Sorry, I sent it to Modestas only, not to the list
Vlada
Original Message
Subject:Re: problems with Gnome and KDE
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 22:12:25 +0200
From: Vladimir Kerka
Reply-To: ke...@dinmont.cz
Organization: Dinmont
To: Modestas Vainius
On 06
Hello,
On pirmadienis 06 Birželis 2011 00:44:59 Vladimir Kerka wrote:
> 2. major problem: I use KDE 4.6.X from Sid, but the session crashes
> immediately after start (this is the reason, I sent the copy to
> debian-kde). I tried to rename .kde in the home, no luck. More than that,
> when I try to
On 06/08/2011 03:26 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
On Lun 06 Jun 2011 16:08:17 Vladimir Kerka escribió:
Hi, Lisandro,
thanks for your reply.
I am using Sid for several years, with no major problems, I didn't
notice crashing window manager before.
I was not sure what to report for
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 23:44:59 +0200, Vladimir Kerka wrote:
> I really need help with two problems:
> 1. minor problem: whenever I start
> Gnome, there is message like this: "Jun 5 22:55:47 dunadan
> gnome-session[4527]: WARNING: Application 'nautilus.desktop' failed to
> register before timeout"
Hi,
I really need help with two problems:
1. minor problem: whenever I start Gnome, there is message like this:
"Jun 5 22:55:47 dunadan gnome-session[4527]: WARNING: Application
'nautilus.desktop' failed to register before timeout"
in the syslog.
I cannot put anything on the desktop and there i
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Giancarlo Pegoraro
wrote:
>> I'm trying today an upgrade to my testing install after quite a while.
>> What I get is:
>>
>> gnome-network-admin: Depends: gnome-system-tools (= 2.22.1-5) but 2.28.1-1
>> is to be installed.
>> Conflicts: ne
Hi,
Il giorno lun, 16/11/2009 alle 10.42 +0100, Matteo Riva ha scritto:
> I'm trying today an upgrade to my testing install after quite a while.
> What I get is:
>
> gnome-network-admin: Depends: gnome-system-tools (= 2.22.1-5) but
> 2.28.1-1 is to be installed.
>Conflic
I'm trying today an upgrade to my testing install after quite a while.
What I get is:
gnome-network-admin: Depends: gnome-system-tools (= 2.22.1-5) but
2.28.1-1 is to be installed.
Conflicts: network-manager-gnome but 0.7.1-1 is
to be installed.
gnome-system-tools: Confl
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On 06/08/08 06:17, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 11:03:15AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> God doesn't like Kiwis?
>
> Which god?
FSM, of course!
- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
"Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, th
Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:23:04PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:17:47 +1200
> > Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > The weird thing is, it works for other people. Googling on the radix64
> >
> > Including me; I impor
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 01:05:14PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:18:01 +1200
> Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> > Are you running etch?
>
> No, Lenny here. GnuPG reports it's version 1.4.6.
Version: 1.4.6-2 for me on etch.
Although, it seems
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:18:01 +1200
Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Chris,
> Are you running etch?
No, Lenny here. GnuPG reports it's version 1.4.6.
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/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
You're a sid
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 07:53:34PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> How does your DNS server resolve subkeys.pgp.net? I see five different
> IP addresses, with preference given to either 213.239.206.174 or
> 64.71.173.107. Try if you still have this problem when you specify one
> of these IPs as the
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:23:04PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:17:47 +1200
> Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> > The weird thing is, it works for other people. Googling on the radix64
>
> Including me; I imported all three of the keys you ment
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 11:03:15AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> God doesn't like Kiwis?
Which god?
> But seriously, have you tried the verbose option?
Yes.
> > P.S. Also happens to keys: C02440B8 73CDA455
>
> They all work for me...
>
> $ gpg -v --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 73CDA455
On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 06:12 -0700, Frank McCormick wrote:
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>
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:45:47 +0100
> Brad Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:41:08 +0200
> > Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Jochen,
>
Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> How does your DNS server resolve subkeys.pgp.net? I see five different
Follow up to my last fup; no, maradns isn't the solution, sorry.
Using the IPs works, DNS times out apparently.
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Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 02:17:47 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Sorry to jump in mid thread, but since this issue has popped up I
> > thought I'd mention a problem I've been having.
> >
> > $ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 330C4
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 02:17:47 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
[...]
> Sorry to jump in mid thread, but since this issue has popped up I
> thought I'd mention a problem I've been having.
>
> $ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 330C4A75
> gpg: requesting key 330C4A75 from hkp server sub
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:17:47 +1200
Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Chris,
> The weird thing is, it works for other people. Googling on the radix64
Including me; I imported all three of the keys you mentioned without
problems. Sorry, but I don't know enough about GPG & the serve
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On 06/07/08 09:17, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 01:45:47PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:41:08 +0200
>> Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Jochen,
>>
>>> $ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --rec
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 01:45:47PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:41:08 +0200
> Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Jochen,
>
> > $ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 3710949B
> > gpg: requesting key 3710949B from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
> > gpg: key
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:20:54AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
> I use mutt, and it invokes gpg which tries to grab keys it doesn't
> already have with the same symptom... up to about 60 seconds of
> waiting. What I don't know is what's happening during that
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:20:54 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Andrew,
> waiting. What I don't know is what's happening during that wait. Is it
> a matter of gpg not being able to contact the servers or do the
> servers take that long to run the query. It seems to run in
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 08:25:35AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:17:54 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Andrew,
>
> > What keyserver are you using Brad? I typically use mit, but the lag
>
> hkp://subkeys.pgp.net
>
> > days because it takes t
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:29:16 -0400
Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Frank,
> No, Frank also knows, That key was uploaded months ago.
Yes, of course you do. My comment was not meant to reflect on you in
any way.
It's just typical that things updated at about the time of my prob
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On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:25:35 +0100
Brad Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:17:54 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > What keyserver are you using Brad? I typically use mit, but the lag
> Was it me
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:17:54 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Andrew,
> What keyserver are you using Brad? I typically use mit, but the lag
hkp://subkeys.pgp.net
> days because it takes too long. I finally just now waited it
> out... about 45 seconds (okay, I guess I'
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On 06/05/08 22:17, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 03:56:00PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:12:14 -0400
>> Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Frank,
>>
>>> Typical is right - half the s
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 03:56:00PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:12:14 -0400
> Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Frank,
>
> > Typical is right - half the signed messages I get can't be verified.
>
> For me, that's a rare occurrence. Hence my calling att
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On 06/04/08 08:15, Frank McCormick wrote:
[snip]
>
> Strange. The name according to htop and top is gnome-appearances and it
> appears to be spunoff by GDM.
Ah, that's why I don't see it!
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Jefferson LA USA
"Kittens give Morb
On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:12:14 -0400
Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Frank,
> Typical is right - half the signed messages I get can't be verified.
For me, that's a rare occurrence. Hence my calling attention to your
posts. As some would say; "Go figure"
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On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:06:12 -0700
freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 01:59:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> >
> > On 06/03/08 08:29, Frank McCormick wrote:
> > >
> > >
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:45:47 +0100
Brad Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:41:08 +0200
> Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Jochen,
>
> > $ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 3710949B
> > gpg: requesti
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:41:08 +0200
Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Jochen,
> $ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 3710949B
> gpg: requesting key 3710949B from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
> gpg: key 3710949B: "Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed
> gpg: Total numb
Brad Rogers:
> Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> All's well that ends.
>
> Indeed.
>
> Now, where is your PGP public key? It doesn't appear to be on the
> regular servers. As such, signing messages is, pretty much, redundant.
$ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 3710949
On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:27:59 -0400
Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Frank,
> All's well that ends.
Indeed.
Now, where is your PGP public key? It doesn't appear to be on the
regular servers. As such, signing messages is, pretty much, redundant.
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/ )
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 01:59:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> On 06/03/08 08:29, Frank McCormick wrote:
> >
> > After months of using IceWm, I installed gnome-core to get some of the
> > functions only available with Gnome. Now eveytime I use
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For future reference--- I had a GTK2.0-rc file sitting in my home dir.
Drove Gnome absolutely nuts!!
All's well that ends.
On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:46:23 -0400
Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:59:04 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On 06/03/08 08:29, Frank McCormick wrote:
> >
> > After months of using IceWm, I installed gnome-core to get some of
>
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On 06/03/08 08:29, Frank McCormick wrote:
>
> After months of using IceWm, I installed gnome-core to get some of the
> functions only available with Gnome. Now eveytime I use the appearance
> item on the menu, when I am finished, gnome-appearance st
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After months of using IceWm, I installed gnome-core to get some of the
functions only available with Gnome. Now eveytime I use the appearance
item on the menu, when I am finished, gnome-appearance stays running,
consuming 50% of cpu. I have to kill
On Dec 29, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Yavor Doganov wrote:
Rick Thomas wrote:
The computer in question is an OldWorld PowerMac Apple Macintosh,
"Beige G3" tower. This problem only happens on this machine. It
does not occur on my G4 test box.
I have a Beige G3 "Gossamer", not a tower, but it's prac
Oh, that's a nasty #404876; I'll try to provide a useful backtrace. I
really should read all messges before replying.
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Rick Thomas wrote:
>
> The computer in question is an OldWorld PowerMac Apple Macintosh,
> "Beige G3" tower. This problem only happens on this machine. It
> does not occur on my G4 test box.
I have a Beige G3 "Gossamer", not a tower, but it's practically the
same.
> I'd very much appreciat
* Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [061113 15:13]:
> I am running Debian Etch and using the gnome desktop. I also have cups
> installed as well as some KDE apps.
>
> When I go to the CUPS printer administration page I can print test pages to
> all my networked printers. I can also print to the
Hi,
I am running Debian Etch and using the gnome desktop. I also have cups
installed as well as some KDE apps.
When I go to the CUPS printer administration page I can print test pages to
all my networked printers. I can also print to the printers from Firefox and
Kontact.
However, I cannot p
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 15:06:31 -0600, edwardsa wrote:
>I just upgraded a laptop running stable to testing and the gnome
>terminal seems partially broken. There is now task bar with "File
>Edit ..." Also, the font is rather large and stuck. Is there a config
>file through which I can change this
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 15:06:31 -0600, edwardsa wrote:
>I just upgraded a laptop running stable to testing and the gnome
>terminal seems partially broken. There is now task bar with "File
>Edit ..." Also, the font is rather large and stuck. Is there a config
>file through which I can change this
I just upgraded a laptop running stable to testing and the gnome
terminal seems partially broken. There is now task bar with
"File Edit ..." Also, the font is rather large and stuck.
Is there a config file through which I can change this?
Thanks,
Art Edwards
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Senior Rese
On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 15:37 -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote:
> Sorry, I`ve mistaken the e-mails.
>
> Anyway, as I told before I`m having trouble with Gnome, as it doesn`t
> show the panel saying that there`s already a panel running, doesn`t
> show desktop icons or the main menu. As a palliative method
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In addition to killing the errant gnome processes, I'd:
$ mv .gnome .gnome.old
$ mv .gnome2 .gnome2.old
$ mv .gnome2_private .gnome2_private.old
And then run startx.
Rodrigo Castro wrote:
> Sorry, I`ve mistaken the e-mails.
>
> Anyway, as I told be
Sorry, I`ve mistaken the e-mails.Anyway, as I told before I`m having trouble with Gnome, as it doesn`t show the panel saying that there`s already a panel running, doesn`t show desktop icons or the main menu. As a palliative method to solve this I`ve been removing files such as .xsession-errors .gtk
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Rodrigo Castro wrote:
> These panel problems appears when I log through gdm.
Disable gdm and use startx from the CLI. This way, *before* you run
startx, run "ps aux | grep gnome" to see if there are any errant
processes hanging around.
> On 9/5/06,
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Rodrigo Castro wrote:
> Gnome's been giving me trouble recently. Sometime it doesn't show the main
> menu, the archives listed on desktop or doesn't initialize the panel saying
> that there's already a running panel. I've been deleting some archives li
Gnome's been giving me trouble recently. Sometime it doesn't show the main menu, the archives listed on desktop or doesn't initialize the panel saying that there's already a running panel. I've been deleting some archives like .xsession-errors .gtkrc* and so on. But this isn't always successful. An
dbus-1 will be removed anyway
you should recompile package, which depends on dbus-1 with new version
of dbus (0.60)
or you can install them from unstable
Or you can wait untill dbus 0.60 transition ends, and all packages
will be recompiled agains dbus 0.60 and hal 0.5.*
On 2/14/06, André Wendt
Hello,
with last update of my debian I have installed Gnome 2.2.
However when it started up for the first time I received this error
message:
--
There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.
Some things, such as themes, sounds, or backgr
Hello,
I have some problems with gnome-terminal (and others too for that
matter).
First of all there's the key configuration. I like to use BitchX in a
terminal window but if I have hidden screens enabled there I need to be
able to switch between them using +1 through 10. This does not
work
I know that this has already been said by both Eric and Crispin, but just to
reiterate, DO NOT USE THE XIMIAN PACKAGES (sorry for shouting). The last time
I tried them out (which was over a year ago), they were utter crap. Using the
official deb packages and apt-get are going to make your life
On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 14:52, Angel L. Mateo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I used redhat 7.2 with ximian gnome until this week that I have
> installed debian instead of redhat. I installed potato and then I
> upgraded to woody.
