On Monday, August 28, 2017 04:55:11 AM Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> rhkra...@gmail.com:
> > Well, even a vague note on the page something like:
> >
> > "Some of this seems to be out of date with the advent of systemd and
> > its adoption in Debian starting with version n.n ().
> > If you can
rhkra...@gmail.com:
Well, even a vague note on the page something like:
"Some of this seems to be out of date with the advent of systemd and
its adoption in Debian starting with version n.n ().
If you can contribute anything more to this story, please do."
...would be a start.
That sort of
Greg Wooledge:
Gene's copy/paste was crude, but his point was essentially valid:
No, it was not. I remind you of xyr point which was:
Gene Heskett:
So if you call it widely publicized it fails that definition AFAIAC.
That I pointed to 9 different copies, including copies on Debian's ow
Felix Miata:
The problem with software documentation wikis is the people in best
position to know what they should contain have no incentive to do the
update work. To write useful docs requires knowledge what should be in
them. That knowledge is mostly possessed by those writing and changing
On Monday 21 August 2017 09:06:27 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 06:35:09PM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
wrote:
> > Debian 7 has those very manual pages:
> >
> >
> > * https://manpages.debian.org/wheezy/upstart/inittab.5.en.html
>
> Gene's copy/paste was crude, but his point w
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 06:35:09PM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> Debian 7 has those very manual pages:
>
>
> * https://manpages.debian.org/wheezy/upstart/inittab.5.en.html
Gene's copy/paste was crude, but his point was essentially valid:
the inittab(5) page on a *real* wheezy system
On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 15:05:51 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
[Lots and lots of brutal snipping]
> ===
>
> > * https://manpages.debian.org/wheezy/systemd-sysv/runlevel.8.en.html
>
> Which is even older with a 1997 origin date.
>
> I won't waste the bandwidth
On Saturday 19 August 2017 13:35:09 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> Jonathan de Boyne Pollard:
> > Furthermore: In this *particular* regard, the developer-provided
> > doco actually *is* clear. The upstart manual page for inittab has
> > been warning that the file is obsolete for over ten years
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard:
Furthermore: In this *particular* regard, the developer-provided doco
actually *is* clear. The upstart manual page for inittab has been
warning that the file is obsolete for over ten years, and that manual
page is copied all over the WWW making it fairly easy to come
On Saturday 19 August 2017 05:32:25 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> Felix Miata:
> > What's needed is incentive for code creators to simultaneously
> > document, with ample examples that man pages usually omit, even if
> > it's only in formal, non-wikified docs that wikis can point to.
That wo
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
The systemd people have not explicitly documented inittab, as the upstart
people did, although they have explicitly documented run levels as "obsolete"
in the systemd manual page for runlevel. This, too, has been copied around the
WWW, albe
Felix Miata:
What's needed is incentive for code creators to simultaneously
document, with ample examples that man pages usually omit, even if
it's only in formal, non-wikified docs that wikis can point to.
Gene Heskett:
It should be an iron-clad rule that a developer submitting his itch
On Wed 16 Aug 2017 at 08:28:57 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 01:09:54 PM Brian wrote:
> > The wiki page is at https://wiki.debian.org/Init
> >
> > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 10:07:07 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > Well, even a vague note on the page somethi
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 01:09:54 PM Brian wrote:
> The wiki page is at https://wiki.debian.org/Init
>
> On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 10:07:07 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Well, even a vague note on the page something like:
> >
> > "Some of this seems to be out of date with the advent of sy
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 06:09:54PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> The wiki page is at https://wiki.debian.org/Init
Thanks.
The wiki page is at https://wiki.debian.org/Init
On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 10:07:07 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 14, 2017 05:39:40 PM Felix Miata wrote:
> > Brian composed on 2017-08-14 22:10 (UTC+0100):
> > > I take it you are not up for altering the Init page?
> >
> > I l
On Monday, August 14, 2017 05:39:40 PM Felix Miata wrote:
> Brian composed on 2017-08-14 22:10 (UTC+0100):
> > I take it you are not up for altering the Init page?
>
> I looked in the thread and was unable to find that anyone had provided a
> URL for "the Init page". Without seeing the particular
On Monday 14 August 2017 16:33:40 Felix Miata wrote:
> Brian composed on 2017-08-14 20:22 (UTC+0100):
> > So - what should be done about the wiki? Surely, that is the thrust
> > of the OP's question. Altering the wiki page is relatively
> > straightforward. A single user (or group of users) trying
Brian composed on 2017-08-14 22:10 (UTC+0100):
> I take it you are not up for altering the Init page?
I looked in the thread and was unable to find that anyone had provided a URL for
"the Init page". Without seeing the particular page in question I can't answer,
but I'm guessing the answer would
On Mon 14 Aug 2017 at 16:33:40 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Brian composed on 2017-08-14 20:22 (UTC+0100):
>
> > So - what should be done about the wiki? Surely, that is the thrust of
> > the OP's question. Altering the wiki page is relatively straightforward.
> > A single user (or group of users)
Brian composed on 2017-08-14 20:22 (UTC+0100):
> So - what should be done about the wiki? Surely, that is the thrust of
> the OP's question. Altering the wiki page is relatively straightforward.
> A single user (or group of users) trying to alter the init system policy
> is doomed to failure, no m
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