Re: Installing Debian root on ZFS mirror NetBoot

2019-04-01 Thread Reco
gt; > > > > https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Debian-Stretch-Root-on-ZFS > > > Hello. > > > > > > I read this guide, but this implies to have a separate MD raid on disk. > > > It is not fully /boot on ZFS. > > > > > Erm, this gu

Re: Installing Debian root on ZFS mirror NetBoot

2019-04-01 Thread Mimiko
On 01.04.2019 09:40, Matthew Crews wrote: On 3/31/19 11:20 PM, Mimiko wrote: On 01.04.2019 05:51, Matthew Crews wrote: Step-by-step instructions are found here: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Debian-Stretch-Root-on-ZFS Hello. I read this guide, but this implies to have a separate MD

Re: Installing Debian root on ZFS mirror NetBoot

2019-03-31 Thread Matthew Crews
On 3/31/19 11:20 PM, Mimiko wrote: > On 01.04.2019 05:51, Matthew Crews wrote: >> Step-by-step instructions are found here: >> >> https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Debian-Stretch-Root-on-ZFS > > Hello. > > I read this guide, but this implies to have a sepa

Re: Installing Debian root on ZFS mirror NetBoot

2019-03-31 Thread Mimiko
On 01.04.2019 05:51, Matthew Crews wrote: Step-by-step instructions are found here: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Debian-Stretch-Root-on-ZFS Hello. I read this guide, but this implies to have a separate MD raid on disk. It is not fully /boot on ZFS.

Re: Installing Debian root on ZFS mirror NetBoot

2019-03-31 Thread Matthew Crews
On 3/31/19 3:12 PM, David Christensen wrote: > On 3/31/19 12:45 AM, Mimiko wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I know that ZFS is not well supported as MD raids. All I've found on >> internet on installing Debian on ZFS is using a live disk. >> >> My goal is to boot

Re: Installing Debian root on ZFS mirror NetBoot

2019-03-31 Thread David Christensen
On 3/31/19 12:45 AM, Mimiko wrote: Hello. I know that ZFS is not well supported as MD raids. All I've found on internet on installing Debian on ZFS is using a live disk. My goal is to boot from network and install Debian root on ZFS raid mirror. I can do this using MD raid. I am sear

Installing Debian root on ZFS mirror NetBoot

2019-03-31 Thread Mimiko
Hello. I know that ZFS is not well supported as MD raids. All I've found on internet on installing Debian on ZFS is using a live disk. My goal is to boot from network and install Debian root on ZFS raid mirror. I can do this using MD raid. I am searching for suggestions of how to enabl

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-12 Thread Matthew Crews
On 9/12/18 7:26 PM, David Christensen wrote: >> The upcoming ZFS 0.8 will make LUKS unnecessary as it >> will feature native ZFS encryption. > > That will be a nice feature to have. I wonder when it will make it into > Debian. Good question. The ZFS package in Sid is still at 0.7.9, and upstrea

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-12 Thread David Christensen
i/Debian-Stretch-Root-on-ZFS Grab a test box, a pair of SSD's, and give it a try. Let us know how it works out (or not). I've also successfully installed Debian Stretch on a LUKS-encrypted ZFS root partition. Okay. The upcoming ZFS 0.8 will make LUKS unnecessary as it will

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-12 Thread Matthew Crews
it): > > > See the ZFSOnLinux Wiki: > > https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Debian-Stretch-Root-on-ZFS > > > Grab a test box, a pair of SSD's, and give it a try. Let us know how it > works out (or not). I've also successfully installed Debi

Re: ext2 for /boot ??? -- WAS: Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-12 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 04:01:10AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi, > > On 11/09/18 22:48, Matthew Crews wrote: > > My recommendation is to use a separate /boot partition and make it EXT2. > > Why not at least ext3? I don't baulk at ext4 btw for

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread Mimiko
On 11.09.2018 15:48, Matthew Crews wrote: My recommendation is to use a separate /boot partition and make it EXT2. I'm planning on using ZFS as software raid on which I'll create vols. So it might be ext2, ext3, ext4.

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread David Christensen
zfs/wiki/Debian-Stretch-Root-on-ZFS Grab a test box, a pair of SSD's, and give it a try. Let us know how it works out (or not). David 1. The easiest path that I have found for creating FOSS Un*x-like systems with ZFS OOTB is FreeBSD. Beware that the BSD userland and root CSH are

Re: ext2 for /boot ??? -- WAS: Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 04:01:10AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 11/09/18 22:48, Matthew Crews wrote: My recommendation is to use a separate /boot partition and make it EXT2. Why not at least ext3? I don't baulk at ext4 btw for /boot -- I can never understand why ext2 is recommended when

Re: ext2 for /boot ??? -- WAS: Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread Matthew Crews
My thought process is that there's no reason for any advanced features in /boot since it should rarely change (aside from the occasional kernel or driver update). That said, theres no real harm in using a different filesystem for /boot, such as ext3, ext4, btrfs, etc., so long as your bootloade

ext2 for /boot ??? -- WAS: Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 11/09/18 22:48, Matthew Crews wrote: > My recommendation is to use a separate /boot partition and make it EXT2. Why not at least ext3? I don't baulk at ext4 btw for /boot -- I can never understand why ext2 is recommended when ext4 gives no trouble and has other advantages, even ext3 has j

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread Matthew Crews
On 9/11/18 5:17 AM, Mimiko wrote: > My question is more about if I should use ZFS as boot, or stick with old MD > raid. Would not ZFS booting break if an update to zfs will be applied? If you intend on using ZFS RAID, do a ZFS RAIDZ pool and not MDADM. ZFS handles all of the functions of RAID man

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread Matthew Crews
ZFS -- at least to a certain extent. GRUB can read ZFS since 1.99. > The one current in Debian stable is 2.02 -- so your chances seem > good on both fronts... I'm not sure about the /boot partition, but its not difficult to get your / partition on ZFS. See the ZFSOnLinux Wiki: https://gi

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 03:17:11PM +0300, Mimiko wrote: > On 11.09.2018 12:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >>Hello. > >> > >>Currently I use ZFS for making a pool of disks, but the system itself is > >>installed on 2 SSD disks using MD to mirror. [...]

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread Mimiko
On 11.09.2018 12:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Hello. Currently I use ZFS for making a pool of disks, but the system itself is installed on 2 SSD disks using MD to mirror. How is now ZFS on handling booting from ZFS mirror. Can I start use ZFS as root filesystem on latest Debian? Is it stable o

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:42:43AM +0300, Mimiko wrote: > Hello. > > Currently I use ZFS for making a pool of disks, but the system itself is > installed on 2 SSD disks using MD to mirror. > > How is now ZFS on handling booting from ZFS mirror. Can

root on ZFS

2018-09-11 Thread Mimiko
Hello. Currently I use ZFS for making a pool of disks, but the system itself is installed on 2 SSD disks using MD to mirror. How is now ZFS on handling booting from ZFS mirror. Can I start use ZFS as root filesystem on latest Debian? Is it stable on updates? Thanks for suggestions.