>
> To install ximian gnome I add
> deb http://red-carpet.ximian.co
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:52:43AM +0200, Angel L. Mateo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I used redhat 7.2 with ximian gnome until this week that I have
> installed debian instead of redhat. I installed potato and then I
> upgraded to woody.
^
>
> To install ximian gnome I add
Hello,
I used redhat 7.2 with ximian gnome until this week that I have
installed debian instead of redhat. I installed potato and then I
upgraded to woody.
To install ximian gnome I add
deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main to the sources.list
file and then I run "a
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 07:52:01PM +0100, Raphaël Scateni wrote:
| Hi,
|
| I am running debian woody, with gnome 1.4
| When launching gnome, i have a message
How are you launching gnome? Via 'startx' or gdm?
| Desk guide alert
|gnome desktop guide
|you are running a gnome compliant wind
On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 19:52, Raphaël Scateni wrote:
Hello Raphaël,
>
> Desk guide alert
>gnome desktop guide
>you are running a gnome compliant window manager
> gnome support by the window manager is strongly recommended for proper
> desk guide operation.
GNOME users often tend to use
Hi,
I am running debian woody, with gnome 1.4
When launching gnome, i have a message
Desk guide alert
gnome desktop guide
you are running a gnome compliant window manager
gnome support by the window manager is strongly recommended for proper
desk guide operation.
Moreover, some details a
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 10:05:59AM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
| I finally bit the bullet, and "upgraded" one of my Progeny machines to
| woody this weekend.
|
| Things went reasonably well, althoug certainly not automaticly.
|
| In any case, when I loged inot a Gnome session, things were not very
|
I finally bit the bullet, and "upgraded" one of my Progeny machines to
woody this weekend.
Things went reasonably well, althoug certainly not automaticly.
In any case, when I loged inot a Gnome session, things were not very
useable, so I loged out, deleted .gnom* .esd* .saw* and loged back in.
W
Hi everybody!!
After some upgrading to my system, which now is a nice mixture of
stable,
testing and unstable (sic!) I found that my gnome-terminal (most probably from
unstable) does not work anymore!! It fails with the following message:
GnomeUI-WARNING **: Could not open help topics
Heh, I think my subject line has covered all the bases :o)
Up until recently, I was happy using gdm and Gnome, then having managed
to free up a second monitor I thought I'd give Xinerama a whirl.
Everything was OK... sort of; it worked, but X suddently acquired an
unpleasant habit of locking solid
On 2000-10-05 11:40:20, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:
> "Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Ok, so I install windowmaker, and chose it in the gnome control panel.
> > It's listed as my current WM. However, I'm in enlightenment.
>
> Try to change to enlightenment and then immedi
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 11:40:20AM +0200, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:
>
> Try to change to enlightenment and then immediately change back to
> WindowMaker. This helped with WindowMaker and sawfish here, when I
> wanted to run sawfish and after some major upgrading Gnome didn't
> recognize any wm runn
"Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ok, so I install windowmaker, and chose it in the gnome control panel.
> It's listed as my current WM. However, I'm in enlightenment.
Try to change to enlightenment and then immediately change back to
WindowMaker. This helped with WindowMake
Ok, so I install windowmaker, and chose it in the gnome control panel.
It's listed as my current WM. However, I'm in enlightenment.
?? I don't think the control-panel is all that accurate on the matter...
Mike
--
Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"...the word HACK is used as a
All of a sudden Netscape Communicator 4.72 is taking a long time to
'start', and it seems to lock up all of gnome as well. After a few
minutes the home page opens and everything else works. While Netscape
is 'initializing' the mouse cursor moves, but anything on the desktop
that I click on does n
Hi all-
I decided to grab the latest deb gnome stuff to play with a bit. I got the
task stuff installed, got the regular games installed, but when I go to get
the gnome-card-games deb installed, I get something like this:
Unpacking libguile6 (from .../libguile6_1%3a1.3.4-2_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: er
--- Cameron Matheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I downloaded GNOME last night with apt, and it seems like it installed the
> programs that come with GNOME, but when I boot up, the GNOME bar-type thing
> isn't there.
You mean the panel? Package gnome-panel IIRC.
The easiest way to get a worki
Hey,
I downloaded GNOME last night with apt, and it seems like it installed the
programs that come with GNOME, but when I boot up, the GNOME bar-type thing
isn't there. Do I need to configure something to do this?
One more problem. A little while ago, I mailed about using 'pon' as a
normal user
My problem is that when I use the gnome panel and pager app in
WindowMaker my settings for the pager are not saved. I have made a
little icon that autostarts the panel upon starting X but the pager app
reverts to its default settings. I have the latest deb package for
Debian Linux and the gnome
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