Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 11:07:16 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > 15.04.2012 00:53, Camaleón kirjoitti: <...> >> >> P.S. I find quite hard to understand why there are users who despite >> consider my postings to be sort a "newbie killers" and "soft-mind >> perverters" are still replying to them. The

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-15 Thread Mika Suomalainen
15.04.2012 00:53, Camaleón kirjoitti: <...> > > P.S. I find quite hard to understand why there are users who despite > consider my postings to be sort a "newbie killers" and "soft-mind > perverters" are still replying to them. The only conclusion I can reach > for this behaviour is that: 1/ my

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 02:59:02 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 05:03:41PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> «In the interleaved reply style (also called "inline reply", "point-by- >> point rebuttal", or, sometimes, "bottom posting")...» >^^

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 05:03:41PM +, Camaleón wrote: > «In the interleaved reply style (also called "inline reply", "point-by- > point rebuttal", or, sometimes, "bottom posting")...» ^^^ > «In the "bottom-posting" style, the reply is appended to

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 01:38:59PM -0700, Al Eridani wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Chris Bannister > wrote: > > > But you said above, and I quote: > > > > 'A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the bottom" > > > > and now you are saying in response to > > > > "So

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-12 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:18:28 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 11 apr 12, 17:03:41, Camaleón wrote: >> >> «In the "bottom-posting" style, the reply is appended to a full or >> partial copy of the original message. The name bottom-posting is >> sometimes used for inline-style replies, and inde

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 11 apr 12, 17:03:41, Camaleón wrote: > > «In the "bottom-posting" style, the reply is appended to a full or > partial copy of the original message. The name bottom-posting is > sometimes used for inline-style replies, and indeed the two formats are > the same when only one point is being

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-11 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:51:48 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 11 apr 12, 15:44:29, Camaleón wrote: >> >> > Just because somebody chooses to stay out of this thread does not >> > mean one automatically agrees with you ;) >> >> It's not *me* who says so, it's written in the Wikipedia article,

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 11 apr 12, 15:44:29, Camaleón wrote: > > > Just because somebody chooses to stay out of this thread does not mean > > one automatically agrees with you ;) > > It's not *me* who says so, it's written in the Wikipedia article, you > will have to ask the author why he/she thinks so :-) That

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-11 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:26:12 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 09 apr 12, 13:34:59, Camaleón wrote: >> >> To me (and everybody else), both are almost the same. > > Could you please explain the "everybody else" part? As I guess you've followed the whole thread, what's exactly what you don't

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 apr 12, 13:34:59, Camaleón wrote: > > To me (and everybody else), both are almost the same. Could you please explain the "everybody else" part? Just because somebody chooses to stay out of this thread does not mean one automatically agrees with you ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopi

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-09 Thread Al Eridani
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > But you said above, and I quote: > > 'A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the bottom" > > and now you are saying in response to > > "So what's it called when you plonk everything at the bottom, oops > sorry, at the

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-09 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 06:48:23 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 02:18:48PM +, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> > So what's it called when you plonk everything at the bottom, oops >> > sorry, at the very end? End posting? >> >> That's also "bottom posting". No need to reinvent t

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 02:18:48PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> >> A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the > >> >> bottom" > >> > > >> > Yes it do

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-08 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, Chris Bannister wrote: > > No, you are confused. There are three entirely different distinct styles: > 1) Top posting > 2) Bottom posting > 3) Interleaved, inline, conversation. style. > > Therefore, it makes sense to have *THREE* different definitions. > correct? > There are

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> >> A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the >> >> bottom" >> > >> > Yes it does! That is what bottom posting is. >> >> No sir, is just the name what i

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:11:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:03:05PM +, Camaleón wrote: > >> Bottom posting has been since long the preferred method for newsgroups > >> and then mailing lists but not for

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:11:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:03:05PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> Bottom posting has been since long the preferred method for newsgroups >> and then mailing lists but not for forums nor business communications. >> >> A bottom posting style d

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:03:05PM +, Camaleón wrote: > Bottom posting has been since long the preferred method for newsgroups > and then mailing lists but not for forums nor business communications. > > A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the bottom" Yes it does! Th

