Re: serial console

2025-08-07 Thread Anssi Saari
27;t work in Grub. Also there was some weirdness in which slot the card would deign to work and I think sound got disabled. Not a problem for a headless file server though. But yes, I have a "serial console" on that PC where I can, once Linux has booted, log in over the serial line. I can

Re: serial console

2025-08-04 Thread Joe
On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 14:15:22 - (UTC) Greg wrote: > On 2025-08-04, wrote: > > > > Note that 'serial console' in Linux usually designates the system's > > boot up messages, that also can be picked-off some pins and watched > > remote. The non-X use

Re: serial console

2025-08-04 Thread Greg
On 2025-08-04, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Aug 04, 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 04, 2025 at 10:48:00AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: >>=20 >> > If you're thinking of the physical DE9 port that was typically used for >> > connecting "Serial" peripheral devices, you are absolutely correc

Re: serial console

2025-08-04 Thread Dan Purgert
On Aug 04, 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Mon, Aug 04, 2025 at 10:48:00AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > If you're thinking of the physical DE9 port that was typically used for > > connecting "Serial" peripheral devices, you are absolutely correct that > > it is now pretty much defunct in f

Re: serial console

2025-08-04 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Mon, Aug 04, 2025 at 10:48:00AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > If you're thinking of the physical DE9 port that was typically used for > connecting "Serial" peripheral devices, you are absolutely correct that > it is now pretty much defunct in favor of the Universal Serial Bus. > That being said,

Re: serial console

2025-08-04 Thread Dan Purgert
On Aug 04, 2025, Greg wrote: > On 2025-08-04, wrote: > > > > Note that 'serial console' in Linux usually designates the system's > > boot up messages, that also can be picked-off some pins and watched > > remote. The non-X user interface entered by [alt]

Re: serial console

2025-08-04 Thread Greg
On 2025-08-04, wrote: > > Note that 'serial console' in Linux usually designates the system's > boot up messages, that also can be picked-off some pins and watched > remote. The non-X user interface entered by [alt]+[F] is called > 'Linux console'. I

Re: serial console

2025-08-04 Thread hohe72
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 01:38:15 +0100 "mick.crane" wrote: > > If anyone is applying the term “serial” to a parallel port or a > > device that has parallel output, that would seem wrong to me. > > serial console/ parallel is likely me not understanding termin

Re: serial console

2025-08-01 Thread Dan Ritter
al port. These days, I think > most of them run sshd or equivalent in the BIOS? Serious servers implement IPMI or a close relative (iDRAC, ILO...) to connect to a BMC, a separate tiny computer with an ethernet port, and has some combination of features like: - serial console to the main system

Re: serial console

2025-08-01 Thread Mike Castle
On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 5:57 PM Andy Smith wrote: > Note that Raspberry Pi is capable of running a full operating system so > most people would have it run one like Linux and manage it over SSH > rather than use the USB for a serial console. They might have other uses > for the USB

Re: [OT] direct knowledge of mercury delay line memory (was: Re: serial console)

2025-07-31 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 01:13:47PM -0700, Michael Paoli wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 10:32 AM Alain D D Williams wrote: > > I do not know anyone who has direct knowledge of mercury delay line memory > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory > > I think my dad still does. > I believe

[OT] direct knowledge of mercury delay line memory (was: Re: serial console)

2025-07-31 Thread Michael Paoli
On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 10:32 AM Alain D D Williams wrote: > I do not know anyone who has direct knowledge of mercury delay line memory > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory I think my dad still does. I believe some of the first computers he used had mercury delay line memory. He's 90

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 01:58:35PM +0100, John Dow wrote: > It worries me that knowledge of these things (and UARTs and character vs > block devices and any number of other things) is likely to die out with us > old farts :) I do not know anyone who has direct knowledge of mercury delay line me

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 31 July 2025 08:58:35 am John Dow wrote: > It worries me that knowledge of these things (and UARTs and character vs > block devices and any number of other things) is likely to die out with us > old farts :) > That's why I still have the books that talk about all of that stuff...

