Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-16 Thread Cousin Stanley
On 3/15/22 19:20, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: apt-cache stats Thought it might prove of interest for others, too, with respect to seeing real numbers about the amazing volume of packages all interacting together under Debian's hood. Thanks I was not aware of this apt-cache option an

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 3/15/22, Dan Ritter wrote: > Cousin Stanley wrote: >> Cousin Stanley wrote : >> > The data is already on your system, so >> > there's no transmission happening. >> >> I do not understand this. > ... > >> Does the Debian package manager >> really download package information >> for al

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Cousin Stanley wrote: > Cousin Stanley wrote : > > The data is already on your system, so > > there's no transmission happening. > > I do not understand this. ... > Does the Debian package manager > really download package information > for all ~59,000 avaiilabel packages > in an

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Curt
On 2022-03-15, Cousin Stanley wrote: > >> Whether or not you want to see it >> is a different issue. > > I understand this. > >> The data is already on your system, so >> there's no transmission happening. > > I do not understand this. > > I was under the impression that > package info

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Tue, Mar 15 2022 at 08:28:41 AM, Cousin Stanley wrote: > > > > I was under the impression that > package information returned by > > apt-cache show some-package > > for packages that I have not installed > would not be downloaded onto my system > until I actually requested

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 08:28:41AM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > I was under the impression that > package information returned by > > apt-cache show some-package > > for packages that I have not installed > would not be downloaded onto my system > until I actually requested

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Cousin Stanley
Cousin Stanley wrote : >> What I don't understand is the necessity >> to transmit a string of 3933 bytes >> for 87 golang packages for example >> when a link to the same would suffice >> for those that actually require it. Dan Ritter wrote : > The package manager needs it. I understand this.

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 06:36:52AM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > No, it seems you haven't understood. > > > > I assure you that I do understand the need > for access to the Built-Using list. > > What I don't understand is the necessity > to transmit

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Cousin Stanley wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > No, it seems you haven't understood. > > > > I assure you that I do understand the need > for access to the Built-Using list. > > What I don't understand is the necessity > to transmit a string of 3933 bytes > for 87 golang

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-15 Thread Cousin Stanley
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > No, it seems you haven't understood. > I assure you that I do understand the need for access to the Built-Using list. What I don't understand is the necessity to transmit a string of 3933 bytes for 87 golang packages for example when a link to the sa

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 05:23:02PM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > Not having Built-Using is just like not having dependencies. > > Thanks for the explanation. > > I can understand the need for the Built-Using list > for the developers that need it. No, it

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread songbird
Cousin Stanley wrote: > Reading this newsgroup earlier today > someone mentioned the hugo package > for static site generation. > > I was curious about the package > so I tried > > $ apt-cache show hugo ... i have been building hugo on my Debian system for quite a while

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 05:37:30PM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > How about: > > > > $ apt-cache show hugo | grep -v '^Built-Using:' > > > > which you could wrap into a function. > > > > I don't mind the Built-Using list at all > for reasonable sized lists and I

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Cousin Stanley
David Wright wrote: > How about: > > $ apt-cache show hugo | grep -v '^Built-Using:' > > which you could wrap into a function. > I don't mind the Built-Using list at all for reasonable sized lists and I wouldn't care to remove it altogether. I can use your suggestion to remove it

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Cousin Stanley
Dan Ritter wrote: > > Not having Built-Using is just like not having dependencies. Thanks for the explanation. I can understand the need for the Built-Using list for the developers that need it. In cases such as that for the l o n g list returned for golang built packages like

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Mar 2022 at 16:33:42 (-0700), Cousin Stanley wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > So this information is needed for the developers and packagers, > > but I suppose you could argue that it is information overload > > for the casual user of "apt show". > > It seems to be information

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Cousin Stanley
Andy Smith wrote: > > So this information is needed for the developers and packagers, > but I suppose you could argue that it is information overload > for the casual user of "apt show". It seems to be information overload for me pesonally. Perhaps a link to the relevant golang list

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Cousin Stanley wrote: > Reading this newsgroup earlier today > someone mentioned the hugo package > for static site generation. > > I was curious about the package > so I tried > > $ apt-cache show hugo > > The usual package information was returned > along with, in my

Re: packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:53:21PM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > $ apt-cache show hugo > > The usual package information was returned > along with, in my opinion, an unsightly mess > entailing a long string of 88 entries > naming individual golang packages > following Buil

packages built with golang

2022-03-14 Thread Cousin Stanley
Reading this newsgroup earlier today someone mentioned the hugo package for static site generation. I was curious about the package so I tried $ apt-cache show hugo The usual package information was returned along with, in my opinion, an unsightly mess entailing a lon