From: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> When there is a standard admin tool, then the packages that do
> have a config script shall doubtless do so ;-)
I expect to be able to announce a tool pretty soon.
Bruce
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Hi,
>>"Lukas" == Lukas Eppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lukas> When the postconfig went wrong, there should be a standard
Lukas> place/method to rerun the config, which should be as clear as
Lukas> installing.
Lukas> I would like to invoke dpkg --setup on a package to invoke the
Lukas> script,
Hi,
>>"john" == john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
john> Couldn't the postconfig script register the configuration utiliy
john> with an admin tool so that the utility would appear in a menu
john> when the admin tool is run?
When there is a standard admin tool, then the packages that do
On 22 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yes, I'm fairly familiar with it, having used it to (among other things)
> configure cnews since the early 1980's. However, I was responding to
> someone who claimed that every Debian package includes a config tool.
>
Having read the original post, I was
Hi,
>>"Daniel" == Daniel Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Daniel> So... Does diety attempt to integrate the configuration tools
Daniel> that do come with some of the Debian packages? And what about
Daniel> the question earlier of having the configuration menus that
Daniel> appear during initial
On 21 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Lukas Eppler writes:
> > This is also better for debian, because every package comes with its own
> > config tool.
>
> This is news to me. What config tool comes with cnews? with suck? with
> pppd?
You're right, I should have said it the other way: ever
Hi,
Daniel Martin pointed out exactly what I wanted to say, but in better
words. Thanks.
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Daniel Martin wrote:
> Having read the original post, I was under the impression that this would
> be a desirable state, not necessarily an expression of the current state.
On 23 Oct 199
Manoj Srivastava writes:
> ...as it stands, most packages arrange to invoke the configuration
> utility/script out of the postconfig script anyway; so the config script
> is run by dpkg with no assistace from Deity.
> ...
> Any enhancements to configuring packages, thus, has to be implemented by
>
I wrote:
> What config tool comes with cnews? with suck? with pppd?
Jason Costomiris writes:
> I've got this great one. It's flexible in its operation, and very
> extensible.
> vi.
Yes, I'm fairly familiar with it, having used it to (among other things)
configure cnews since the early 1980's.
On Tue, Oct 21, 1997 at 07:32:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: This is news to me. What config tool comes with cnews? with suck? with
: pppd?
I've got this great one. It's flexible in its operation, and very
extensible.
vi.
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Ted Harding writes:
> I'd argue, in the *nix fashion, that a bunch of little, specific,
> WELL-DOCUMENTED admin tools is better -- one for net, smail, sendmail,
> etc...
I agree. The general admin tool would just provide centralized access to
these.
Lukas Eppler writes:
> This is also bette
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Will Lowe wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Ted Harding wrote:
> ...
> I'd argue, in the *nix fashion, that a bunch of little, specific,
> WELL-DOCUMENTED admin tools is better -- one for net, smail, sendmail,
> etc... A great example is the "tzconfig" script -- it's small,
Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'd argue, in the *nix fashion, that a bunch of little, specific,
> WELL-DOCUMENTED admin tools is better -- one for net, smail, sendmail,
> etc... A great example is the "tzconfig" script -- it's small, does it's
> work well, and doesn't involve trem
On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Ted Harding wrote:
> >But perhaps it is just better (and more efficient) to write more and good
> >documentation, instead of more and bad code...
> >
> do even something simple correctly. This is why people call for software
> admin tools: you can hope that the tool has the kn
On 20-Oct-97 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
>But perhaps it is just better (and more efficient) to write more and good
>documentation, instead of more and bad code...
>
>Just my 2 cent on this.
>Marcus
This comment is spot-on. Linux is now so complicated (and varied) that, if
you don't know it already
On Mon, Oct 20, 1997 at 08:10:09AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> George Bonser writes:
> > I, for one, would much rather have some sort of a tool so I can get back
> > to enjoying my system and not spend as much time configuring it.
>
> So would I. Can we get a project going to create one?
A
George Bonser writes:
> I, for one, would much rather have some sort of a tool so I can get back
> to enjoying my system and not spend as much time configuring it.
So would I. Can we get a project going to create one?
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Elmwood, WI
At 09:19 PM 10/19/1997 -0700, George Bonser wrote:
>
>On 20-Oct-97 A. M. Varon wrote:
>>
>>Example, to change the hostname, you could do that with lisa. But the
>>truth is, you could easily edit /etc/HOSTNAME and it would give you the
>>same effect. Please note that this apply not only to linux but
On 20-Oct-97 A. M. Varon wrote:
>
>Example, to change the hostname, you could do that with lisa. But the
>truth is, you could easily edit /etc/HOSTNAME and it would give you the
>same effect. Please note that this apply not only to linux but other
>variants of unix as well. So knowing this is a ve
At 10:49 PM 19/10/97 -0400, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:
>
>> For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
>> minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
>> LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping
> > For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
> > minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
> > LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net ---
> > network unreachable
>
> cua1 is bad, don't use it. Not good with fi
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:
> For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
> minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
> LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net ---
> network unreachable
Hi Stuart,
I
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:
> For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
> minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
> LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net ---
> network unreachable
cua1 is bad,
At 04:37 PM 10/19/1997 -0700, George Bonser wrote:
>>
>>There was an effort to outline a configuration (administration) tool on
>>debian-admintool, but the discussion was very hot and then cooled down to
>>silence.
>>
>>However, the goal was much higher than expanding the install menu.
>>
>
>Still,
>
>There was an effort to outline a configuration (administration) tool on
>debian-admintool, but the discussion was very hot and then cooled down to
>silence.
>
>However, the goal was much higher than expanding the install menu.
>
>Marcus
>
>--
>"Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."
>Marcus Brinkmann
>[E
On Sun, Oct 19, 1997 at 10:04:32AM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
>
> On 19-Oct-97 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> >> Now for the tough part. :-)
> >>
> >> I want to be able to use some of the things I've grown used to with
> >> Caldera. In particular, LISA (Linux Installation and System Adminstration)
>
On 19-Oct-97 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>> Now for the tough part. :-)
>>
>> I want to be able to use some of the things I've grown used to with
>> Caldera. In particular, LISA (Linux Installation and System Adminstration)
>> is a life-saver. It allows me to easily change hardware and network
>> set
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:
[ Thinking of a Caldera -> Debian switch ]
> FreeBSD has an excellent package management system and it would be right up
> my alley. The problem is that it's BSD and that's not the direction I want
> to go in. So, I'm looking at the debian distribution. I'
Hello Stuart!
On Sun, Oct 19, 1997 at 08:11:33AM -0400, Stuart Krivis wrote:
> I'm currently thinking about making the move to debian.
Ok, let's talk about debian :)
> I've been using Caldera Network Desktop, and now Caldera Open Linux, for a
> while now. It has shielded me from many of the nit
I'm currently thinking about making the move to debian.
I've been using Caldera Network Desktop, and now Caldera Open Linux, for a
while now. It has shielded me from many of the nitty-gritty tasks that are
necessary to keep a unix system healthy. However, it has also let me get my
work done with a
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