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 7/31/25 9:39 AM, John Hasler wrote: Minicomputers often did not have physical consoles: everything was done via serial ports. When there were multiple serial ports IIRC one of them was identified as the console. And IBM Midrange Systems, from the S/34 on, used EBCDIC-based terminals, usin

[Off topic] Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread John Hasler
Dan writes: > On the radio side (yet another too expensive hobby, BTW), it's the old > farts going "why would you want to try building something when you can > just buy a $20 radio that just mostly works?" As an older fart I recall it as younger "appliance operators" saying that. -- John Hasler

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread John Hasler
Greg writes: > I think the term "serial console" came into vogue around the time > Linux and the BSDs started to be used on personal computers. Minicomputers often did not have physical consoles: everything was done via serial ports. When there were multiple serial ports IIRC

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread Larry Martell
On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 8:19 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2025, mick.crane wrote: > > I've never really known what a serial console is. > > Say in relation to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino > > Skipping a *LOT* of history (and linguistics, etc), a "seri

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread John Dow
> On 31 Jul 2025, at 14:40, Dan Purgert wrote: > > Depends a little bit. On the radio side (yet another too expensive > hobby, BTW), it's the old farts going "why would you want to try > building something when you can just buy a $20 radio that just mostly > works?" (well, you see, /Richard/[1

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jul 31, 2025, John Dow wrote: > > > On 31 Jul 2025, at 13:45, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > On Jul 31, 2025, mick.crane wrote: > >> I've never really known what a serial console is. > >> Say in relation to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino > > > &g

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (HE12025-07-31): > I think the term "serial console" came into vogue around the time > Linux and the BSDs started to be used on personal computers. This is my understanding too. > Administratively, the console often has special privileges. It shows > messa

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 08:45:19 -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Jul 31, 2025, mick.crane wrote: > > I assumed a serial console was a device with a screen and keyboard. > > If you're thinking of things like the VT-100; I believe that the > physical device would be ref

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread John Dow
> On 31 Jul 2025, at 13:45, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2025, mick.crane wrote: >> I've never really known what a serial console is. >> Say in relation to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino > > Skipping a *LOT* of history (and linguistics, etc), a "serial cons

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jul 31, 2025, mick.crane wrote: > I've never really known what a serial console is. > Say in relation to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino Skipping a *LOT* of history (and linguistics, etc), a "serial console" is a "console" (user interface) provided remotely to the d

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-31, Karen Lewellen wrote: > I will add that for some users with a hardware tool the serial console > provided > access to adaptive technology programs of many types. We'll have to tell Gene about this. > Karen > > > >

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread Michael Paoli
, or one could connect as-is to use such for two Raspberry Pis to be able to directly communicate over such. In the land of Linux, though there may be more serial devices, the first two are /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttyS1. Those are the first and second serial ports, and can be used as serial console

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread jeremy ardley
On 31/7/25 16:41, Joe wrote: RS-485 and RS-422 use cables with a specified impedance, unlike RS-232, so can work over much longer distances and/or at higher speeds. I've had RS-485 working over a kilometre of cable at 9600 Baud. RS-232/V-24 is only really reliable over about twenty metres at it

Re: serial console

2025-07-31 Thread Joe
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 09:49:37 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: > On 31/7/25 08:08, Steve Dondley wrote: > > > >> On Jul 30, 2025, at 7:59 PM, mick.crane > >> wrote: > >> > >> I've never really known what a serial console is. > >> Say in re

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 08:46:49PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 01:38:15 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > > serial console/ parallel is likely me not understanding terminology. > > These Raspberry Pis, Arduinos with the connection with all the pins, what >