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-04-01 Thread Brian
On Sun 01 Apr 2012 at 14:04:05 +, Camaleón wrote: > *** > http://www.openprinting.org/ppd-o-matic.php?driver=pxlcolor&printer=Generic-PCL_6_PCL_XL_Printer&show=1 > > *OpenUI *Duplex/Double-Sided Printing: PickOne > (...) > *** Without leaving the comfort of your fireside and with foomatic-db

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-04-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:28:09 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > 2012/3/31 Camaleón : >> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:00:23 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: >> >>> 2012/3/30 Brian : >> >> (...) >> The PDF file is unlikely to be the problem. >>> It is obviously not a driver problem, as the driver from K

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-31 Thread Brian
On Sat 31 Mar 2012 at 20:28:09 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > Hey guys, thanks for your answers! > So the current state is the following: > > 1.) With the Generic-PCL-6-PCL-XL, everything works fine and the PDF > is printed without any problems. This is fine for me for the moment, > of course, du

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-31 Thread Leonard Le-Rey
2012/3/31 Camaleón : > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:00:23 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > >> 2012/3/30 Brian : > > (...) > >>> The PDF file is unlikely to be the problem. >>> >> It is obviously not a driver problem, as the driver from Kyocera is the >> most recent and works fine on other systems (such as

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-31 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:00:23 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > 2012/3/30 Brian : (...) >> The PDF file is unlikely to be the problem. >> > It is obviously not a driver problem, as the driver from Kyocera is the > most recent and works fine on other systems (such as Ubuntu 11.10). (...) You can't

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Mar 2012 at 20:00:23 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > It is obviously not a driver problem, as the driver from Kyocera is > the most recent and works fine on other systems (such as Ubuntu > 11.10). So as you suggested, it is the cups which is affected - as > reported by others. Hence I wil

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Leonard Le-Rey
2012/3/30 Brian : > On Fri 30 Mar 2012 at 16:29:40 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > >> Debian testing (wheezy) has recognized the network printer Kyocera >> FSC-5100DN correctly, I have first taken the driver offered by Debian >> and then the one offered by Kyocera. If

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Mar 2012 at 16:29:40 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > Debian testing (wheezy) has recognized the network printer Kyocera > FSC-5100DN correctly, I have first taken the driver offered by Debian > and then the one offered by Kyocera. If I print I standard text > document create

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:34:54 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:25:42 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: >> >>> Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" styles? >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style >

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-03-30 Thread Lisi
On Friday 30 March 2012 16:34:54 Paul Johnson wrote: > Though it's generally ideal to go with a conversational style, > inserting new text within the quoted material for context.  Top > posting almost never meets this, bottom posting only works when the > post you're responding to is very short. S

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-03-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:25:42 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > >> Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" styles? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style Though it's generally ideal to go with a conversational style, in

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Allan Wind
On 2012-03-30 16:29:40, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > If I want to > print a PDF produced by pdfLaTex, it might print one page but if I > print a larger amount, I get the following printout error message: > > ERROR: > undefined > OFFENDING COMMAND: > m > STACK: > --nostringval-- > 133 > > and nothing i

[OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:25:42 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" styles? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" styles? On 30.03.2012 18:21, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:53:24 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > > (pelase, keep a bottom-posting style, thanks :-) ) > >> 2012/3/30 Camaleón : >

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:53:24 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: (pelase, keep a bottom-posting style, thanks :-) ) > 2012/3/30 Camaleón : (...) >>> Is there a way to take the Ubuntu PPD file? And if, how I get it to >>> try on the Debian system? >> >> Yes, just copy/paste from one computer to the ot

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Leonard Le-Rey
thing proper... Thanks! 2012/3/30 Camaleón : > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:29:40 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > >> Debian testing (wheezy) has recognized the network printer Kyocera >> FSC-5100DN correctly, I have first taken the driver offered by Debian >> and then the one off

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:29:40 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > Debian testing (wheezy) has recognized the network printer Kyocera > FSC-5100DN correctly, I have first taken the driver offered by Debian > and then the one offered by Kyocera. If I print I standard text document > create

printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Leonard Le-Rey
Hey guys, Debian testing (wheezy) has recognized the network printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN correctly, I have first taken the driver offered by Debian and then the one offered by Kyocera. If I print I standard text document created for eg. by Libre Office, it works fine. If I want to print a PDF