Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread Sean Morgan
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 12:29:51PM +1000, Ian Perry wrote: > :>OK, the two messages previous posts kind of play off eachother so I'm > :>going to reply to them in one go. First off ext2, it has a really bad > :>habit of losing files in hard crashes and power outages, this isn't a > :>problem for s

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread D-Man
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 09:07:43PM -0700, Forrest English wrote: | you could tell the people that this is a more advanced OS, and to NOT hit | the power switch. | | i mean, it's just a thought. It's a nice thought, but since when do people actually listen? I know that with my machine I don't _

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread Forrest English
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Sean Morgan wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 09:07:43PM -0700, Forrest English wrote: > > you could tell the people that this is a more advanced OS, and to NOT hit > > the power switch. > > > > i mean, it's just a thought. > > And after this you would have to proceed to tea

RE: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread Ian Perry
:25 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 02:03:02AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: :Sean Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>OK, the two messages previous posts kind of play off eachother so I'm :>

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread Sean Morgan
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 09:07:43PM -0700, Forrest English wrote: > you could tell the people that this is a more advanced OS, and to NOT hit > the power switch. > > i mean, it's just a thought. And after this you would have to proceed to teach a class in operating consoles, top, killall, and al

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 02:03:02AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: :Sean Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>OK, the two messages previous posts kind of play off eachother so I'm :>going to reply to them in one go. First off ext2, it has a really bad :>habit of losing files in hard crashes and power ou

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread John Hasler
D-Man writes: > I've only had 1 problem with my system where I had to run fsck and I've > hit the power button a few times... How is your system partitioned? In my experience the systems most likely to be hosed by a power failure or hard reset are those with a single giant partition. -- John Has

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread Ed Falis
On Monday 04 June 2001 23:42, Sean Morgan wrote: > > The situation I'm reffering to here is that of someone who might see a > temporary interface slowdown or crash(happen quite often in office suites > of any kind), and having no knowledge of how linux works, just hits the > reset button(this could

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread Colin Watson
Sean Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >OK, the two messages previous posts kind of play off eachother so I'm >going to reply to them in one go. First off ext2, it has a really bad >habit of losing files in hard crashes and power outages, this isn't a >problem for someone like you or I as we know

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 12:29:51PM +1000, Ian Perry wrote: :I have been running Linux 2.0.36 for the past year on 3 sites and have had :ext2 go down on each of them after a power failure. I'd guess the nonbootability was the result of a head crash, and had nothing to do with the filesystem softwar

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread D-Man
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 11:58:53AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: | D-Man writes: | > I've only had 1 problem with my system where I had to run fsck and I've | > hit the power button a few times... | | How is your system partitioned? In my experience the systems most likely | to be hosed by a power fa

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread Forrest English
you could tell the people that this is a more advanced OS, and to NOT hit the power switch. i mean, it's just a thought. i've never had a problem with ext2, and there are power outages here all the time, and my ups is to weak to handle more than my server and dsl router. somtimes i've had to r

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-06-07 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 11:42:18PM -0400, Sean Morgan wrote: :The situation I'm reffering to here is that of someone who might see a temporary :interface slowdown or crash(happen quite often in office suites of any kind), :and having no knowledge of how linux works, just hits the reset button(th

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-31 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:27:43PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > "Steve R. Hastings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Corel is selling the whole WordPerfect Office suite, which includes > > WordPerfect and Quattro Pro. > > Note that last I checked, there's no commitment to ongoing support of > thi

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-31 Thread Alan Shutko
Renai LeMay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It only has a very small section on kword, which after all, is currently one > of the best Linux word processors out there. That's not saying much. Does KWord have a decent printing/font architecture yet? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a vari

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-30 Thread Renai LeMay
I would suggest that that review is a little old. It only has a very small section on kword, which after all, is currently one of the best Linux word processors out there. If you want my advice (I'm a journalist and sysadmin), Kword is fast, free and approaching stability. It's now useable for

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-30 Thread Kevin Ross
LinuxPlanet has a side-by-side review of all the word processors for Linux, including: StarOffice 5.2 WordPerfect 9 AbiWord Applix Words Maxwell KWord (part of KOffice, for KDE) The review is at: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/1762/1/ -- Kevin

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-30 Thread Alan Shutko
"Steve R. Hastings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Corel is selling the whole WordPerfect Office suite, which includes > WordPerfect and Quattro Pro. Note that last I checked, there's no commitment to ongoing support of this product, there was almost no support of WP8, and getting fixes for any nu

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-30 Thread Steve R. Hastings
Corel is selling the whole WordPerfect Office suite, which includes WordPerfect and Quattro Pro. http://linux.corel.com/products/wpo2000_linux/index.htm The suite is about $150 a copy. buy.com has a 5-pack which is a better deal, but it is back-ordered. There is also Applix: http://www.v

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-22 Thread Sean Morgan
First of all, let me apologize to everyone on the list for knocking the signal/noise ratio out of whack, I'll stop saying inflamitory things after this post. >If you are going to have to foot the financial burden for even a small network >using Microsoft products (you said 12) the cost is rather

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-22 Thread joe golden
From: "J.A.Serralheiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: joe golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:36:34 +0100 (WET DST) hi. Just installed staroffice in my computer. Believe it or not, my computer is (Still) a 48

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-22 Thread John Foster
If you are going to have to foot the financial burden for even a small network using Microsoft products (you said 12) the cost is rather prohibitive if you are depending on local budgets. I suspect that is the reason for seeking a replacement rather than "evangelizing" Linux. It is just for this re

Re: Repost (Re: lyx (was Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel))

2001-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, May 21, 2001 at 03:19:10PM +1000, Matthew Dalton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > > > That doesn't work for me. I've found in the past that Google uses > > distributed servers, on which content may vary. Could you resubmit the > > URL above resolving a numeric I

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-21 Thread Bob Nielsen
I'm running WP 8.1, which came bundled with Corel Linux 1.0 (not free, but $25 on a closeout at Costco, with a "Tux" toy and a $10 rebate--I bought it just for WP and the manual). This version came as a .deb and works very nicely. I don't see that problem. Bob On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 09:15:08AM

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-21 Thread V.Suresh
Word Perfect works find in my machine. While I was in Redhat, had d/l it as .tar format. And it just installs perfectly in Debian too. And I have found a bug or something too. When I type the word "miniscule" followed by a space, wp8 immediately crashes and disappers from screen. I don't

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-21 Thread Andre Berger
* Joel Mayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2001-05-21 09:12 +0200: > Has any one here used LyX, I got on to it a couple of months ago and > It is the best word procesor I have every used, and not to difficult > to learn, as it's a "what you see is what is mean" procesor it > would let the students concentr

Re: Repost (Re: lyx (was Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel))

2001-05-21 Thread Matthew Dalton
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > That doesn't work for me. I've found in the past that Google uses > distributed servers, on which content may vary. Could you resubmit the > URL above resolving a numeric IP for your local Google server? Try: http://216.239.35.100/search?q=cache:dc3d113b15c77caf:www

Re: Repost (Re: lyx (was Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel))

2001-05-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, May 21, 2001 at 02:20:52PM +1000, Matthew Dalton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Sorry about the last post... my fingers slipped on the 'send mail' kb > shortcut. That's what I get for using Netscape messenger... > > "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > - What happened to Klyx? The homepage is 40

Repost (Re: lyx (was Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel))

2001-05-20 Thread Matthew Dalton
Sorry about the last post... my fingers slipped on the 'send mail' kb shortcut. That's what I get for using Netscape messenger... "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > - What happened to Klyx? The homepage is 404 > http://www.lyx.org/~ettrich/klyx.html, and its parent suggest it > won't come back

Re: lyx (was Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel)

2001-05-20 Thread Matthew Dalton
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: > - What happened to Klyx? The homepage is 404 > http://www.lyx.org/~ettrich/klyx.html, and its parent suggest it > won't come back any time soon http://www.lyx.org/~ettrich/ > (K'mon, people: > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html). Luc

lyx (was Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel)

2001-05-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:42:01PM +1000, Joel Mayes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:35:50PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: > > On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 10:11:04PM -0400, Sean Morgan wrote: > > > StarOffice, neither of these are as stable as Office on NT4. The > >

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread Sean Morgan
OK, the two messages previous posts kind of play off eachother so I'm going to reply to them in one go. First off ext2, it has a really bad habit of losing files in hard crashes and power outages, this isn't a problem for someone like you or I as we know how to recover them, for a student with no

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread Joel Mayes
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:35:50PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 10:11:04PM -0400, Sean Morgan wrote: > > StarOffice, neither of these are as stable as Office on NT4. The > > From my experience, t

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread Cameron Matheson
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 10:11:04PM -0400, Sean Morgan wrote: > StarOffice, neither of these are as stable as Office on NT4. The From my experience, that is *completely* untrue. I have never had either of th

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 10:11:04PM -0400, Sean Morgan wrote: > . . . WordPerfect or StarOffice, neither of these are as stable as > Office on NT4. I've never had SO or WP8 crash on me since I set up this system. Granted, WP9 is incredibly unstable. > The stability of the filesystem is also a ma

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread Sean Morgan
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 04:53:19PM +, joe golden wrote: > I am trying to switch our small (12 machine) NT network over to Linux. Some > of the main computer applications at our school are web browsing , word > processing and spreadsheets (MS Internet Explorer, Word and Excel). > > I am runn

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 01:06:00PM -0700, D. Hoyem wrote: > For Word Processing what about Word Perfect 8? There > is a Linux version and it is free, I'm not sure that > it will work on Debian though. Its a tar.gz file, not > sure about the depends. It will work on Debian, if you install pac

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread John Galt
On Sun, 20 May 2001, D. Hoyem wrote: >For Word Processing what about Word Perfect 8? There >is a Linux version and it is free, I'm not sure that >it will work on Debian though. Its a tar.gz file, not >sure about the depends. When they came out with Corel Linux, they made a .deb file for WP8. I

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, May 20, 2001 at 04:53:19PM +, joe golden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I am trying to switch our small (12 machine) NT network over to Linux. > Some of the main computer applications at our school are web browsing, > word processing and spreadsheets (MS Internet Explorer, Word and > Exce

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread D. Hoyem
For Word Processing what about Word Perfect 8? There is a Linux version and it is free, I'm not sure that it will work on Debian though. Its a tar.gz file, not sure about the depends. --- joe golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to switch our small (12 machine) NT > network over to Lin

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread Forrest English
i think star office is going to be your best bet as far as word proccessing and graphing goes. though, koffice might work, i havn't used it in a long time, and it seemd nice enough then, so it might work for you now. might want to think of using one of the newer mozilla builds. they're fast enou

Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hey, I personally like Mozilla a lot better than Netscape, and if you're looking for something w/ quick load times, use galeon. It uses the gecko rendering engine, and it has a pretty slick interface. StarOffice probably would be the best solution for your office replacement. It also has a brows

small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-20 Thread joe golden
I am trying to switch our small (12 machine) NT network over to Linux. Some of the main computer applications at our school are web browsing , word processing and spreadsheets (MS Internet Explorer, Word and Excel). I am running Linux debian 2.2.18pre21 and just updated last week. Netscape ma