Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On Fri 30 Apr 2021 at 19:17:55 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Now I wonder how this might enable random access to the nth > > character. I will keep looking around. > > Another part of the question is: why would someone give you the position > information in terms of characters rather than in

OT: alpha-offset format (was Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...)

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 Albretch Mueller wrote: [dd] about the alpha-offset encoding, please, givie me some time to answer your questions, Of course. Whenever. No hurry. write up the idea more fully, clearly I won't discourage anyone determined to explain the tools of their specialty to the la

[OFFTOPIC] Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

> Now I wonder how this might enable random access to the nth > character. I will keep looking around. Another part of the question is: why would someone give you the position information in terms of characters rather than in terms of (say) bytes, or words, or ... Stefan

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 Albretch Mueller wrote: What is "alpha-offset format"? we, corpora research kinds of folks, need to process thousand of files as other people process bytes. That was a helpful clue, that it could be a term of art in corpus linguistics. After some searches in that directio

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

> I haven't seen anyone mention apt-offline in this thread, so I will > mention it now: > >apt-offline is an Offline APT Package Manager. >. >apt-offline can fully update and upgrade an APT based distribution >without connecting to the network, all of it transparent to APT. >. >

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On Thu 29 Apr 2021 at 11:33:29 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, April 29, 2021 09:03:59 AM Albretch Mueller wrote: > > > What is "alpha-offset format"? > > > > we, corpora research kinds of folks, need to process thousand of > > files as other people process bytes. UTF8 was basic

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 09:03:59 AM Albretch Mueller wrote: > > What is "alpha-offset format"? > > we, corpora research kinds of folks, need to process thousand of > files as other people process bytes. UTF8 was basically an > Americanizierung of alle alphabets. UTF is great to describe an >

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On 29/04/2021 14:03, Albretch Mueller wrote: >> What is "alpha-offset format"? > we, corpora research kinds of folks, need to process thousand of > files as other people process bytes. UTF8 was basically an > Americanizierung of alle alphabets. UTF is great to describe an > alphabet but not for t

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

> What is "alpha-offset format"? we, corpora research kinds of folks, need to process thousand of files as other people process bytes. UTF8 was basically an Americanizierung of alle alphabets. UTF is great to describe an alphabet but not for text files. UTF8 turned all files into streams not go

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

davidson wrote: > > I would like for Debian to make more official an offline mode for > > using apt probably based on java, so that any machine could be used to > > download packages to be then installed off-line for those of us who > > don't/can't see the Internet as a trusted environment. > > I

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 Albretch Mueller wrote: [snip] I will get "married" to Debian (why not? some people would marry their pets ... ;-)) if it includes the following startup options right of the live DVD: * toram * memtest * testCD In my opinion none of those functions are hard to include at al

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 Albretch Mueller wrote: Or toggle "javascript.enabled" to false in "about:config" - no extensions required. the assumption being that you would use, trust firefox. A well-documented, XML-based open source kind of proxy/gateway through which all requests are sent and received

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 Albretch Mueller wrote: On Thu 22 Apr 2021 Dan Ritter wrote: What you lose this way (besides time) is having apt calculate which supporting packages you need. However, https://packages.debian.org will happily tell you all the dependencies of any given package, and then y

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

> Or toggle "javascript.enabled" to false in "about:config" - no > extensions required. the assumption being that you would use, trust firefox. A well-documented, XML-based open source kind of proxy/gateway through which all requests are sent and received would work with any browser. ~ I think,

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 15:43:12 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: ... > undefined. JavaScript is just a language; there's nothing > special about it that can't be done in Haskell, Forth or > Fortran. Web browsers tend to implement it, but you can also > turn it off altogether -- e.g. I can think of three dif

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

Albretch Mueller wrote: > > What you lose this way (besides time) is having apt calculate > > which supporting packages you need. However, > > > https://packages.debian.org > > > will happily tell you all the dependencies of any given package, > > and then you can get all the dependencies of eac

