Daniel Graham Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The only platform I've ever seen a real benefit from compiling
> everything with arch specific GCC flags is the 32bit SPARCs.
You've never done any floating-point-intensive programming,
apparently...
Gcc may not be as good as icc in extreme cases
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 01:22:03PM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> On 5/4/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:42:40PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> >> On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 10:34:27AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> >
> >[heavy snippage dude]
> >> >
>
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 13:22 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> On 5/4/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:42:40PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 10:34:27AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> >
> > [heavy snippage dude]
> > > >
> > >
On 5/4/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:42:40PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 10:34:27AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
[heavy snippage dude]
> >
> > You mentioned debian commitment to FSF and its social contract, as
> > very g
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:42:40PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I understand Greg's comments to be about Debian's commitment to
> enforcing a packaging policy, i.e. a policy on where and how things
> are installed. To me is quite a different thing than a social
AOL
> policy. In Debian, if the i
On Friday 04 May 2007 05:36, Greg Folkert wrote:
> like encoders and decoders. Along with the entire
Going to be very machine specific... one of the biggest groans against GCC is
that is supports so many target platforms but doesn't do any of them
particularly well. Intel's compiler generates v
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:42:40PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 10:34:27AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
[heavy snippage dude]
> >
> > You mentioned debian commitment to FSF and its social contract, as
> > very good reasons by themselves to run debian. I totally agree.
>
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 10:34:27AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> On 5/3/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 22:38 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> >> On 5/3/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > ...
> >> > > ...
> >>
> >> Nope, aptitude offers you the de
On 5/3/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 22:38 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> On 5/3/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...
> > > ...
>
> Nope, aptitude offers you the dependencies the distro developer
> specifies (not just the application developer),
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 22:38 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> On 5/3/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...
> > > Also It's not only compiler optimizations what you get from source
> > > base distros, it's dependencies control.
> >
> > Dependency controls... like what apt or aptitude does
On 5/3/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> Also It's not only compiler optimizations what you get from source
> base distros, it's dependencies control.
Dependency controls... like what apt or aptitude does?
> There are things one might compile against, that others might think as
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 13:10 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> >> For every report of "Woot! Compiling from source kicks butt. Why
> didn't
> >> I do this earlier", I can find 1 that disagrees with you and 1 that
> says
> >> "maybe it is worth it for max performance, but WOW, 196 hours to
> get a
> >>
For every report of "Woot! Compiling from source kicks butt. Why didn't
I do this earlier", I can find 1 that disagrees with you and 1 that says
"maybe it is worth it for max performance, but WOW, 196 hours to get a
workable complete system, I'm not so sure"
...
The reason I say this, is even if
Biggest contenders for optimisation are the kernel and libc. Most
applications are mainly a series of calls to these two so won't directly
benefit from by being compiled with *magical* flags.
Debian supply both optimised kernels and to a lesser degree optimised
libc packages. Use of SIMD extensi
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Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 13:59 +0100, yag wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I would like to know whether installing from source rather than
>> from the repositories has any advantage in terms of performance or
>> something else. I didn't notice a
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 13:59 +0100, yag wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would like to know whether installing from source rather than
> from the repositories has any advantage in terms of performance or
> something else. I didn't notice any difference when comparing
> mplayer's behavior, although compiling it
On 5/3/07, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joe writes:
> Sure, you can compile things yourself, but then you have to do all the
> dependency checking yourself
Download the Debian source package. Run 'apt-get build-dep ' to
install the build dependencies. Edit the source to taste. Edit
Joe writes:
> Sure, you can compile things yourself, but then you have to do all the
> dependency checking yourself
Download the Debian source package. Run 'apt-get build-dep ' to
install the build dependencies. Edit the source to taste. Edit
debian/changelog and up the version number. Run 'dp
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 04:47:16PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
> yag wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I would like to know whether installing from source rather than from the
> > repositories has any advantage in terms of performance or something
> > else. I didn't notice any difference when comparing mplayer's b
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yag wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would like to know whether installing from source rather than from the
> repositories has any advantage in terms of performance or something
> else. I didn't notice any difference when comparing mplayer's behavior,
> although com
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 01:59:32PM +0100, yag wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would like to know whether installing from source rather than
> from the repositories has any advantage in terms of performance or
> something else. I didn't notice any difference when comparing
> mplayer's behavior, although compi
Hi
I would like to know whether installing from source rather than
from the repositories has any advantage in terms of performance or
something else. I didn't notice any difference when comparing
mplayer's behavior, although compiling it myself gave me the choice
of fine tuning the available
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