200, Greg Wooledge wrote: >On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 06:39:45PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 12:51:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 12:17:14PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: >> > > Yes, thanks, Dan. The issue now is a way t

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 06:39:45PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 12:51:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 12:17:14PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > > > Yes, thanks, Dan. The issue now is a way to make the xrandr > > > adjustments permanent. The entry to .xp

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Brian
On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 12:51:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 12:17:14PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > > Yes, thanks, Dan. The issue now is a way to make the xrandr > > adjustments permanent. The entry to .xprofile did not work. Also not > > in .profile. > > To the best

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 18:40:02 +0200, Noah Sombrero wrote: >On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 17:00:01 +0200, Dan Ritter >wrote: > >>Felix Miata wrote: >>> Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 22:59 (UTC-0400): >>> >>> xrandr --newmode "2560x1080" 185.580 2560 2624 2688 2784 1080 1083 1093 >>> -

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 12:17:14PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > Yes, thanks, Dan. The issue now is a way to make the xrandr > adjustments permanent. The entry to .xprofile did not work. Also not > in .profile. To the best of my knowledge, Debian does not use ~/.xprofile when starting a standar

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 17:00:01 +0200, Dan Ritter wrote: >Felix Miata wrote: >> Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 22:59 (UTC-0400): >> >> xrandr --newmode "2560x1080" 185.580 2560 2624 2688 2784 1080 1083 1093 >> -HSync -VSync >> xrandr --addmode HDMI1 "2560x1080" >> xrand

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Felix Miata wrote: > Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 22:59 (UTC-0400): > > xrandr --newmode "2560x1080" 185.580 2560 2624 2688 2784 1080 1083 1093 > -HSync -VSync > xrandr --addmode HDMI1 "2560x1080" > xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode "2560x1080" > > Upthread you indicated

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 22:59 (UTC-0400): xrandr --newmode "2560x1080" 185.580 2560 2624 2688 2784 1080 1083 1093 -HSync -VSync xrandr --addmode HDMI1 "2560x1080" xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode "2560x1080" Upthread you indicated

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 22:20:01 +0200, The Wanderer wrote: >On 2022-04-04 at 15:40, Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter >> wrote: >> >>>Noah Sombrero wrote: I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-04-04 at 15:40, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter > wrote: > >>Noah Sombrero wrote: >>> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >>> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >>> display is offset to

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2022-04-04 at 15:32 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter > wrote: > > > Noah Sombrero wrote: > > > I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), > > > yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the > > > dis

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter wrote: >Noah Sombrero wrote: >> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >> display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any >> referenc

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter wrote: >Noah Sombrero wrote: >> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >> display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any >> referenc

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 19:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 08:40 (UTC-0400): > >> Thanks. I did find suggestions like this online. But it appears that >> xorg.conf is no longer used, and is indeed missing from xorg.conf.d. >> So I can simply create a new file w

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 12:20 (UTC-0400): >>> 2) must use all_generic_ide. This is suggested as an option by the >>> debian installer in the Special Situations section. >>Was this determination made years ago, or only just now with Debian 11? Some >>installation options are only a

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 17:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 08:09 (UTC-0400): > >> 1024x768 is the highest resolution offered by debian on my laptop. It >> is true that I got better with installations of ms server 2003 and win >> 7. > >When was this discovery fir

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 17:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 08:09 (UTC-0400): > >> 1024x768 is the highest resolution offered by debian on my laptop. It >> is true that I got better with installations of ms server 2003 and win >> 7. > >When was this discovery fir

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 08:09 (UTC-0400): > 1024x768 is the highest resolution offered by debian on my laptop. It > is true that I got better with installations of ms server 2003 and win > 7. When was this discovery first made, Debian 11, or some older release? If older release, whi

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 04, 2022 at 09:36:03AM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: [...] > >I suggest to try saving as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf, the > >following, [...] > Tried this, tried to save it. Response is that I do not have > permission to save a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ You've to be ro

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:10:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >I found this: > > >If this matches your laptop, the native display resolution is 1440x900, which >should be what we are shooting to acquire by our

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Dan Ritter
Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 15:10:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero > wrote: > > >On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter > >wrote: > > > >>Noah Sombrero wrote: > >>> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), > >>> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 08:30:01 +0200, "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >On Sun, Apr 03, 2022 at 09:31:54PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: >> >> I tried to install it with apt-get. >> The response I got asked "Are you root"? No, as I have reported in >> another thread, I don't seem to be able to get a root

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:10:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >I found this: > > >If this matches your laptop, the native display resolution is 1440x900, which >should be what we are shooting to acquire by our

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Apr 03, 2022 at 09:31:54PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > > I tried to install it with apt-get. > The response I got asked "Are you root"? No, as I have reported in > another thread, I don't seem to be able to get a root password. > -- > Noah Sombrero > Hi Noah, Did you install the lap

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Felix Miata
I found this: If this matches your laptop, the native display resolution is 1440x900, which should be what we are shooting to acquire by our efforts. If this is not a match, please provide your display

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread David Wright
On Sun 03 Apr 2022 at 20:41:39 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 18:04 (UTC-0400): > > > Bash says pastebinit command not found. > # aptitude search pasteb > p pastebinit - command-line pastebin client > # aptitude search hwinfo > p hwinfo

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 02:30:01 +0200, Charles Curley wrote: >On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:04:21 -0400 >Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> Bash says pastebinit command not found. > >charles@ideapc:~$ apt-cache search pastebinit >pastebinit - command-line pastebin client >charles@ideapc:~$ > >Usually diagnostic to

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 02:30:01 +0200, Charles Curley wrote: >On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:15:32 -0400 >Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> Bash says, hwinfo: command not found. > >charles@ideapc:~$ apt-cache search hwinfo >backupninja - lightweight, extensible meta-backup system >forensics-extra - Forensics Envi

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 18:04 (UTC-0400): > Bash says pastebinit command not found. # aptitude search pasteb p pastebinit - command-line pastebin client # aptitude search hwinfo p hwinfo - Hardware identification system # apt install

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:04:21 -0400 Noah Sombrero wrote: > Bash says pastebinit command not found. charles@ideapc:~$ apt-cache search pastebinit pastebinit - command-line pastebin client charles@ideapc:~$ Usually diagnostic tools and other programs folks on this list mention are available as a D

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:15:32 -0400 Noah Sombrero wrote: > Bash says, hwinfo: command not found. charles@ideapc:~$ apt-cache search hwinfo backupninja - lightweight, extensible meta-backup system forensics-extra - Forensics Environment - extra console components (metapackage) hwinfo - Hardware i

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 19:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 08:40 (UTC-0400): > >> Thanks. I did find suggestions like this online. But it appears that >> xorg.conf is no longer used, and is indeed missing from xorg.conf.d. >> So I can simply create a new file w

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 19:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 08:40 (UTC-0400): > >> Thanks. I did find suggestions like this online. But it appears that >> xorg.conf is no longer used, and is indeed missing from xorg.conf.d. >> So I can simply create a new file w

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 08:40 (UTC-0400): > Thanks. I did find suggestions like this online. But it appears that > xorg.conf is no longer used, and is indeed missing from xorg.conf.d. > So I can simply create a new file with these entries and put it in > place? /etc/X11/xorg.con* a

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 15:10:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero wrote: >On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter >wrote: > >>Noah Sombrero wrote: >>> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >>> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >>> display is

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter wrote: >Noah Sombrero wrote: >> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >> display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any >> referenc

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Noah Sombrero wrote: > I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), > yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the > display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any > reference on the web that shows how to adjust that, although there ar

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 03:20:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-02 20:35 (UTC-0400): > >> That is the desktop version. Mine is built into my toshiba laptop. >> Go5200 is the laptop version. Nvidia seems to use Go a lot to >> distinguish the difference between desk and

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-02 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-02 20:35 (UTC-0400): > That is the desktop version. Mine is built into my toshiba laptop. > Go5200 is the laptop version. Nvidia seems to use Go a lot to > distinguish the difference between desk and lap and, they do take > different drivers. NVidia may do that

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-02 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 01:00:02 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-02 17:21 (UTC-0400): > >> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >> display is offset to the top and the righ

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-02 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-02 17:21 (UTC-0400): > I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), > yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the > display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any > reference on the web that shows how

toshiba video problem

2022-04-02 Thread Noah Sombrero
I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any reference on the web that shows how to adjust that, although there are some before xrandr when xorg