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread jeremy ardley
On 31/7/25 08:48, Steve Dondley wrote: serial console/ parallel is likely me not understanding terminology. These Raspberry Pis, Arduinos with the connection with all the pins, what protocol is that expecting? mick I’ve only played with arduino once and never a Raspberry pi (I think it has a

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread jeremy ardley
On 31/7/25 08:08, Steve Dondley wrote: On Jul 30, 2025, at 7:59 PM, mick.crane wrote: I've never really known what a serial console is. Say in relation to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino I assumed a serial console was a device with a screen and keyboard. When people talk about a serial co

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread Karen Lewellen
I will add that for some users with a hardware tool the serial console provided access to adaptive technology programs of many types. Karen

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-07-31 01:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 01:38:15 +0100, mick.crane wrote: serial console/ parallel is likely me not understanding terminology. These Raspberry Pis, Arduinos with the connection with all the pins, what protocol is that expecting? A serial cable

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread jeremy ardley
On 31/7/25 09:02, jeremy ardley wrote: On 31/7/25 07:59, mick.crane wrote: I've never really known what a serial console is. Say in relation to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino I assumed a serial console was a device with a screen and keyboard. When people talk about a serial console the

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread James Cloos
>>>>> "mc" == mick crane writes: mc> serial console/ parallel is likely me not understanding terminology. mc> These Raspberry Pis, Arduinos with the connection with all the pins, mc> what protocol is that expecting? those ports use serial. check out: ht

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread jeremy ardley
On 31/7/25 07:59, mick.crane wrote: I've never really known what a serial console is. Say in relation to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino I assumed a serial console was a device with a screen and keyboard. When people talk about a serial console they are talking about connecting a Debian PC

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 08:48:05PM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: > > > > serial console/ parallel is likely me not understanding terminology. > > These Raspberry Pis, Arduinos with the connection with all the pins, what > > protocol is that expecting? > > mick >

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 01:38:15AM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > serial console/ parallel is likely me not understanding terminology. > These Raspberry Pis, Arduinos with the connection with all the pins, what > protocol is that expecting? Raspberry Pis and Arduinos are normally talki

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread Steve Dondley
> > How many pins does it have? If it’s a 9 pin arranged in two rows then it’s > definitely a serial port. If it’s got 15 pins in three rows it’s probably a > vga serial port for the monitor. > Correction: VGA carries analog signals, so it’s not a serial cable carrying raw bytes like a 9 pi

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread Steve Dondley
> > serial console/ parallel is likely me not understanding terminology. > These Raspberry Pis, Arduinos with the connection with all the pins, what > protocol is that expecting? > mick I’ve only played with arduino once and never a Raspberry pi (I think it has a ton of differen

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 01:38:15 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > serial console/ parallel is likely me not understanding terminology. > These Raspberry Pis, Arduinos with the connection with all the pins, what > protocol is that expecting? A serial cable usually has a 9-pin (DB-9) connecto

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-07-31 01:08, Steve Dondley wrote: On Jul 30, 2025, at 7:59 PM, mick.crane wrote: I've never really known what a serial console is. Say in relation to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino I assumed a serial console was a device with a screen and keyboard. When people talk about a serial co

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 00:59:02 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > When people talk about a serial console they are talking about connecting a > Debian PC to a device with a parallel, wired cable to a parallel port or an > adaptor on a PC and emulating this console thing with software? > L

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 12:59:02AM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > I've never really known what a serial console is. The name is a bit of history. When I connected to a large computer in the 1970s I did so using an AR 33 teletype, this was a largely mechanical device with a keyboard and print

Re: serial console

2025-07-30 Thread Steve Dondley
> On Jul 30, 2025, at 7:59 PM, mick.crane wrote: > > I've never really known what a serial console is. > Say in relation to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino > I assumed a serial console was a device with a screen and keyboard. > When people talk about a serial console they are t

serial console

2025-07-30 Thread mick.crane
I've never really known what a serial console is. Say in relation to a Raspberry Pi or Arduino I assumed a serial console was a device with a screen and keyboard. When people talk about a serial console they are talking about connecting a Debian PC to a device with a parallel, wired cable

Re: FTDI USB Serial Console

2024-10-20 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
пн, 21 окт. 2024 г. в 09:43, Timothy M Butterworth : > I have the following device: > Bus 003 Device 010: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd > FT232 Serial (UART) IC > > I expect the device to show up as: /dev/ttyUSB0 but i am not finding any > ttyUSB devices in /dev. Do

Re: FTDI USB Serial Console

2024-10-20 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 12:25 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:33 PM Timothy M Butterworth > wrote: > > > > I have the following device: > > Bus 003 Device 010: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices > International, Ltd FT232 Serial (UART) IC > > > > I expect the device to

Re: FTDI USB Serial Console

2024-10-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:33 PM Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > I have the following device: > Bus 003 Device 010: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd > FT232 Serial (UART) IC > > I expect the device to show up as: /dev/ttyUSB0 but i am not finding any > ttyUSB devices i

FTDI USB Serial Console

2024-10-20 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
I have the following device: Bus 003 Device 010: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 Serial (UART) IC I expect the device to show up as: /dev/ttyUSB0 but i am not finding any ttyUSB devices in /dev. I Googled around some and found that the drivers for this device have

Re: serial console install

2022-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Mon 21 Nov 2022 at 13:02:13 (-0500), jeanrocco jr wrote: > Hello, I just installed debian-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso on my APU2E4, which > does not have a vga display but only a serial console. > > I could not find any documentation in Debian regarding the "Debian > GNU/Linux

serial console install

2022-11-21 Thread jeanrocco jr
Hello, I just installed debian-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso on my APU2E4, which does not have a vga display but only a serial console. I could not find any documentation in Debian regarding the "Debian GNU/Linux installer boot menu" where you have to type H (help), then TAB and type &quo

Installing Debian using serial console error 'Undefined video mode'

2020-05-14 Thread john doe
Debians, I'm trying to troubleshoot what I'm doing rong when trying to install Debian through serial console. If I start a Qemu VM like so: qemu-system-x86_64 -cdrom debian-bullseye-DI-alpha2-amd64-netinst.iso -nographic -vga none -m 1024 At the Debian install prompt pressing the

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 09:03:33PM +0300, Jarle Aase wrote: > Hi, > > I was just about to order some usb2serial hardware when I read this. [...] > I'll try it when I get the first server assembled. Thanks a lot! Hey, glad to help :-) - -- t -BEG

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-09 Thread Jarle Aase
rds every time. Some times I am far away when this happens [...] An interesting alternative to the serial console thing is baking in an SSH server into the initramfs. There are small SSH servers built for that, like Dropbear. Upside is that you don't need any additional hardware and it's pret

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-09 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Freitag, 9. September 2016 08:15:37 PYT Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2016-09-09 at 08:46 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > > I've used USB-to-serial adapters with the Prolific chipset. They've > > worked fine for me, in various models. (I haven't tried FTDI and am > > suspicious of them.) > > And my exper

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-09 Thread tomas
deal with. So my servers will have > to be started at least a few times every quarter. [...] > That means that I need to reboot the servers relatively often, and > provide the luks passwords every time. Some times I am far away when > this happens [...] An interesting alternative to t

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-09 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2016-09-09 at 08:46 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > I've used USB-to-serial adapters with the Prolific chipset. They've > worked fine for me, in various models. (I haven't tried FTDI and am > suspicious of them.) And my experience is the opposite. I have genuine (there's apparently a lot of

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-08 Thread Lars Noodén
enever I need to. If I could log on to the grub console on > the servers over a serial link, that's all I need, really. > > Does anyone here have any experience with remote control with Debian > boxes over serial? Will it work reliable? Quite a while back (Etch) I had some Debia

