Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/8/2010 8:37 PM, Mark Allums wrote: Are you saying that one package is simply a meta- or virtual package pointing to the other, and that installing one installs the other? Because I just tried that (in Squeeze), and the two are mutually exclusive. You can install one or the other, but no

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread thib
Mark Allums wrote: However, I myself am now failng to understand the difference between the two. Are you saying that one package is simply a meta- or virtual package pointing to the other, and that installing one installs the other? Exactly. In squeeze, kvm is still a virtual package provide

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/8/2010 5:33 PM, thib wrote: More info relative to my last post: if you want to use KVM, you do *need* the modified qemu software provided by the kvm package (which really points to qemu-kvm). These changes are currently pushed upstream [1]. I hope it clears any ambiguity. [1] http://www.

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread thib
Mark Allums wrote: Sorry, there is some (more) confusion. I was referring to the original post, which seemed to me to be about a completely different topic. Are we reading the same original post? "Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm vir

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/8/2010 3:08 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:31:54AM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: This is a better question, and will get better replies. My replies were general, and you had something specific in mind. It pays to be specific. I can tell you about virt tech, though in my s

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread thib
Martin Kraus wrote: This seems pretty specific to me. I have asked what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm for kvm virtualization. Both support kvm and both are based on qemu 0.11.1 so I wanted to know what is the difference. I'm not really sure that virtualbox is the right thing for a

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Martin Kraus
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:31:54AM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > This is a better question, and will get better replies. My replies > were general, and you had something specific in mind. It pays to be > specific. I can tell you about virt tech, though in my > scatterbrained way, I will misuse the

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/8/2010 6:41 AM, Martin Kraus wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:58:43PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. ... o QEMU is emulation. o Virtualbox is Full virtualization. o QEMU+KVM is a funny beast, it is paravirtualization with kernel

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Martin Kraus
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 10:27:42PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:41:54PM +0100, Martin Kraus wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:58:43PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > > > Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. > > In Debian > > Squeeze, there are two pa

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:41:54PM +0100, Martin Kraus wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:58:43PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > > Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. > In Debian > Squeeze, there are two packages for qemu, one named qemu, the other qemu-kvm. > Both are based

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread thib
Martin Kraus wrote: My question is, why there are two apparently identical qemu packages. Which one should I use with kvm. ** I didn't take the time to check that out, so I may be wrong ** The kvm userspace utility is in fact a modified qemu which takes advantage of hardware tech via the kvm

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Martin Kraus
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:58:43PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. ... > > o QEMU is emulation. > o Virtualbox is Full virtualization. > o QEMU+KVM is a funny beast, it is paravirtualization with kernel > virtualization, you need hardware C

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-07 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/7/2010 10:40 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 22:07 -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Oh, and Virtualbox was originally based on QEMU, and there is still a lot of QEMU code in it. Interesting - does that pose any issues for the non-OSE Virtualbox, w.r.t. QEMU being GPL? Richard

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-07 Thread Richard Hector
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 22:07 -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > Oh, and Virtualbox was originally based on QEMU, and there is still a > lot of QEMU code in it. Interesting - does that pose any issues for the non-OSE Virtualbox, w.r.t. QEMU being GPL? Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-07 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/4/2010 6:41 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about t

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-07 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/7/2010 9:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 6:41 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-07 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/4/2010 6:41 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about t

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-05 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
Oops, correction: where my last post stated: ... If your processor couldn't run kvm, you would install that and run qemu ... I meant: ... If your processor couldn't run kvm, you would install and run qemu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-05 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: > Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm > packages > for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be > able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about this. > To run kvm, yo

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-04 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about this. thanks for clarification mk qe

qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-04 Thread Martin Kraus
Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about this. thanks for clarification mk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ..