Re: Image burn programs, Was: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-06 Thread gene heskett
On 8/6/24 05:07, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: balenaetcher is purported to be smart enough to write an .iso and make it bootable. But no surprise, I dl the latest version and run it, select the iso file and it refuses to proceed to selecting the target device to write it to.

Image burn programs, Was: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > balenaetcher is purported to be smart enough to write an .iso and make it > bootable. But no surprise, I dl the latest version and run it, select the > iso file and it refuses to proceed to selecting the target device to write > it to. Maybe it thinks too much over the e

Re: How: Require root password instead of user password for GUI programs

2023-04-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 07, 2023 at 11:38:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 07 Apr 2023 at 21:09:59 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > You folks keeping up with desktop environments are > > real heroes:-) > > It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it :). I gave up and ended at Fvwm in a big round ci

Re: How: Require root password instead of user password for GUI programs

2023-04-07 Thread Brian
On Fri 07 Apr 2023 at 21:09:59 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2023 at 06:22:48PM +0200, B.M. wrote: > > [...] > > > PolicyKit got replaced by polkit (at least in current Debian Testing), > > and the "old" solution with setting AdminIdentities doesn't work > > anymore. Instead o

Re: How: Require root password instead of user password for GUI programs

2023-04-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 07, 2023 at 06:22:48PM +0200, B.M. wrote: [...] > PolicyKit got replaced by polkit (at least in current Debian Testing), > and the "old" solution with setting AdminIdentities doesn't work > anymore. Instead one has to add a file /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/50- > default.rules as follows: >

Re: How: Require root password instead of user password for GUI programs

2023-04-07 Thread B.M.
On Thu, 2023-04-06 at 11:04 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 8:36 AM B.M. wrote: > > > > I configured my system such that some users are in group sudo, but > > they are > > asked for the root password instead of just their user password by > > creating a > > file within /etc/

Re: How: Require root password instead of user password for GUI programs

2023-04-06 Thread Joe
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 11:04:13 -0400 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 8:36 AM B.M. wrote: > > > > I configured my system such that some users are in group sudo, but > > they are asked for the root password instead of just their user > > password by creating a file within /etc/sudoers.

Re: How: Require root password instead of user password for GUI programs

2023-04-06 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 8:36 AM B.M. wrote: > > I configured my system such that some users are in group sudo, but they are > asked for the root password instead of just their user password by creating a > file within /etc/sudoers.d/ with the line: > > Defaults rootpw > > This is working just fine

How: Require root password instead of user password for GUI programs

2023-04-06 Thread B.M.
Hi, I configured my system such that some users are in group sudo, but they are asked for the root password instead of just their user password by creating a file within /etc/sudoers.d/ with the line: Defaults rootpw This is working just fine, but for graphical applications it doesn't work: e.g

Re: Using (old) Ubuntu libjpeg packages to allow some older programs still running on recent debian

2022-08-09 Thread Ángel
Rob, you haven't mentioned which old program is keeping you from updating. In addition to the options that Dan said (running the program in a VM or a container): You may be able to rebuild the program with the newer libraries. Most likely, a simple rebuild like this will work fne. This would be th

Re: Using (old) Ubuntu libjpeg packages to allow some older programs still running on recent debian

2022-08-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Maris, Rob wrote: > Next I describe a case which make me think that Debian has less a focus on > keeping less recent lib packages part of more recent debian versions. More > important: two other packages part of both Ubuntu and Debian prove to result > in removal of old programs on

Using (old) Ubuntu libjpeg packages to allow some older programs still running on recent debian

2022-08-03 Thread Maris, Rob
es part of more recent debian versions. More important: two other packages part of both Ubuntu and Debian prove to result in removal of old programs on Debian, but not on Ubuntu! Regarding better backward compatibility: libjpeg8 and libpeg62 exists both in Ubuntu (till today); but in Debian only

Re: excessive memory use by several gnome programs

2021-10-05 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 03:24:41PM +, L Dimov wrote: > My fans were going crazy after restart, as usual, so I finally looked at the > System Monitor to find that with no programs started by me, > gnome-contacts-search-provider was using the most, reaching up to 1.8 GB. All >

Re: excessive memory use by several gnome programs

2021-10-05 Thread piorunz
On 05/10/2021 16:24, L Dimov wrote: My fans were going crazy after restart, as usual, so I finally looked at the System Monitor to find that with no programs started by me, gnome-contacts-search-provider was using the most, reaching up to 1.8 GB. All 8 CPUs were running on 99 to 100%. After

Re: Error in Select and install programs

2021-04-03 Thread Weaver
On 04-04-2021 15:40, Orlando Canchola wrote: > Yes, I am installing Debian boster It's unlikely to be the desktop environment. It could be a dirty disc, or any number of other issues. What was the installation step immediately before you received that message? Cheers! Harry > El sáb., 3 de abril

Re: Error in Select and install programs

2021-04-03 Thread Weaver
On 04-04-2021 15:25, Orlando Canchola wrote: > Hi! The error is: "Installation step failed > > An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again > from the > menu, or skip it and choose something else" > > The environment desktop I tried to install is xfce Try to keep your

Re: Error in Select and install programs

2021-04-03 Thread Weaver
On 04-04-2021 15:12, Orlando Canchola wrote: > Hi I am trying to install Debian buster but when I choose a desktop > environment and wait, an error occurs, so what could I do? Hullo, Orlando, Describe the error. Is there any message involved? Which desktop environment are you trying to install? C

Error in Select and install programs

2021-04-03 Thread Orlando Canchola
Hi I am trying to install Debian buster but when I choose a desktop environment and wait, an error occurs, so what could I do?

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-28 Thread David Wright
On Sat 27 Feb 2021 at 15:19:39 (+0300), Semih Ozlem wrote: > Joe, 27 Şub 2021 Cmt, 12:02 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 11:30:08 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > > > > > Sorry I can not read emails very often. No I am not new to linux I > > > have been using it for the past 6 or 7 years st

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Joe
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 15:19:39 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > Should I then be suspicious of a possible attack on the system in > case the system fails, if both debian and ubuntu are fairly stable? > The usb flash drives themselves are still functional in the sense > that I can view the files in them a

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 03:22:08PM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > One potential extra information that could be relevant is that I did use > the flash drives in a university network, and using shared wifi in a hostel > and before in a public library. > That's probably irrelevant: flash drives can an

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Semih Ozlem
One potential extra information that could be relevant is that I did use the flash drives in a university network, and using shared wifi in a hostel and before in a public library. Semih Ozlem , 27 Şub 2021 Cmt, 15:19 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Should I then be suspicious of a possible attack on the

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Semih Ozlem
Should I then be suspicious of a possible attack on the system in case the system fails, if both debian and ubuntu are fairly stable? The usb flash drives themselves are still functional in the sense that I can view the files in them after plugging them in. I backed up the data on them. But when I

About keeping a Debian installation happy [was: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian] systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 11:34:10AM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Also even though I have been using linux for a while, that still does not > mean that I would know everything about linux or that there would be no > details that I miss... Nobody does. The Linux kernel alone receives roughly 6000-8000

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Joe
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 11:30:08 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > Sorry I can not read emails very often. No I am not new to linux I > have been using it for the past 6 or 7 years starting mostly with > ubuntu. I had CENTOS and Ubuntu and debian installed on some machines > before. Most of them stopped fu

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Semih Ozlem
Also even though I have been using linux for a while, that still does not mean that I would know everything about linux or that there would be no details that I miss... Semih Ozlem , 27 Şub 2021 Cmt, 11:30 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Sorry I can not read emails very often. No I am not new to linux I

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Semih Ozlem
Sorry I can not read emails very often. No I am not new to linux I have been using it for the past 6 or 7 years starting mostly with ubuntu. I had CENTOS and Ubuntu and debian installed on some machines before. Most of them stopped functioning. Some of them in less than six months. I am new to th

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread martin f krafft
Regarding the following, written by "Semih Ozlem" on 2021-02-26 at 08:54 Uhr +0300: lvs is in which package? If it's not installed on your system (the package being `lvm2`), then my suggested fix won't work for you anyway, since your system isn't set up to use Logical Volume Management. --

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
Charles Curley (charlescur...@charlescurley.com) wrote: > I also made the mistake of figuring that getting lvs installed would > help solve the problem. I later realized that getting lvs installed > would be irrelevant: the fact that it is not installed tells us what > we needed to know: M. Ozlem i

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:56:34 +1100 David wrote: > However I am unsure why this was asked for. > If you are not already using LVM [1] on your system > then I would expect the 'lvs' command output to be blank. M. Ozlem's original questions was, could one add another disk to a debian system. Someon

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
Semih Ozlem (semihozlemlinuxu...@gmail.com) wrote: > Is lvs linux virtual server? > > I am not able to find a command or a file with the name lvs... Here, I found it for you: > Charles Curley , 26 Şub 2021 Cum, 09:53 > tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > charles@hawk:~$ apt-file search /lvs | grep lvs$ >

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-26 Thread David
[I re-arranged this to correct the top-posting] On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 16:54, Semih Ozlem wrote: > martin f krafft , 23 Şub 2021 Sal, 13:30 tarihinde şunu > yazdı: >> Maybe I can provide a quick and easy solution, depending on what happens >> when you type >> $ sudo lvs >> into a terminal. Cou

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Semih Ozlem
Is lvs linux virtual server? I am not able to find a command or a file with the name lvs... Charles Curley , 26 Şub 2021 Cum, 09:53 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:54:16 +0300 > Semih Ozlem wrote: > > > lvs is in which package? > > closest I can find are: > > from apt search > >

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:54:16 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > lvs is in which package? > closest I can find are: > from apt search > (i) netgen-lvs/stable 1.5.118-1 amd64 > Netlist comparison - Layout vs Schematic (LVS) > from google or yandex search > (ii) https://github.com/alibaba/LVS charles@ha

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Semih Ozlem
lvs is in which package? closest I can find are: from apt search (i) netgen-lvs/stable 1.5.118-1 amd64 Netlist comparison - Layout vs Schematic (LVS) from google or yandex search (ii) https://github.com/alibaba/LVS martin f krafft , 23 Şub 2021 Sal, 13:30 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Semih, > > May

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-02-25 at 10:58, Greg Wooledge wrote: > (/me looks at the Subject: header ... how on earth did we get from there > to here?) Topic drift is inexplicable and inexorable. Just be glad this hasn't developed into a vs. thread yet. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
IL Ka (kazakevichi...@gmail.com) wrote: > testing has [python] 3.9 and stable has 3.7. > What if I need 3.9 but do not want to touch testing on my production server? > Or how can I migrate to 3.10 (which will be released soon) if even bullseye > will have only 3.9? If your production software is i

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread IL Ka
> > > Eh? > > $ apt-cache policy python3 > > python3: > Installed: 3.9.1-1 > Candidate: 3.9.1-1 > Version table: > *** 3.9.1-1 900 > 900 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > 3.7.3-1 800 > 800 http://ftp.us.debia

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-02-25 at 10:26, IL Ka wrote: >> Thanks for the explanation. But I guess that the Windows style is >> becoming increasingly common in the Linux world as well, >> with the rise >> of Docker, Flatpak, Snap, etc. (as another poster in this thread >> mentioned). And these are not just for thos

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 18:26:04 +0300 IL Ka wrote: > > Thanks for the explanation. But I guess that the Windows style is > > becoming increasingly common in the Linux world as well, > > You mean "side by side", right? I meant the habit of including all an application's dependencies in its install

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread IL Ka
> > Thanks for the explanation. But I guess that the Windows style is > becoming increasingly common in the Linux world as well, You mean "side by side", right? I agree. Some developers took another approach and compiled all their code statically. AFAIK "Go" language does it by default, so all l

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 17:56:20 +0300 IL Ka wrote: > > > > Aren't Windows DLLs roughly analogous to Linux library packages? > > > > In most cases yes. On Windows you can install the library to the "System32" > and access it from anywhere. > But since most software in Windows is installed not from "

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread IL Ka
> > Aren't Windows DLLs roughly analogous to Linux library packages? > In most cases yes. On Windows you can install the library to the "System32" and access it from anywhere. But since most software in Windows is installed not from "repository" but from some random places instead, "DLL hell" may

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 08:58:42AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 10:21:49 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > ... > > > Additionally, a major difference between Debian (as well as most other > > Linux systems) and Windows is that library packages are installed to be > > available f

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 10:21:49 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: ... > Additionally, a major difference between Debian (as well as most other > Linux systems) and Windows is that library packages are installed to be > available for all other packages on the system. This means that a > library package

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread Joe
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:37:12 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:13:12 AM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > You can always add more filesystem space later. It's easier if > > you're using LVM but that isn't required. You just build another > > filesystem on the new drive

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 10:37 AM wrote: > On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:13:12 AM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > You can always add more filesystem space later. It's easier if you're > using > > LVM but that isn't required. You just build another filesystem on the new > > drive after it's installed

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:13:12 AM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > You can always add more filesystem space later. It's easier if you're using > LVM but that isn't required. You just build another filesystem on the new > drive after it's installed and mount it into your filesystems, at the > appr

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 2/23/21 8:13 AM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: You can always add more filesystem space later. It's easier if you're using LVM but that isn't required. You just build another filesystem on the new drive after it's installed and mount it into your filesystems, at the appropriate mount point. Indee

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
e able to test different systems, and planning to > use virtualization for this purpose (ii) possibly create virtual machines > with programs installed (iii) a sort of a potential goal is to build a web > site and host it , but mainly just rather for learning how to do it, since > probably

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread martin f krafft
Semih, Maybe I can provide a quick and easy solution, depending on what happens when you type ``` $ sudo lvs ``` into a terminal. Could you let us know what that spits out? Thanks, -- .''`. martin f. krafft @martinkrafft : :' : proud Debian developer `. `'` http://people.debian.org/

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 23 feb 21, 00:37:52, Semih Ozlem wrote: > I am currently pre-planning. If it could be done, then I am going to go > about searching and purchasing necessary devices in order to do the task. > That's why I am asking in the first place. I have a usb device that I can > attach for testing now.

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread David Christensen
on a usb or a hard drive that does not have a lot of space. Suppose I get a second hard disk that has more space. Can I add the second disk to the debian system in a way so that additional programs that can not be installed in the system without the second disk due to "no disk space left&q

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread David
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 10:02, Semih Ozlem wrote: Thanks for the info. What is the make/model of the external USB disk? Which version of USB port is it connected to? > storage device there is an internal hard disk (500gb) that has windows > installed on it, which I can not install another opera

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Semih Ozlem
ation for this purpose (ii) possibly create virtual machines with programs installed (iii) a sort of a potential goal is to build a web site and host it , but mainly just rather for learning how to do it, since probably I can not afford for now actually investing in necessary equipment and probably

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
rom the > > > downloaded files, the system itself may give an error saying no disk > > space > > > left. The problem is when installing the file I presume some files are > > > written in linux directory usually I presume or guess in /bin/ or /sbin > > so > &

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread David
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 08:38, Semih Ozlem wrote: > I have a usb device that I can attach for testing now. Sorry if I overlooked that you provided this information already elsewhere, but I think it would help us to help you if you would properly describe for us the hardware that you are currently

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Semih Ozlem
x directory usually I presume or guess in /bin/ or /sbin > so > > that the installed programs become usable. When an external disk is > added, > > it is writable and readable but its space does not become incorporated or > > available to /bin /sbin or whatever directories

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
d files, the system itself may give an error saying no disk space > left. The problem is when installing the file I presume some files are > written in linux directory usually I presume or guess in /bin/ or /sbin so > that the installed programs become usable. When an external disk is added,

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Semih Ozlem
. The problem is when installing the file I presume some files are written in linux directory usually I presume or guess in /bin/ or /sbin so that the installed programs become usable. When an external disk is added, it is writable and readable but its space does not become incorporated or available to

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Brian
stion. Suppose that I install debian on > a usb or a hard drive that does not have a lot of space. Suppose I get a > second hard disk that has more space. Can I add the second disk to the > debian system in a way so that additional programs that can not be > installed in the system withou

is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Semih Ozlem
. Suppose I get a second hard disk that has more space. Can I add the second disk to the debian system in a way so that additional programs that can not be installed in the system without the second disk due to "no disk space left" error can now be installed in the system. If the answer i

Cross compiling gtk3 programs

2020-10-07 Thread Flo
Hi all, Is there a 'beaten' path for cross compiling C-programs using GTK3 for Windows? I found several tutorials which are not working anymore. And everything I tried lead to a dead end. Does anyone know about this issue? And can give me a hint how to proceed? Yes, I have installed

Re: Looking for a Couple of Programs in Buster

2019-07-11 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-12 04:44, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 03:40:17PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: both ckermit and dosemu are in stretch and unstable but not in stable -- I assume they failed to build or had a similar critical bug. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ckermit https://tracker.deb

Re: Looking for a Couple of Programs in Buster

2019-07-11 Thread Martin McCormick
Greg Wooledge writes: > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ckermit > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dosemu > A very useful site, in my experience, and tragically not well known. That is really good information. Thanks. I am not even sure if dosemu will do what I need and ckermit was alway

Re: Looking for a Couple of Programs in Buster

2019-07-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 03:40:17PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > both ckermit and dosemu are in stretch and unstable but not in stable -- > I assume they failed to build or had a similar critical bug. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ckermit https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dosemu A very useful site, in

Re: Looking for a Couple of Programs in Buster

2019-07-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Martin McCormick wrote: > I wanted ckermit and a program called dosemu and apt-get says > they aren't available. Here is the sources.list file I am using. > Are these applications really gone or is there another archive to > search both ckermit and dosemu are in stretch and unstable but not in s

Looking for a Couple of Programs in Buster

2019-07-11 Thread Martin McCormick
I wanted ckermit and a program called dosemu and apt-get says they aren't available. Here is the sources.list file I am using. Are these applications really gone or is there another archive to search sources.list follows and I started out in stretch: # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.9.0 _Stre

Re: Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

2018-11-17 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 08:27:45PM +, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de: > > > Inittab was the original way of doing things for AT&T, BSD copied that, > > and SysV grafted /etc/init.d onto it. Slowly other unices followed > > (alas!). > > > > Some history seems in order. >

Re: Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

2018-11-17 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
to...@tuxteam.de: Inittab was the original way of doing things for AT&T, BSD copied that, and SysV grafted /etc/init.d onto it. Slowly other unices followed (alas!). Some history seems in order. There wasn't really an original way of doing things, as in First Edition Unix this stuff, incl

Re: [OT] Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

2018-10-09 Thread tomas
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 08:47:50AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > You're actually thinking of inittab here [...] I know, I know. I've been around this for longer than I care. I saw HP-UX's transition from one to another (9 -> 10). I've had GNU/Linux distros spawning PostgreSQL off inittab (

Re: [OT] Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

2018-10-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 10:31:41AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > If you have a program that does fork, but you don't want it to, there's > nothing you can do to stop it. There's DJB's fghack program, but as the name implies, it's a hack, and not guaranteed to work. https://cr.yp.to/daemontools

Re: [OT] Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

2018-10-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 11:04:21AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Systemd's stance is that it wants to supervise the processes it creates. And > the most effective way to do that is to keep them as children; that's what > old BSD init did, and what other process supervision p

Re: [OT] Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

2018-10-09 Thread tomas
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 10:34:23AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 11:04:21AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >Now systemd is very opinionated [1] software, and "there is just one > >way to do it", so the daemons serviced by it have to behave in this > >one way (stay in th

Re: [OT] Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

2018-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 11:04:21AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Now systemd is very opinionated [1] software, and "there is just one way to do it", so the daemons serviced by it have to behave in this one way (stay in the foreground). It certainly is opinionated, but daemons serviced by it do

Re: [OT] Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

2018-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
nvironments, and a myriad other ways (execute via cron, or at, etc.) If you have a program that does fork, but you don't want it to, there's nothing you can do to stop it. Modern init systems (like systemd) can manage programs that do not fork, so there's no need to do when being

Re: [OT] Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

2018-10-09 Thread tomas
ervise the processes it creates. And the most effective way to do that is to keep them as children; that's what old BSD init did, and what other process supervision programs (e.g. runit) do. They can watch closely when one of their children die and take action. The whole PID thing came up

[OT] Systemd and forking programs (was systemd can't start a dæmon and doesn't give any error either)

2018-10-09 Thread Didar Hossain
** Apologies for hijacking the thread, I really wanted to start a new one but I need the perspective of Greg on this ** On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 09:02:18AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 06:17:52PM +0800, Weiwu Zhang wrote: > > You've used an option named "-daemon". I am

Re: programs freeze in /

2018-08-28 Thread Gary Hodder
On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 09:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 03:57:42PM +1000, Gary Hodder wrote: > > Hi all, > > In midnight commander if I go to the / directory mc freezes. > > This also happens in leafpad the cursor just stays spinning and > > nothing > > happens. > >

programs freeze in /

2018-08-27 Thread Gary Hodder
Hi all, In midnight commander if I go to the / directory mc freezes. This also happens in leafpad the cursor just stays spinning and nothing happens. Both mc and leathpad were started from a root console. I have 2 machine both on 9.5 and both do the same. Is there a fix for this? Thanks Gary.

Re: programs freeze in /

2018-08-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 03:57:42PM +1000, Gary Hodder wrote: > Hi all, > In midnight commander if I go to the / directory mc freezes. > This also happens in leafpad the cursor just stays spinning and nothing > happens. > Both mc and leathpad were started from a root console. > I have 2

programs freeze in /

2018-08-27 Thread Gary Hodder
Hi all, In midnight commander if I go to the / directory mc freezes. This also happens in leafpad the cursor just stays spinning and nothing happens. Both mc and leathpad were started from a root console. I have 2 machine both on 9.5 and both do the same. Is there a fix for this? Thanks Gary.

Re: Debian home security programs?

2018-05-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/04/2018 12:09 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi everyone, I am wondering, given how flexible Debian can be, if this idea is possible? If it does not already exist? I now live  in an apartment  above a business that closes very early. One thing I miss from my old dwelling  is a sort of interc

Re: Debian home security programs?

2018-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 May 2018 01:09:51 Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi everyone, > I am wondering, given how flexible Debian can be, if this idea is > possible? If it does not already exist? > I now live in an apartment above a business that closes very early. > One thing I miss from my old dwelling > is

Re: Debian home security programs?

2018-05-03 Thread der.hans
Am 04. May, 2018 schwätzte Karen Lewellen so: moin moin Karen, it's certainly possible. A decade ago a friend of mine used debian and asterisk to setup a bell and intercom system for a school using voip phones. Also, I talked to NextClouders at SCaLE and they were talking about web-statndards b

Debian home security programs?

2018-05-03 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi everyone, I am wondering, given how flexible Debian can be, if this idea is possible? If it does not already exist? I now live in an apartment above a business that closes very early. One thing I miss from my old dwelling is a sort of intercom where people would buzz my code which diale

Resolved -[Re: Atypical mod to icons used to launch programs.]

2018-02-15 Thread Richard Owlett
have multiple configurations of some programs installed. I would like to use icons that are semantically related. I would like to use custom icons that are 48 high X 96 wide. These would be created joining two 48x48 icons side by side. Would the MATE panel &/or desktop accept these? Assumin

Re: Atypical mod to icons used to launch programs.

2018-02-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 06:49:29PM -0500, Forest Dean Feighner wrote: > Would there be a text based editor for svg? (top-posting confuses the hell out of me) Yes, Emacs is happy to edit an SVG. It will even switch between view as image and view at te

Re: Atypical mod to icons used to launch programs.

2018-02-14 Thread David Wright
02/14/18 10:57, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >>I use Stretch with MATE as desktop. > > > >>My current icons are from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48 . > > > >>I have multiple configurations of some programs installed. > > > >> > > >

Re: Atypical mod to icons used to launch programs.

2018-02-14 Thread Forest Dean Feighner
>I use Stretch with MATE as desktop. > > >>My current icons are from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48 . > > >>I have multiple configurations of some programs installed. > > >> > > >>I would like to use icons that are semantically related. > >

Re: Atypical mod to icons used to launch programs.

2018-02-14 Thread David Wright
gt;I have multiple configurations of some programs installed. > >> > >>I would like to use icons that are semantically related. > >>I would like to use custom icons that are 48 high X 96 wide. > >>These would be created joining two 48x48 icons side by side. > &

Re: Atypical mod to icons used to launch programs.

2018-02-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/14/2018 01:56 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 02/14/18 10:57, Richard Owlett wrote: I use Stretch with MATE as desktop. My current icons are from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48 . I have multiple configurations of some programs installed. I would like to use icons that are semantically

Re: Atypical mod to icons used to launch programs.

2018-02-14 Thread David Christensen
On 02/14/18 10:57, Richard Owlett wrote: I use Stretch with MATE as desktop. My current icons are from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48 . I have multiple configurations of some programs installed. I would like to use icons that are semantically related. I would like to use custom icons that are

Atypical mod to icons used to launch programs.

2018-02-14 Thread Richard Owlett
I use Stretch with MATE as desktop. My current icons are from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48 . I have multiple configurations of some programs installed. I would like to use icons that are semantically related. I would like to use custom icons that are 48 high X 96 wide. These would be created

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-03-13 Thread Dan Purgert
Doug wrote: > [...] > There has been a world of improvement since then. Altho I must agree > that the Man pages that include examples are a blessing! > Or a curse. Some of them have all the examples, except the one that will actually help in a situation :). Back to "try it an see what happens in

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-03-12 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there On 30/12/16 18:25, deloptes wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: Try reading what I have actually said, whilst making some attempt to understand it, instead of just contradicting it. You do enjoy contradicting people, don't you? Hah, Lisi I just got the same impression from Xen. I am glad

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-03-11 Thread Rob van der Putten
as confused reader and as best effort writer is the user's view on the programs. man pages should document the details and often do sufficiently. But the user looks for solutions, not opportunities. An interesting thing to ponder is whether a tractor manual should explain how to prepare a fie

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-03-11 Thread Doug
On 03/11/2017 06:47 AM, Martin Read wrote: On 11/03/17 08:32, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Oh, come on! What you call good documentation means writing for a user who has no clue about what the program does. That kind of documentation is *really important*, because that's a big part of

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-03-11 Thread deloptes
Martin Read wrote: > That kind of documentation is *really important*, because that's a big > part of how people who don't know how to use the software learn to use > it; not everyone has a learning style well suited to beating their head > against the brick wall of "all the documentation assumes

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-03-11 Thread Martin Read
On 11/03/17 08:32, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Oh, come on! What you call good documentation means writing for a user who has no clue about what the program does. That kind of documentation is *really important*, because that's a big part of how people who don't know how to use the softw

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