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 08 Sep 2016, Jarle Aase wrote: > Does anyone here have any experience with remote control with Debian boxes > over serial? Will it work reliable? It's fairly reliable; I actually prefer it to using KVM in almost all cases. You just need to get it configured properly in grub, the bios, and

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-08 Thread Neal P. Murphy
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 15:43:31 -0600 Glenn English wrote: > For remote access, the RPi sounds like a good idea to me. I've had one on the > 'Net for several years, doing things not requiring major CPU power. It's on > my UPS, and it's had no reliability problems. > > A relatively small dedicated

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-08 Thread Glenn English
For remote access, the RPi sounds like a good idea to me. I've had one on the 'Net for several years, doing things not requiring major CPU power. It's on my UPS, and it's had no reliability problems. A relatively small dedicated UPS would likely keep your border router and an RPi going for quit

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-08 Thread Neal P. Murphy
o. If I could log on to the grub console on > the servers over a serial link, that's all I need, really. > > Does anyone here have any experience with remote control with Debian > boxes over serial? Will it work reliable? Generally speaking.... I haven't used a seri

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-08 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 9/8/16 3:26 PM, Jarle Aase wrote: I want to set up a few servers at home. Unfortunately, as I live in Bulgaria at the moment, the electric power is gone pretty often for longer periods than my UPS'es can deal with. So my servers will have to be started at least a few times every quarter.

Re: Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-08 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 10:26:59PM +0300, Jarle Aase wrote: > I want to set up a few servers at home. Unfortunately, as I live in Bulgaria > at the moment, the electric power is gone pretty often for longer periods > than my UPS'es can deal with. So my servers will have to be started at least > a f

Using serial console as a poor mans IP kvm?

2016-09-08 Thread Jarle Aase
I want to set up a few servers at home. Unfortunately, as I live in Bulgaria at the moment, the electric power is gone pretty often for longer periods than my UPS'es can deal with. So my servers will have to be started at least a few times every quarter. Another challenge with living in Bulgar

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-08 Thread Sven Hartge
Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 11:47:56 -0400 (EDT), Sven Hartge wrote: >> Looks fine, from a cursory glance. >> >> Maybe you can add a section about using >> >>"systemctl cat serial-getty@ttyS0.service" >> >> to verfiy that the override.conf has been >> read successfully aft

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-08 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 18:08:05 -0400 (EDT), Bob Bernstein wrote: > > What a great contribution! > > My null-modem cable ought to still be around here somewhere! > > :-) I try to focus on the latest technology. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `-

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-07 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 11:47:56 -0400 (EDT), Sven Hartge wrote: > > Looks fine, from a cursory glance. > > Maybe you can add a section about using > >"systemctl cat serial-getty@ttyS0.service" > > to verfiy that the override.conf has been > read successfully after "systemctl daemon-reload". D

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-07 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 7 Sep 2015, Stephen Powell wrote: I just finished updating my web page to reflect the new information. Once again, go to http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/serial.htm What a great contribution! My null-modem cable ought to still be around here somewhere! :-) -- Bob Bernstein

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-07 Thread Sven Hartge
Stephen Powell wrote: > Sven and Michael, please review this also and correct me if I made a > mistake. I do not want to publish bad advice. Looks fine, from a cursory glance. Maybe you can add a section about using "systemctl cat serial-getty@ttyS0.service" to verfiy that the override.conf ha

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-07 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 09:56:12 -0400 (EDT), David Parker wrote: > > Thanks for all the clarification. I now find myself in need of doing this > again on another server running Jessie, and I just want to make sure I'm > clear on what the best procedure is. > ... I just finished updating my web page

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-07 Thread David Parker
Hello, Thanks for all the clarification. I now find myself in need of doing this again on another server running Jessie, and I just want to make sure I'm clear on what the best procedure is. As I understand it, I should copy /lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service to /etc/systemd/system/serial

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-06 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 16:06:35 -0400 (EDT), Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 06.09.2015 um 21:04 schrieb Stephen Powell: >> ... >>[Service] >>ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -8 --noclear %I 38400 ibm3151 >> >> But when I restart the service, I get the following error: >> >> systemd[1]: serial-getty@ttyS0

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-06 Thread Christian Seiler
Hello Michael, On 09/06/2015 10:06 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > See also man 5 systemd.unit , "Example 2. Overriding vendor settings": > >>Note that for drop-in files, if one wants to remove entries from a >> setting that is >>parsed as a list (and is not a dependency), such as >>

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-06 Thread Sven Hartge
Stephen Powell wrote: > Well, Sven, that's a nice idea, but I can't get it to work for me in this > situation. I issued >systemctl edit serial-getty@ttyS0.service > and placed the following two lines into the file: >[Service] >ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -8 --noclear %I 38400 ibm3151

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-06 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 06.09.2015 um 21:04 schrieb Stephen Powell: >[Service] >ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -8 --noclear %I 38400 ibm3151 > > But when I restart the service, I get the following error: > > systemd[1]: serial-getty@ttyS0.service: Service has more than one ExecStart= > setting, which is only allow

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-06 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 02 Sep 2015 17:29:40 -0400 (EDT), Sven Hartge wrote: > > systemd provides a way to override or ammend parts of units. You do this > by creating a directory structure like this: > > /etc/systemd/system/foo.service.d/ > > This will contain all additional config files for the unit > "foo.

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-04 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 20:06:43 -0400 (EDT), Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 03.09.2015 um 03:14 schrieb Stephen Powell: >> Do you know a similar technique for overriding individual udev rules in >> a system-provided rules file? > > A similar mechanism exists for udev rules file. > See man 7 udev -> "RU

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 03.09.2015 um 03:14 schrieb Stephen Powell: > Do you know a similar technique for overriding individual udev rules in > a system-provided rules file? A similar mechanism exists for udev rules file. See man 7 udev -> "RULES FILES" -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent l

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Stephen Powell wrote: > Do you know a similar technique for overriding individual udev rules in > a system-provided rules file? Ah, that part is a white spot on my (mind)map. Maybe Michael Biebl can provide more input, as one of the DDs maintaining systemd and udev he should be able to provide

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-02 Thread Stephen Powell
t; Also note how a later "TTYVTDisallocate=no" overrides the earlier > "TTYVTDisallocate=yes". > > You can also use "systemd-delta" to check which units have overrides or > extentions. And with newer systemd (Stretch and newer) you can even use > &q

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-02 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 02 September 2015 23:29:40 Sven Hartge wrote: > Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 September 2015 20:58:29 Sven Hartge wrote: > >> David Parker wrote: > >>> Thanks. I actually found that site in a Google search, and it's where > >>> I found the tip on copying the > >>> /lib/sy

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-02 Thread Sven Hartge
Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Wednesday 02 September 2015 20:58:29 Sven Hartge wrote: >> David Parker wrote: >>> Thanks. I actually found that site in a Google search, and it's where >>> I found the tip on copying the >>> /lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service template file to customize >>> the

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-02 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 02 September 2015 20:58:29 Sven Hartge wrote: > David Parker wrote: > > Thanks. I actually found that site in a Google search, and it's where > > I found the tip on copying the > > /lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service template file to customize > > the baud rate, etc. Specifica

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-02 Thread Sven Hartge
David Parker wrote: > Thanks. I actually found that site in a Google search, and it's where > I found the tip on copying the > /lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service template file to customize > the baud rate, etc. Specifically, I found the info I needed at: > http://users.wowway.com/~zlinu

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-02 Thread David Parker
Thanks. I actually found that site in a Google search, and it's where I found the tip on copying the /lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service template file to customize the baud rate, etc. Specifically, I found the info I needed at: http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/serial.htm#Systemd Thanks!

