On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 04/19/2016 12:49 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > On 04/16/2016 03:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >>
> >> Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15
> >> April 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as
> >> announced
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 04/16/2016 03:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15
> > April 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as
> > announced months ago, finally ceased support for its browser o
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 08:30:43AM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> You are missing that the change to systemd makes most of the knowledge
> patiently acquired over the years running and caring for a Linux system has
> suddenly become unusable.
As a former sysadmin wrangling frankly horrid in-house
On 04/19/2016 12:49 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 04/16/2016 03:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April
2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced
months ago, finally ceased support for its browser on Wheezy. I
On 04/16/2016 03:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April 2016, the beginning of the
end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced months ago, finally ceased support for its browser on
Wheezy. I double checked just to be sure, and in the
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 05:19:46PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, Bob Holtzman wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:23:08PM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:48:56 -0700
> > > Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +10
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:23:08PM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:48:56 -0700
> > Bob Holtzman wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> > > > P
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Michael Milliman wrote:
>
>
> On 04/17/2016 06:59 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Michael Milliman wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 04/16/2016 07:52 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> choice of inits as a standard option during installs on future
> >> releases,
ut of me as well...
>>
>> It seems the emotions, even now, are running too high to be simply
>about
>> "if it ain't broke don't fix it". What am I missing?
>>
>> Mark
>
>All the pros and cons of system.d have been discussed and ranted abou
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:23:08PM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:48:56 -0700
> Bob Holtzman wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> > > Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > >
> > > > Much to my regret
On Apr 17, 2016, at 5:30 AM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:48:16 +
> Mark Fletcher wrote:
>
>> It seems the emotions, even now, are running too high to be simply about
>> "if it ain't broke don't fix it". What am I missing?
>
> You are missing that the change to sy
On 04/17/2016 06:59 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Michael Milliman wrote:
On 04/16/2016 07:52 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
choice of inits as a standard option during installs on future
releases, but I very much doubt it.
B
I use Linux Mint on one of my machines. It is ini
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:48:56 -0700
Bob Holtzman wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> > Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15
> > > April 2016, the beginning o
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Michael Milliman wrote:
>
>
> On 04/16/2016 07:52 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> > >choice of inits as a standard option during installs on future
> >> > >releases, but I very much doubt it.
> >> > >
> >> > >B
> >> > >
> > >
> I use Linux Mint on one of my machines. It is i
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Go Linux wrote:
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> From: Patrick Bartek
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
> >
> > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15
> &g
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April
> > 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced
> > months ago, finall
On Sunday, April 17, 2016, Renaud OLGIATI
wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:48:16 +
> Mark Fletcher > wrote:
>
> > It seems the emotions, even now, are running too high to be simply about
> > "if it ain't broke don't fix it". What am I missing?
>
> You are missing that the change to systemd mak
sily found in the archives. I personally don't think that it is
necessary to go through those discussions again.
Easily one can slip some emotional comment [sigh!] (sic) into a posting but it
is unnecessary to jump on it - no?
Yeah, IMHO the emotionalism is anti-productive. I have my o
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:48:16 +
Mark Fletcher wrote:
> It seems the emotions, even now, are running too high to be simply about
> "if it ain't broke don't fix it". What am I missing?
You are missing that the change to systemd makes most of the knowledge
patiently acquired over the years runn
of system.d have been discussed and ranted about here
and can be easily found in the archives. I personally don't think that it is
necessary to go through those discussions again.
Easily one can slip some emotional comment [sigh!] (sic) into a posting but it
is unnecessary to jump on it - no?
All the best to y'all
Eike
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM Michael Milliman <
michael.e.milli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've never really
> liked systemd, though I must admit it does work and do the job -- I just
> like the simplicity of the init system better. Admittedly, I may well
> be undereducated on systemd resulting
On 04/16/2016 07:52 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >choice of inits as a standard option during installs on future
> >releases, but I very much doubt it.
> >
> >B
> >
>
I use Linux Mint on one of my machines. It is init based, not systemd,
and has Debian and Ubuntu as it's underpinnings. All o
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15
> > April 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as
> > announced months ago, finally ceased support for
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
Patrick Bartek wrote:
> Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April
> 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced
> months ago, finally ceased support for its browser on Wheezy. I
> double checked just to be s
Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April 2016, the
beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced months ago, finally
ceased support for its browser on Wheezy. I double checked just to be sure,
and in the course of that check also discovered "official"
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 12:21:16AM +0200, Nicolas Kratz wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 01:20:57PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> > Since X works on clean installations, I'm pretty sure deleting/moving
> > out of the way /etc/.X* would fix this.
>
> My wa would be greatly disturbed if there were .X* fi
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 01:20:57PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> Since X works on clean installations, I'm pretty sure deleting/moving
> out of the way /etc/.X* would fix this.
My wa would be greatly disturbed if there were .X* files in my /etc. ;-)
Cheers,
Nick
--
x-
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 12:03:26AM +0200, Nicolas Kratz wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 04:34:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Up-to-date sid installation w/ working X:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ll /tmp/.X11-unix/ -a
> > > total 16
> > > drwxrwxrwt2 root root 4
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 04:34:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Up-to-date sid installation w/ working X:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ll /tmp/.X11-unix/ -a
> > total 16
> > drwxrwxrwt2 root root 4096 Mar 24 03:19 .
> > drwxrwxrwt9 root root12288 Mar 30 2
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 10:46:58PM +0200, Nicolas Kratz happened to mention:
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 03:23:44PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > "X: /tmp/.X11-unix has suspicious ownership (not root:root), aborting."
> >
> > dang, I thought. So I do my googling, and found some others have
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 03:23:44PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "X: /tmp/.X11-unix has suspicious ownership (not root:root), aborting."
>
> dang, I thought. So I do my googling, and found some others have asked
> this question with the response of basically "well, do what it says and
>
Hey folks,
I have recently tried to strip down my system of the fluff I've been
accumulating over the years, then reinstall things as I need them.
Well, upon reinstalling X, I now get an error
"X: /tmp/.X11-unix has suspicious ownership (not root:root), aborting."
dang, I thought. So I
On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 03:17, Andreas Goesele wrote:
...
> You are now connected to database template1 as user postgres.
> CREATE DATABASE "accounts" WITH TEMPLATE = template0 ENCODING = 'LATIN1';
> ERROR: CREATE DATABASE: database "accounts" already exists
> You are now connected to database accou
Jason Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > CREATE USER "user" WITH SYSID 1 CREATEDB CREATEUSER;
> > ERROR: CREATE USER: sysid 1 is already assigned
> ^^^
>
> Sysid 1 is probably assigned to the user postgres created by the
> install. To get you
Andreas Goesele wrote:
I had big problems going from 6.5 to 7.1 and now going from 7.1.3-7
again doesn't go smooth. (On an up do date woody.) The problem seems
to be related to the fact that I call myself "user" (fanciful name,
isn't it?), but shouldn't one be free to call the users as one likes
I had big problems going from 6.5 to 7.1 and now going from 7.1.3-7
again doesn't go smooth. (On an up do date woody.) The problem seems
to be related to the fact that I call myself "user" (fanciful name,
isn't it?), but shouldn't one be free to call the users as one likes?
Anyway how can I get my
ct I
> should be working on and I can't do that until I get the
> system up.
>
> I sincerly hope this is making some sense, if not blame the
> time. *sigh*
Gnome isn't a Window Manager. Gnome is a Desktop Environment which can
use a variety of window managers. So in
until I get the
> system up.
>
> I sincerly hope this is making some sense, if not blame the
> time. *sigh*
>
i had the exact same thing after installing potato..2.2r5.
i broke out by: apt-get install enlightenment. then i had a usable system
which i almost immediately upgraded
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 06:46:58AM -0800, SJ wrote:
> > I'm really not sure what I did wrong, but...
> >
> > After doing an apparently clean install of debian linux on a
> > new system, Gnome does not come up Window Maker does. I
> > know we installed Gnome but it's not even in the list of
> >
Brett Parker wrote:
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 06:46:58AM -0800, SJ wrote:
I'm really not sure what I did wrong, but...
After doing an apparently clean install of debian linux on a
new system, Gnome does not come up Window Maker does. I
know we installed Gnome but it's not even in the list of
Wi
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 06:46:58AM -0800, SJ wrote:
> I'm really not sure what I did wrong, but...
>
> After doing an apparently clean install of debian linux on a
> new system, Gnome does not come up Window Maker does. I
> know we installed Gnome but it's not even in the list of
> Window Manager
sted there). Any idea what I may have done wrong, or not
done, in setting up the system? I would really like to get
this monster working. I have a db development project I
should be working on and I can't do that until I get the
system up.
I sincerly hope this is making some sense, if not blame
On Wed, 2002-01-23 at 05:42, Timothy C. Fanelli wrote:
> Well -- I'm still on the list... the saga continues - for the record, I've
> unsubscribed about 13 times today.
>
Have you tried to unsunscribe from the web page?
Andrea
Well -- I'm still on the list... the saga continues - for the record, I've
unsubscribed about 13 times today.
I went and searched /. for the article that someone (forget who) mentioned
about slackware fading away (just to calm my own nerves a little bit) --
What was out there is a reference to an
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001, Adriano Peluso wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Ok, I run the rsync process and it took half a day.
>
> When at 99% I got a "file corrupted. Moved while tranferring?" message.
>
> I looked at the server and the dir 2.2_rev2 I was downloading from had been
> removed ands substitute
Hello all,
Ok, I run the rsync process and it took half a day.
When at 99% I got a "file corrupted. Moved while tranferring?" message.
I looked at the server and the dir 2.2_rev2 I was downloading from had been
removed ands substituted with 2.2_rev3
but the new one was still empty.
So I try
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:38:30AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
| on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:31:09PM -0400, D-Man ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
| > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 06:11:14PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
| > | For starters, you have to find out whether or not you've got a WinModem.
| > | If
on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:31:09PM -0400, D-Man ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 06:11:14PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> | on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:45:28PM -0700, GPswyft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> |
> | > I install linux from the floppies.
> |
> | Which version? I'm
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 06:11:14PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:45:28PM -0700, GPswyft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> First, there's documentation which covers this, the Modem-HOWTO, which
> you can find at http://www.linuxdocs.org/.
>
hi daniel...
another silly idea...
if the idea is to get cdrom capability to the laptop...
there is pcmcia-to-IDE converters... ( $10 range )
( used by flash disks to look like regular IDE disks
( used on pc104 stuff...but it was pcmcia card interface we used
- you'd also need a pcmcia extend
hi again...
oopps re-reading...
if you wanna burn cdroms... yeah...prices of them is slightly higher...(
$60-$75 range for silly ide stuff )...
but if you need debian cdroms, why not get um $3.oo range from places
like cheapbytes.com or other places that sell linux iso images
c ya
alvin
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001, Alvin Oga wrote:
>
> hi ya GP...
>
> what kind of problems did you encounter ???
>
> - use the debian boot floppy to boot debian..
> ( trick is to get it online ... get a (default) supported ethernet card...
> - than get it online and apt-get update, upgrade...
>
>
hi ya GP...
what kind of problems did you encounter ???
- use the debian boot floppy to boot debian..
( trick is to get it online ... get a (default) supported ethernet card...
- than get it online and apt-get update, upgrade...
- ebay bids of $80 - $90 for cdroms is ridiculous...
GPswyft writes:
>Well, here goes. I have installed debian a number of
>times, never successfully.
[...]
>I install linux from the floppies.
[...]
>I can't do this with a cd because i said before I don't own a cd
>burner.
[...]
GP,
Consider using an external CD-ROM connected to the parallel
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 06:11:14PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
| on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:45:28PM -0700, GPswyft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
|
| > I install linux from the floppies.
|
| Which version? I'm going to assume Debian GNU/Linux 2.1, "Potato".
I assume that's a typo and you meant
GPswyft writes:
> I try to hook up to the net using a PPP connection and my isp and the
> computer can't seem to find the modem. It asks for a manual port. Now,
> I've gone through a number of them, but I can't seem to make a
> conncection to the net.
What kind of modem do you have? Please tell
on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:45:28PM -0700, GPswyft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I install linux from the floppies.
Which version? I'm going to assume Debian GNU/Linux 2.1, "Potato".
> The main problem is that I am tryig to install it on a computer I got
> from the school library when they got
Well, here goes. I have installed debian a number of
times, never successfully. When I go bakc into the
installation to fix something, I have to redo
everything. That gets tedious when your doing it from
floppies :-( (no cd burner for me). Well, here is my
problem, and if anyone has time to hel
After much struggle I've got myself a nicely working 64k connection,
but like very many before me MPPP has me beat! I found the ISDNUTILS
scripts and docs impenetrable, and came up with scripts based on a
couple of HOWTOs I came across.
This is my script to configure the connection:
MYUSER=robi
have you tried the creative opensource site???
http://opensource.creative.com/
You will find the latest daily source snapshots for the SB Live card. I
managed to get it working at home.
Jason
>
> Hello fellow coneheads.
>
> I have a soundblaster 1024 Live, and I cant seem to get it
> working.
Hello fellow coneheads.
I have a soundblaster 1024 Live, and I cant seem to get it working. I tried
Alsa, but no support was given (I have Potato 2.2, kernel 2.2.14), so I went
to www.alsa.org downloaded the latest alsa drivers and programs, recompiled
tried to install and I get a module dependenc
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Charles Lewis wrote:
>I have similar problems periodically, although I'm on potato and my
>sources.list is pointing to http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde contrib rkrusty.
>I just try again later (sometimes a couple of days) and eventually I get
>through. I understand they are look
I have similar problems periodically, although I'm on potato and my
sources.list is pointing to http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde contrib rkrusty.
I just try again later (sometimes a couple of days) and eventually I get
through. I understand they are looking for a stable home for tdyc.