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

> What you lose this way (besides time) is having apt calculate > which supporting packages you need. However, > https://packages.debian.org > will happily tell you all the dependencies of any given package, > and then you can get all the dependencies of each of those, and > so on. yes, and "ja

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On 22/04/2021 20:53, Albretch Mueller wrote: [cut] > I would also love to see networking taken out of the Linux kernel, > but this is an entirely different, hellishly "political" issue. It's not quite the same thing, but you might be able to get what you want with the Debian HURD port

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

Albretch Mueller wrote: > > I would also love to see networking taken out of the Linux kernel, > but this is an entirely different, hellishly "political" issue. You can compile your own kernel with no hardware network drivers. -dsr-

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

Albretch Mueller wrote: > You can -almost- always go monkey and do that one way or another, but > I would like for Debian to make more official an offline mode for > using apt probably based on java, so that any machine could be used to > download packages to be then installed off-line for tho

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

Debian doesn't stop to amaze me. I have an "old" 2 GiB RAM MacAirbook1,1 without its hard drive and without internal CMOS timing and with only one USB port (I wonder what those folks were thinking about when they designed those laptops). A Debian live DVD boots fine from a USB hub, then I go "hw

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On 15.04.2021 23:14, Albretch Mueller wrote: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/PCI/msi-howto.html thank you. it was a confusing coincidence. The thing is that the motherboard on that box is an: MSI MS-7641 Ver.3.0 + AMD Athlon II x2 250 the two links were very good but also "too interta

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

Le 15/04/2021 à 20:14, Albretch Mueller a écrit : [...] and I haven't been able to find their manual/specs for that board online (most probably for other reasons) [...] MSI MS-7641 Ver.3.0 + AMD Athlon II x2 250 [...] the page of this MB support on the MSI website: https://www.msi.com/Mother

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

> What I suggest would be to investigate if your BIOS or UEFI has particular > settings for PCI and try > to adapt them to the hardware present and the OS installed/to be installed. > As a further measure, you could try to play with the different kernel > parameters to see if there is an > impro

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

Gene Heskett wrote: > > Or you could do what I did after fighting with an msi board for several > years a decade back, feed it to the trash can and replace it with an ARK MSI the motherboard manufacturer has nothing to do with the PCI feature we are discussing here. https://www.kernel.org/d

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

> knoppix64 debug pci=nomsi noapic > > > > > > I would get just two lines further bellow: > > > > > > pci :00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled > > > PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11 > > > PCI: setting IRQ 11 a

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On Thursday 15 April 2021 03:50:19 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 15/04/2021 à 02:29, Albretch Mueller a écrit : > > if I boot up passing to the kernel the start up option: > > > > knoppix64 debug pci=nomsi noapic > > > > I would get just two lines further bellow

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

Le 15/04/2021 à 02:29, Albretch Mueller a écrit : if I boot up passing to the kernel the start up option: knoppix64 debug pci=nomsi noapic I would get just two lines further bellow: pci :00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

> You could then try to boot with the pci=nomsi boot parameter ... if I boot up passing to the kernel the start up option: knoppix64 debug pci=nomsi noapic I would get just two lines further bellow: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled PCI Interrupt Link [L

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

Hello, I think that this error message is not about MSI-the-manufacturer but that here MSI stands for Message Signaled Interrupt: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/PCI/msi-howto.html You could then try to boot with the pci=nomsi boot parameter to see if your PC boots properly. But the

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

On Wed 14 Apr 2021 at 11:26:53 (-0400), Albretch Mueller wrote: > is the error message I get when I try to start a PC based on an MSI > motherboard, with both Debian live an Knoppix (which is a bit more > flexible about start up options) > > How can I get passed that error in order to be able to

pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

is the error message I get when I try to start a PC based on an MSI motherboard, with both Debian live an Knoppix (which is a bit more flexible about start up options) How can I get passed that error in order to be able to use and install Debian live or Knoppix? I have tried a number of options