Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-09-02 Thread Anssi Saari
Chuck Zmudzinski writes: > On 8/31/22 11:03 AM, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > It also seems to be a ridiculously long time (ten minutes) for your provider > to configure your interface. I would look for a different provider if they > can't or won't fix it. Or maybe just create an overlay for the haprox

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-08-31 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/31/22 11:03 AM, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > On 31/8/22 10:45 pm, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > I don't use haproxy but I see there is a package for it in the Debian > > repos. I think what you are seeing should be reported as a bug in > > haproxy if you are using the Debian packaged version. The

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-08-31 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 31/8/22 10:45 pm, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I don't use haproxy but I see there is a package for it in the Debian repos. I think what you are seeing should be reported as a bug in haproxy if you are using the Debian packaged version. The haproxy package should start haproxy at the appropriate

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-08-31 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/30/22 8:49 PM, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > On 30/8/22 9:56 am, Ross Boylan wrote: > > > > Now everything just works. > > > > Thanks again to everyone. > > > > There are probably some general lessons, though I'm not sure what they > > are. Clearly the systemd semantics tripped me up; it's kind of a

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-08-31 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 31/8/22 9:16 pm, Anssi Saari wrote: I wonder what bugs Jeremy has found and reported against systemd-resolved though. I remember getting a big headache trying to get interface specific DNS configuration going only to eventually find out it really wasn't working in the version Debian packaged

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-08-31 Thread Anssi Saari
Greg Wooledge writes: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 08:49:29AM +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote: >> One of my problems with systemd is the that name resolution is by default >> done by resolved. > > Not in Debian. > > unicorn:~$ systemctl status systemd-resolved > ● systemd-resolved.service - Network Name

Problems with systemd-resolved (was Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]_

2022-08-31 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 08:49 +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > A result of the use of resolved is the start-up and dependency logic. Another problem I had with systemd-resolved on an Ubuntu box was that it refuses to forward single part names to the DNS server it got by DHCP (names like 'printer1' as o

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 08:49:29AM +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > One of my problems with systemd is the that name resolution is by default > done by resolved. Not in Debian. unicorn:~$ systemctl status systemd-resolved ● systemd-resolved.service - Network Name Resolution Loaded: loaded (/lib

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-08-30 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 30/8/22 9:56 am, Ross Boylan wrote: Now everything just works. Thanks again to everyone. There are probably some general lessons, though I'm not sure what they are. Clearly the systemd semantics tripped me up; it's kind of an odd beast. I understand one of its major goals was to allow st

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-08-29 Thread Ross Boylan
The bind9 script I created in /etc/resolvconf/update.d executed systemctl reload named near the end (if systemd is active, which it is for me). Adding set -x to the script showed that this was where the process of bringing up the interfaces hung up. named is obviously not active when the ne

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-28 Thread Ross Boylan
Thanks Andrew, Felix, Jeremy, Anssi, Curt, Tomas and Greg for your suggestions and comments. I followed several of them by trimming my network/interfaces file to nothing and then slowly adding stuff back. The blank file and the one with only the loopback worked: networking.services reported succe

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 09:07:49PM +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > Further to my longer reply on this list, there are three separate network > configuration & management services that can be running at the same time on > a debian system > > * networking.service > * systemd-networkd.service > * Ne

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-27 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 27/8/22 8:25 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 11:55:44AM -, Curt wrote: On 2022-08-27, Jeremy Ardley wrote: I'd appreciate any suggestions about how to diagnose or cure the problem. I have set VERBOSE=yes in /etc/default/networking First of all ensure NetworkManag

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-27 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 27/8/22 7:55 pm, Curt wrote: On 2022-08-27, Jeremy Ardley wrote: I'd appreciate any suggestions about how to diagnose or cure the problem. I have set VERBOSE=yes in /etc/default/networking First of all ensure NetworkManager is really dead. Your advice and the advice of Andrew M.A. Cater

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-27 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 11:55:44AM -, Curt wrote: > On 2022-08-27, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > >> > >> I'd appreciate any suggestions about how to diagnose or cure the > >> problem. I have set VERBOSE=yes in /etc/default/networking > >> > > First of all ensure NetworkManager is really dead. > > Y

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-27 Thread Curt
On 2022-08-27, Jeremy Ardley wrote: >> >> I'd appreciate any suggestions about how to diagnose or cure the >> problem. I have set VERBOSE=yes in /etc/default/networking >> > First of all ensure NetworkManager is really dead. Your advice and the advice of Andrew M.A. Cater appear to be antithetic

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-27 Thread Brian
On Fri 26 Aug 2022 at 22:37:08 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 03:06:24PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > > In Debian 11/bullseye my system keeps reporting timeouts while trying > > to bring up the first non-loopback interface. According to ip, the > > interface actually is

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-27 Thread Anssi Saari
Ross Boylan writes: > In Debian 11/bullseye my system keeps reporting timeouts while trying > to bring up the first non-loopback interface. I wonder why it is that you have a script for wpa_supplicant if you don't have wireless interfaces? Assuming that's not the problem, I guess you'll need to

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-26 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 27/8/22 6:06 am, Ross Boylan wrote: In Debian 11/bullseye my system keeps reporting timeouts while trying to bring up the first non-loopback interface. According to ip, the interface actually is up, but ifup/down do not know that. My 2nd interface is down, and there is no mention of attempt

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-26 Thread Felix Miata
Ross Boylan composed on 2022-08-26 15:06 (UTC-0700): > I'd appreciate any suggestions about how to diagnose or cure the problem. I switched most of my static installations to systemd-networkd.service last year: # inxi -Snz System: Kernel: 5.10.0-17-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Console: pty pts/

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 03:06:24PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > In Debian 11/bullseye my system keeps reporting timeouts while trying > to bring up the first non-loopback interface. According to ip, the > interface actually is up, but ifup/down do not know that. My 2nd > interface is down, and the

networking.service: start operation timed out

2022-08-26 Thread Ross Boylan
if-up.d Aug 26 11:55:20 barley ifup[1680]: run-parts: executing /etc/network/if-up.d/000resolvconf Aug 26 11:56:18 barley systemd[1]: networking.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. Aug 26 11:56:18 barley ifup[1563]: Got signal Terminated, terminating... Aug 26 11:56:18 barley ifup[15