Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 21 sep 10, 22:37:42, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Well, I'm actually making progress here. I went back and started > over. This time I didn't install the desktop task - only the > standard system one. Everything from the command line seems to work > fine, including ps. > > So the next step is

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-23 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/22/2010 11:48 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry, You keep saying things like: I appreciate the comments, but people just don't understand. Another virtual machine is NOT an option here. I either get it to work under Virtual PC or have to toss Debian all together. There are no other choices.

Re: Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jerry, You keep saying things like: I appreciate the comments, but people just don't understand. Another virtual machine is NOT an option here. I either get it to work under Virtual PC or have to toss Debian all together. There are no other choices. The decision is totally out of my hands. As

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle
Well, I'm actually making progress here. I went back and started over. This time I didn't install the desktop task - only the standard system one. Everything from the command line seems to work fine, including ps. So the next step is to figure out what is installed when desktop is selected.

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
For instance, I routinely run Virtualbox and NMware Desktop simultaneously. But if I forget and start XP mode while either or both are running---BOOM! BSOD. I doubt anyone cares, but I thought I should clarify. My experience has been thus: If you are running VPC and you start Virtualbox, vbo

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Cassiano Leal
On 20 September 2010 22:52, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 9/20/2010 9:29 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >>  On 21/09/10 11:08, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, Scott, but it looks like these links are for Virtual Machine >>> running on Windows Server 2008.  I can't find anything on Windows 7's >>> v

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2010 9:29 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 21/09/10 11:08, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Thanks, Scott, but it looks like these links are for Virtual Machine running on Windows Server 2008. I can't find anything on Windows 7's virtualization. Hey - it was 4am here (at the time)! :-D Yes, I not

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/09/10 11:08, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 9/20/2010 1:18 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 20/09/10 10:15, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC. I basically >>> took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and >>> get gnome's displ

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2010 12:41 PM, Arthur Machlas wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 9/20/2010 11:29 AM, Arthur Machlas wrote: The thing of it is, this doesn't sound like a Debian problem/question. And most every suggestion is given with that in mind. So if you wanted to see

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2010 1:18 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 20/09/10 10:15, Jerry Stuckle wrote: This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC. I basically took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and get gnome's display correct. I still have several problems, which may b

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2010 7:20 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 9/20/2010 10:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I appreciate the comments, but people just don't understand. Another virtual machine is NOT an option here. I either get it to work under Virtual PC or have to toss Debian all together. There are no other choic

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2010 7:51 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 9/20/2010 10:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I appreciate the comments, but people just don't understand. Another virtual machine is NOT an option here. I either get it to work under Virtual PC or have to toss Debian all together. There are no other choic

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/20/2010 6:51 PM, Mark Allums wrote: For instance, I routinely run Virtualbox and NMware Desktop simultaneously. But if I forget and start XP mode while either or both are running---BOOM! BSOD. That's VMware, not NMware. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/20/2010 10:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I appreciate the comments, but people just don't understand. Another virtual machine is NOT an option here. I either get it to work under Virtual PC or have to toss Debian all together. There are no other choices. The decision is totally out of my hand

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/20/2010 10:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I appreciate the comments, but people just don't understand. Another virtual machine is NOT an option here. I either get it to work under Virtual PC or have to toss Debian all together. There are no other choices. The decision is totally out of my hand

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread PaulNM
Arthur Machlas wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 20/09/10 10:15, Jerry Stuckle wrote: This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC. I basically Perhaps some of the links off this link might be useful http://blogs.msdn.com/search/SearchResults.aspx?q

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >  On 20/09/10 10:15, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC.  I basically > Perhaps some of the links off this link might be useful > http://blogs.msdn.com/search/SearchResults.aspx?q=linux§ions=4122

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/09/10 10:15, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC. I basically > took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and > get gnome's display correct. > > I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one > to find i

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 9/20/2010 11:29 AM, Arthur Machlas wrote: >> >> The thing of it is, this doesn't sound like a Debian problem/question. >> And most every suggestion is given with that in mind. So if you wanted >> to see if it was a Debian problem, then yo

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Arthur Machlas
The thing of it is, this doesn't sound like a Debian problem/question. And most every suggestion is given with that in mind. So if you wanted to see if it was a Debian problem, then you'd do things like try it in another VM. Of course, this isn't possible for whatever reason - doesn't matter - ther

