Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-18 13:23:58, schrieb Jason Dunsmore: > I was wondering if there were references that support what you said > about security and Linux uptime (see below). Or was this just your > personal experience? Generaly a personal experience while reading the CAN/DSA. If you see, HOW a kernel can

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-19 Thread George Borisov
Jason Dunsmore wrote: > On 9/16/06, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Am 2006-09-15 09:47:12, schrieb Jason Dunsmore: >> >> > Can you give some references? Thanks. >> >> What references do you want? >> > > I was wondering if there were references that support what you said > about se

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-18 Thread Jason Dunsmore
On 9/16/06, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 2006-09-15 09:47:12, schrieb Jason Dunsmore: > Can you give some references? Thanks. What references do you want? I was wondering if there were references that support what you said about security and Linux uptime (see below). Or w

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-18 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-15 09:47:12, schrieb Jason Dunsmore: > Can you give some references? Thanks. What references do you want? You can check once per day and download the new Kernel sources or diffs if availlable. This is much faster thewn waiting on a Debian Kernel, and, - you can build it with make

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-15 Thread Jason Dunsmore
On 9/13/06, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 2006-09-10 14:12:51, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom: > Hi, > > http://klive.cpushare.com/2.6.11.6-procmail/ > shows that the system is up one year. > Not bad. FALSE! - Realy Bad! I run a Router/Firewall with Linux 2.4.32 and its uptime is cu

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/14/06 13:39, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-09-14 12:36:05, schrieb Ron Johnson: > >> Who's router is running Linux 2.4.32? > > 2.4.32 is much more stable then a 2.6.18 has less bugs and can > run with 12 MB of memory in embedded Systems for

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-14 12:36:05, schrieb Ron Johnson: > Who's router is running Linux 2.4.32? 2.4.32 is much more stable then a 2.6.18 has less bugs and can run with 12 MB of memory in embedded Systems for example. If you want to run a 2.6 then you need at least 24 MByte of memory and forced to upgrade s

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/13/06 07:19, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-09-10 16:45:04, schrieb Ron Johnson: > >> That is if the kernel is at (more than slight) risk of infection. > > Right > >> If you sit behind a firewalling router, don't run an httpd, an ftpd, >> e

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/13/06 07:21, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-09-10 18:32:09, schrieb Ron Johnson: >> On 09/10/06 17:54, Marc Wilson wrote: >>> Depends. Is the "firewalling router" the Linux box with the year uptime? >> No, it's a little Netgear RP614v2. > >

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-10 18:32:09, schrieb Ron Johnson: > On 09/10/06 17:54, Marc Wilson wrote: > > Depends. Is the "firewalling router" the Linux box with the year uptime? > > No, it's a little Netgear RP614v2. The 614 have security problems... I prefer the 834 since it run Linux... (source tarball avail

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-10 16:45:04, schrieb Ron Johnson: > That is if the kernel is at (more than slight) risk of infection. Right > If you sit behind a firewalling router, don't run an httpd, an ftpd, > etc, how much at risk are you? Extremly High! Since the Router/Firewall (AS) is currently a Debian sys

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-10 14:12:51, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom: > Hi, > > http://klive.cpushare.com/2.6.11.6-procmail/ > shows that the system is up one year. > Not bad. FALSE! - Realy Bad! I run a Router/Firewall with Linux 2.4.32 and its uptime is currently 55 days 22 hours which is the highest uptime I ev

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-10 Thread Robert Brockway
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: That is if the kernel is at (more than slight) risk of infection. If you sit behind a firewalling router, don't run an httpd, an ftpd, etc, how much at risk are you? As Marc Wilson said, it "depends". A local root exploit (in the kernel for example) c

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/10/06 17:54, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 04:45:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> If you sit behind a firewalling router, don't run an httpd, an ftpd, >> etc, how much at risk are you? > > Depends. Is the "firewalling router" th

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-10 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 04:45:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > If you sit behind a firewalling router, don't run an httpd, an ftpd, > etc, how much at risk are you? Depends. Is the "firewalling router" the Linux box with the year uptime? -- Marc Wilson | The advertisement is the most truth

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.09.06 14:12, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > http://klive.cpushare.com/2.6.11.6-procmail/ > shows that the system is up one year. > Not bad. I (and not only me) hate the 32-bit time counter in 2.4 kernels... it wraps after something over 497 days, so in 'ud' output I had to add 1st highest time (49

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/10/06 16:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:12:51PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Hi, >> >> http://klive.cpushare.com/2.6.11.6-procmail/ >> shows that the system is up one year. >> Not bad. >> > Actually, I would say th

Re: system is up 1 year

2006-09-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:12:51PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > http://klive.cpushare.com/2.6.11.6-procmail/ > shows that the system is up one year. > Not bad. > Actually, I would say that it is very bad: http://secunia.com/product/2719/?task=advisories_2006 There are 31 security adv

system is up 1 year

2006-09-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, http://klive.cpushare.com/2.6.11.6-procmail/ shows that the system is up one year. Not bad. H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]