==
Hi
anyone know whats going on at debian.tdyc.org ?
am trying to get slink kde stuff from there and it is a bloody nightmare :p
all sorts of errors and clitches
any mirrors of the current stuff on it?
--
Best Regards
Dave
-
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:14:52 -0500 (EST)
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: printing to a win95 shared printer *sigh*
> >
> > Richard A Nelson writes:
> > >
> >
ubject: Re: printing to a win95 shared printer *sigh*
>
> Richard A Nelson writes:
> >
> > Has anyone setup lprng to print to a win95 shared printer?
> > The printer in question is a HP DeskJet 870.
> >
> > I've been printing to the printer locally, but had
Richard A Nelson writes:
>
> Has anyone setup lprng to print to a win95 shared printer?
> The printer in question is a HP DeskJet 870.
>
> I've been printing to the printer locally, but had to move the printer
> to a box that runs mostly lose 95.
If you haven't already installed SAMBA, you shoul
On 09-Jan-99 Richard A Nelson wrote:
>
> Has anyone setup lprng to print to a win95 shared printer?
> The printer in question is a HP DeskJet 870.
>
> I've been printing to the printer locally, but had to move the printer
> to a box that runs mostly lose 95.
>
I am under the impression that th
Has anyone setup lprng to print to a win95 shared printer?
The printer in question is a HP DeskJet 870.
I've been printing to the printer locally, but had to move the printer
to a box that runs mostly lose 95.
Thanks,
--
Rick Nelson
>>
>> *DOH*
>>
>> the day after jens found a solution to let me ppp, I managed to put
>> down my laptop sideways, crunching the connector on the cable--it now
>> features a 90 degree bend :) and the connectors are broken.
>>
>> This is one of those two flat prongs inline.does anyone know
*DOH*
the day after jens found a solution to let me ppp, I managed to put
down my laptop sideways, crunching the connector on the cable--it now
features a 90 degree bend :) and the connectors are broken.
This is one of those two flat prongs inline.does anyone know a
likely source?
rick
On Tue, 5 May 1998, James A. Bates wrote:
> Hello,
>
>I am new to Linux and haven't the slightest idea how it works,
> really. I'm attempting to install Debian later today. I have so many
> questions, it's sad. :-)
Well, this is the place to ask them. :->
>First, let me tell you about
Hi!
Ok lets see...
your hardware should be fine...I dont know about that sound card tho
(BTW
I have been advised to stay away from anything by SIIG...cheap stuff)
SOund is usually something you might wanna wait a while to setup :) it
can be
confusing.
My best advice is to take it slow at first...ch
Hello,
I am new to Linux and haven't the
slightest idea how it works, really. I'm attempting to install Debian later
today. I have so many questions, it's sad. :-)
First, let me tell you about my
hardware, etc., in case anyone knows if anything is not supported by
Linux:
Proces
On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Alan Woo wrote:
> Hey all,
> i edited the file etc, and i got quite far, but it still doesn't work,
> it says something like error 333, cannot start server... agh!!
Send me your /etc/X11/XF86Config file. Also, send me the output of
"ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/".
Hey all,
i edited the file etc, and i got quite far, but it still doesn't work,
it says something like error 333, cannot start server... agh!!
i need a professional to install this for me. Anyone live in Toronto??
hehe. .
okay, if anyone can help,
it'd be great,
thanks,
Alan W
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Matt Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> An old problem cropped up, tho. I don't have colors in my xterms anymore.
> My xsysinfo has colors just fine, but not my xterms. I never had to
> adjust anything with bo (except to edit /etc/profile with alias ls="ls
> --color", which I've done).
In o
Matt Thompson wrote:
> Hi, y'all,
>
> Well, got bash 2.01-5 and gimp 0.99 installed and working. I'm finding
> out that I have to upgrade to the hamm versions of just about everything,
> like fvwm2 and emacs. That's ok. 'Been doing it all by dpkg instead of
> dselect, now that I'm comfortable
Hi, y'all,
Well, got bash 2.01-5 and gimp 0.99 installed and working. I'm finding
out that I have to upgrade to the hamm versions of just about everything,
like fvwm2 and emacs. That's ok. 'Been doing it all by dpkg instead of
dselect, now that I'm comfortable with that.
An old problem cropped
sorry about another color-xterm question, but root seems to have all
colors in xterm (dir=blue,jpg=green, etc.) but my user (mattyt) only has
blue for dir and white for everything else.
???
matty
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Alexander Koch writes:
> Hi guys...
>
> What is the difference between bo/binary-all and bo/binary-i386 ??
Everything behind the 'binary' means a different architecture.
i386 is for intel based machines 'alpha' for alpha based ones.
'all' is a placeholder for binaries that are equal on all archit
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