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread John Hasler
Jerry Stuckle writes: > I need to make this work or have concrete reasons as to why it doesn't > work. Then why are you addressing your question to us and not to Microsoft? Debian works on real hardware. This Microsoft software purports to emulate real hardware. Therefor the fact that Debian doe

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:03:28 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 9/20/2010 9:54 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> A quick view of Wikipedia virtual machines comparison chart states so: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_platform_virtual_machines >> >> - Third, because by you'll get further

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2010 9:54 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:15:42 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: (...) I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one to find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple ps command. This occurs whether I run as a user or root. I've don

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:15:42 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: (...) > I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one to > find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple ps command. This > occurs whether I run as a user or root. > > I've done a lot of looking, but don't s

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2010 8:30 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Seg, 20 Set 2010, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I need to make this work or have concrete reasons as to why it doesn't work. Guesses, opinions, etc. won't make it. Stubbornly sticking to a software that you empirically determined that doesn't work wo

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2010 8:27 AM, Eric Viseur wrote: Okay. Allow me to make things clear. Most of us DON'T F** KNOW why it doesn't work. But it came to us that it won't work no matter what we do. I personnally tried to have Virtual PC work with Linux on 7 'cause I have Windows XP Mode running, but i c

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2010 12:06 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 20/09/10 10:15, Jerry Stuckle wrote: This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC. I basically took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and get gnome's display correct. I still have several problems, which may

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Seg, 20 Set 2010, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I need to make this work or have concrete reasons as to why it doesn't work. Guesses, opinions, etc. won't make it. Stubbornly sticking to a software that you empirically determined that doesn't work won't make it, too. But it's your computer and yo

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Viseur
Okay. Allow me to make things clear. Most of us DON'T F** KNOW why it doesn't work. But it came to us that it won't work no matter what we do. I personnally tried to have Virtual PC work with Linux on 7 'cause I have Windows XP Mode running, but i couldn't get it to work. Try ALOT of possib

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2010 12:12 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Jerry Stuckle writes: And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes with Windows 7 doesn't work. It's fairly difficult to answer such a guestion, es

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/19/2010 11:27 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 9/19/2010 10:11 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: As I said - unless you can tell me WHY it doesn't work, it's not open for discussion. The fact you tried it with one distro and don't like Microsoft are NOT valid reasons. I did not say I don't like Micros

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/09/10 14:12, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Jerry Stuckle writes: >> And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's >> not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes >> with Windows 7 doesn't work. > It's fairly difficult to answer such a guestio

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jerry Stuckle writes: > And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's > not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes > with Windows 7 doesn't work. It's fairly difficult to answer such a guestion, especially without source code to Windows 7 :-)

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/09/10 10:15, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC. I basically > took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and > get gnome's display correct. > > I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one > to find i

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/09/10 13:11, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 9/19/2010 10:00 PM, Mark Allums wrote: >> On 9/19/2010 8:41 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >>> And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's >>> not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes >>> with Windows

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/19/2010 10:11 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: As I said - unless you can tell me WHY it doesn't work, it's not open for discussion. The fact you tried it with one distro and don't like Microsoft are NOT valid reasons. I did not say I don't like Microsoft. I tried it with seven distros. Grant

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/19/2010 10:00 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 9/19/2010 8:41 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes with Windows 7 doesn't work. It doesn't work because it doesn't work

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Morgan Gangwere
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:48:49 -0500 Mark Allums wrote: > Your problem is probably Virtual PC. Try Virtualbox (free) or VMware > server (free) or VMware Desktop (paid and kind of expensive but much > more usable for newbies than server). Its a known problem. very much a known problem! its some

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/19/2010 8:41 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes with Windows 7 doesn't work. It doesn't work because it doesn't work. Microsoft doesn't care if any OS besides

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/19/2010 8:23 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Jerry Stuckle writes: I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one to find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple ps command. This occurs whether I run as a user or root. So gnome starts but ps fails? Very odd

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/19/2010 7:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC. I basically took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and get gnome's display correct. I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one to find is an "Il

RE: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Mike Viau
> On Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:15:42 -0400 > > This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC. I basically > took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and get > gnome's display correct. > > I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one to > fi

Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jerry Stuckle writes: > I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one > to find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple ps command. > This occurs whether I run as a user or root. So gnome starts but ps fails? Very odd. Please 1) apt-get install debsums 2) debsums

ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Jerry Stuckle
This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC. I basically took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and get gnome's display correct. I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one to find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple p