Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 5:09 AM Tom Browder wrote: > > I am preparing servers to use with OpenSMTPD and Sympa to provide mail and mailing list service. ... After considering all the suggestions, I have prepared a plan, using a bit of pseudo code, to describe what I believe I need to do. Interest

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 11:04 AM Henning Follmann wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 08:47:36AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 08:37 Henning Follmann ... > For years I operated a couple of sendmail installations. That and the > O'Reilly Sendmail book tought me a lot. > Today

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Feb 2020 at 12:36:38 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:05 PM Brian wrote: > > On Fri 21 Feb 2020 at 11:22:58 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 09:36 Brian wrote: > ... > > Thanks, I will read the page in detail later. Meanwhile, I did a qu

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:36 PM Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:05 PM Brian wrote: > > Thanks, I will read the page in detail later. Meanwhile, I did a quick > > search on the page for "mailname" and didn't get anything. Anyway, what > > I really wanted to know was what function

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:05 PM Brian wrote: > On Fri 21 Feb 2020 at 11:22:58 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 09:36 Brian wrote: ... > Thanks, I will read the page in detail later. Meanwhile, I did a quick > search on the page for "mailname" and didn't get anything. Anywa

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Feb 2020 at 11:22:58 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 09:36 Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 21 Feb 2020 at 05:09:47 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > > ... > | > I need to settle on names to define as the "mailname" for each the two > > > > servers I will designate for the DN

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 09:36 Brian wrote: > On Fri 21 Feb 2020 at 05:09:47 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > ... | > I need to settle on names to define as the "mailname" for each the two > > servers I will designate for the DNS MX records for all my mail-enabled > > domains. The mailnames should be

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 08:47:36AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 08:37 Henning Follmann > wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:38:45PM +0100, john doe wrote: > > ... > > > Don't do THAT! > > > > RFC2181 section 10.3 says you can't point your MX record to a CNAME > > >

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Feb 2020 at 05:09:47 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > I am preparing servers to use with OpenSMTPD and Sympa to provide mail and > mailing list service. > > I need to settle on names to define as the "mailname" for each the two > servers I will designate for the DNS MX records for all my mai

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 08:37 Henning Follmann wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:38:45PM +0100, john doe wrote: ... > Don't do THAT! > > RFC2181 section 10.3 says you can't point your MX record to a CNAME > Maybe that's why Namecheap has the MXE record that points to an IP. Besides the rele

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:38:45PM +0100, john doe wrote: > On 2/21/2020 12:09 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > > I am preparing servers to use with OpenSMTPD and Sympa to provide mail and > > mailing list service. > > > > I need to settle on names to define as the "mailname" for each the two > > servers I

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Joe
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 06:46:59 -0600 Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:29 Joe wrote: > > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 06:00:14 -0600 > > Tom Browder wrote: > > ... > > > > As I understand it, a mail server has to use smtp to physically > > > transfer mail between physical hosts and th

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:29 Joe wrote: > On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 06:00:14 -0600 > Tom Browder wrote: ... > > As I understand it, a mail server has to use smtp to physically > > transfer mail between physical hosts and that requires one name that > > will resolve to an IP. Even if the server is h

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Tom Browder (2020-02-21 13:17:52) > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:00 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Hi tom, > > > ... > > > > Does anyone have strong reasons to use one over another, or any other > > > > choice? > > > ... > > > Depends on the purpose of the name(s). > > ... > > Thanks, Jo

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:17 Michael Howard wrote: ... > I don't know your use case but using 'regular' names like smtp.example.com, > imap.example.com, pop3.example.com etc, help with the auto config > processes used on devices, thus making it easier for users to setup > accounts on their devic

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Joe
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 06:00:14 -0600 Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 05:39 john doe wrote: > ... > > > I might be missing something here but the domain name is what you > > buy/what you get. > > > Note I own (techically it's more of a rental or lease) multiple > domains hosted ac

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:00 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Hi tom, > ... > > Does anyone have strong reasons to use one over another, or any other > > choice? > ... > Depends on the purpose of the name(s). ... Thanks, Jonas, that makes good sense. Based on that I should use "mail" and maybe "mai

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Michael Howard
On 21/02/2020 11:09, Tom Browder wrote: I am preparing servers to use with OpenSMTPD and Sympa to provide mail and mailing list service. I need to settle on names to define as the "mailname" for each the two servers I will designate for the DNS MX records for all my mail-enabled domains. The

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi tom, Quoting Tom Browder (2020-02-21 12:09:47) > I am preparing servers to use with OpenSMTPD and Sympa to provide mail > and mailing list service. > > I need to settle on names to define as the "mailname" for each the two > servers I will designate for the DNS MX records for all my > mail-

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 05:39 john doe wrote: ... > I might be missing something here but the domain name is what you > buy/what you get. Note I own (techically it's more of a rental or lease) multiple domains hosted across multiple servers which I also fully control (no sharing, full root cont

Re: Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread john doe
On 2/21/2020 12:09 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > I am preparing servers to use with OpenSMTPD and Sympa to provide mail and > mailing list service. > > I need to settle on names to define as the "mailname" for each the two > servers I will designate for the DNS MX records for all my mail-enabled > domai

Choice of "mailname" for mail server: suggestions welcome

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Browder
I am preparing servers to use with OpenSMTPD and Sympa to provide mail and mailing list service. I need to settle on names to define as the "mailname" for each the two servers I will designate for the DNS MX records for all my mail-enabled domains. The mailnames should be "fully qualified domain n

Re: suggestions welcome

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.16.0329 +0100]: > > "kernel-image-2.2.20" (you don't want to run < 20, and 2.4 isn't > > ready for production in many peoples' opinion (i use it for > > production though)). > > IMHO, the added flexibility of iptables beats makes 2.4 safer than 2

Re: suggestions welcome

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.16.0329 +0100]: > IMHO, the added flexibility of iptables beats makes 2.4 safer than 2.2 > - just just need to set up uptables Right. i agree with you fully. iptables has the potential to be called a firewall. ipchains is a level 4 packet filter.

Re: suggestions welcome

2002-01-15 Thread Adam Majer
On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 01:00:30AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach justin cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1907 +0100]: > > Given the above details what's the best way to approach the project? > > to add just what you want, so you will probably want to add "ssh" and > maybe s

Re: suggestions welcome

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach justin cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.16.0226 +0100]: > Thanks a bunch Martin! Your response was exactly what I was looking > for. no prob. i do it this way all the time. let us know if you have any problems... -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.

RE: suggestions welcome

2002-01-15 Thread justin cunningham
Thanks a bunch Martin! Your response was exactly what I was looking for. -Original Message- From: martin f krafft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:01 PM To: Subject: Re: suggestions welcome also sprach justin cunningham <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: suggestions welcome

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach justin cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1907 +0100]: > Given the above details what's the best way to approach the project? easy: install, but when asked about tasksel and/or dselect, select "no" both times. i don't recall what exactly is in this vanilla system that you'll th

suggestions welcome

2002-01-15 Thread justin cunningham
Hi, I want to build a mail server using a woody iso I burnt and wanted suggestions for the best way to approach the install. My main concern is security and not installing extraneous packages-- something the base install seems to do i.e. games. I also wanted to make my own kernel using the kernel