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-01 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 12:13:56 -0400 (EDT), David Parker wrote: > > I have a bunch of Debian Wheezy servers set up with the console available > via the serial port. Generally, I just add this line to /etc/inittab: > ... > That's all fine and good, but when I try to do this on my desktop PC > runnin

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-01 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael Biebl wrote: > As for overriding the system provided service files, I usually recommend > to use drop-ins, i.e. creating a > /etc/systemd/system/foo.service.d/my_custom_config.conf > This way you only need to override what you are actually interested in. Users of Testing/Stretch or Unsta

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-01 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 01.09.2015 um 19:31 schrieb David Parker: > Thanks, Michael! That was indeed the problem. I > copied /lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service to /etc/systemd/system, > edited it to use the correct baud rate and terminal type, and then ran > "systsystemctl start serial-getty@ttyS0.service" an

Re: Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-01 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 01.09.2015 um 18:13 schrieb David Parker: > And still not in the same way that they appear on Wheezy ("/sbin/getty > 38400 tty1", etc.). If I add the line for the serial console to > /etc/inittab and reload the init deamon, or even reboot the PC, it simply > does noth

Getting a serial console to work on Jessie

2015-09-01 Thread David Parker
Hello, I have a bunch of Debian Wheezy servers set up with the console available via the serial port. Generally, I just add this line to /etc/inittab: co:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt102 And then run "kill -HUP 1" and the serial console works (I could also use &quo

Re: Serial console over Bluetooth dongle to an android device {Will serial console satisfy my need}

2015-07-01 Thread Stuart Longland
On 30/06/15 22:04, venkat wrote: > Dear all > I am trying to display all the boot screen information in a android > device. For this trial , > I notice that serial console is one of the available option to forward > all display information messages to serial port. > >

Serial console over Bluetooth dongle to an android device {Will serial console satisfy my need}

2015-06-30 Thread venkat
Dear all I am trying to display all the boot screen information in a android device. For this trial , I notice that serial console is one of the available option to forward all display information messages to serial port. Before starting this process would like to understand the Pro'

Re: help using serial console w/ netboot - SOLVED

2012-10-03 Thread lars nooden
On 10/3/12, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 12:10:02PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: >> Sorry. There's a typo, intited should be initrd. > > Ahh! OOPs didn't read whole thread. > > Still, it does show the reason why you should copy 'n' paste instead of > laboriously typing it out by

Re: help using serial console w/ netboot - SOLVED

2012-10-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 12:10:02PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 10/1/12 11:58 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Sorry. There's a typo, intited should be initrd. Ahh! OOPs didn't read whole thread. Still, it does show the reason why you should copy 'n' paste instead of laboriously typing it out by ha

Re: help using serial console w/ netboot - SOLVED

2012-10-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 04:58:25PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > turn into this: > append vga=788 inited=debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz -- ^^ > console=ttyS2,19200 earlyprint=serial,ttyS2,19200 > > Now all seems to be working. Weird. -- "If you're not careful, the news

Re: help using serial console w/ netboot - SOLVED

2012-10-02 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/1/12 11:58 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Turns out that the remote serial-over-ip terminal redirects COM3, and > shows up as ttys2, which makes this > >>> >>> debian-installer/i386/boot-screens/txt.cfg: >>> append vga=788 inited=debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz -- >>> console=ttyS0,19200 ea

Re: help using serial console w/ netboot - SOLVED

2012-10-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Turns out that the remote serial-over-ip terminal redirects COM3, and shows up as ttys2, which makes this debian-installer/i386/boot-screens/txt.cfg: append vga=788 inited=debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz -- console=ttyS0,19200 earlyprint=serial,ttyS0,19200 turn into this: append vga=788

Re: help using serial console w/ netboot

2012-10-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
the splash screen via a remote KVM), but can't access it via a remote serial console. Serial booting with PXE booting needs changes in three places, from what I recall. These are from my notes, speed 19200: debian-installer/i386/boot-screens/syslinux.cfg: serial 0 19200 0 debian-inst

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