Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 26 October 2018 09:53:39 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:29:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > and it goes out on the net and checks > > all servers before ntpq -p is completed, take 5 or 6 seconds to do > > that, > > That's DNS resolution. It's looking up the IP addr

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:44:47AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: As I'm fond of saying TANSTAAFL. If we all, with multiple machine sites, did this it would make a measureable difference in bandwidth used If people want to set up local ntp servers, great. But just configure the clients with a ser

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:29:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > and it goes out on the net and checks > all servers before ntpq -p is completed, take 5 or 6 seconds to do that, That's DNS resolution. It's looking up the IP addresses so it can report names to you. If you want to skip that, you

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 26 October 2018 09:01:50 Curt wrote: > On 2018-10-25, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Now this machine shows for ntpq -p: > > remote refid st t when poll reach delay > > offset jitter > > > >==

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 26 October 2018 08:26:47 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:36:21PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I put the router back on pool.ntp.org, but had to reboot it to take > > effect. > > > > Now this machine shows for ntpq -p: > > remote refid st t when pol

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-26 Thread Curt
On 2018-10-25, Gene Heskett wrote: > Now this machine shows for ntpq -p: > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter >== > +159.203.158.197 45.33.103.94 3 u 59 643 19.551

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:36:21PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I put the router back on pool.ntp.org, but had to reboot it to take effect. > > Now this machine shows for ntpq -p: > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter > ===

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2018 16:50:11 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 04:40:46PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I added the router to the server list for this machine and get this > > for an ntpq -p: remote refid st t when poll reach > > delay offset jitter > > ==

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 04:40:46PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I added the router to the server list for this machine and get this for an > ntpq -p: > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter > ==

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2018 14:08:47 Curt wrote: > On 2018-10-25, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 25 October 2018 09:32:08 Curt wrote: > >> On 2018-10-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> >> 2 machines report: > >> >> pi@picnc:/etc $ ntpq -p > >> >> No association ID's returned > >> > > >> > I've l

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2018-10-25, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2018 09:32:08 Curt wrote: > >> On 2018-10-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >> 2 machines report: >> >> pi@picnc:/etc $ ntpq -p >> >> No association ID's returned >> > >> > I've literally never seen such a message before. I googled it, and >>

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2018 09:32:08 Curt wrote: > On 2018-10-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> 2 machines report: > >> pi@picnc:/etc $ ntpq -p > >> No association ID's returned > > > > I've literally never seen such a message before. I googled it, and > > there are definitely results that look rele

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2018-10-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> 2 machines report: >> pi@picnc:/etc $ ntpq -p >> No association ID's returned > > I've literally never seen such a message before. I googled it, and there > are definitely results that look relevant. After adding "broadcast" to > the search terms, I came u

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 06:23:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > The idea is to reduce the loading of 7 machines all banging one the level > 1 and 2 servers by designating one machine to bang of the debian pool, > and then broadcast it on the local 192.169.xx.xx net so all the others > stay withi

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 07:10:00 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 06:25:46 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 October 2018 11:07:05 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I think that covers what I was going to say, but in an attempt to show > > > off my knowled

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 06:25:46 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 24 October 2018 11:07:05 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I think that covers what I was going to say, but in an attempt to show > > off my knowledge (or lack thereof) ;-) > > > > As I understand it, NTP tries to get an app

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 24 October 2018 11:07:05 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:27:04 AM john doe wrote: > > On 10/24/2018 2:44 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> I has this machine running ntp normally, and set t

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 24 October 2018 10:27:04 john doe wrote: > On 10/24/2018 2:44 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> I has this machine running ntp normally, and set to broadcast on > >> the $local/24 network. > > > > I've never used NTP in "br

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:27:04 AM john doe wrote: > On 10/24/2018 2:44 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> I has this machine running ntp normally, and set to broadcast on the > >> $local/24 network. > > > > I've never used NTP i

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread john doe
On 10/24/2018 2:44 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> I has this machine running ntp normally, and set to broadcast on the >> $local/24 network. > > I've never used NTP in "broadcast" mode. > > If it were me, I would simply use the normal

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I has this machine running ntp normally, and set to broadcast on the > $local/24 network. I've never used NTP in "broadcast" mode. If it were me, I would simply use the normal configuration in which each client system has the NTP se

ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
I has this machine running ntp normally, and set to broadcast on the $local/24 network. I have 6 other machines on this local network, but only 2 are staying with this machine timewise. Does anyone have a clue why the other 4 are not, atm up to 35 seconds diff between them? They all have th