Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/27/2010 7:10 PM:
> Ah-so! Now I see your point of confusion. At the start of the
> thread, I mentioned two motherboards -- a P5Q-EM and a M3A78-T. With
> the M3A78-T there were line artifacts. But with the P5Q-EM, the
> problem was simply that the display went
* Stan Hoeppner [101228 00:28]:
> consider 10 years of pretty harsh duty a "long life". Who knows how
> many years my BP6 has left in it. Hopefully at least a few, as I still
> love this board, and it works great in its current role.
When one speaks of the lifetime of a capacitor, the usual mea
* Stan Hoeppner [101228 00:28]:
> Paul I get the feeling you've read a lot of forums and magazines, and
> know some people who might know their stuff, but that you personally
> don't really have any experience as a PC/server hardware tech. Is this
> an accurate assessment?
I am not a technician;
* Stan Hoeppner [101228 00:28]:
> The line artifacts you describe, if you are indeed describing them
> accurately, are nearly always caused by static stray magnetic fields.
> Something as innocuous as a small decorative refrigerator magnet stuck
> to the PC case can cause things like this.
>
> I
Le 27/12/2010 19:45, Stan Hoeppner a écrit :
> tv.deb...@googlemail.com put forth on 12/27/2010 3:24 AM:
>
>> Frankly, I am not sure those technos are worth it on mother/gfx boards
>> unless you're a keeper, it will probably be replaced long before it
>> bursts a capacitor, much cheaper boards wit
Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/27/2010 4:40 AM:
> In view of the fact that capacitors are the Achilles Heel of the PC
> motherboard
Cheap case designs and motherboard designs with poor ventilation around
the CPU socket VRM mosfets are, not caps. Far more motherboards fail
due to VRM fets burn
Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/27/2010 4:28 AM:
> None of these are a factor; the nearest potential source of
> interference is a ceiling fluorescent fixture. And I see the same
> pattern with the machine in different rooms.
The line artifacts you describe, if you are indeed describing them
a
tv.deb...@googlemail.com put forth on 12/27/2010 3:24 AM:
> Frankly, I am not sure those technos are worth it on mother/gfx boards
> unless you're a keeper, it will probably be replaced long before it
> bursts a capacitor, much cheaper boards with whatever capacitors can
> last for a couple of yea
Russell L. Harris wrote:
* Hugo Vanwoerkom [101226 22:56]:
No Asus? Too bad. I really like my Asus M4N98TD EVO. First mobo I bought
that worked out-of-the-box.
Hi, Hugo,
Thanks for the recommendation. I suppose that I should look again at Asus,
now that Squeeze has X working on the M3A78-T.
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:12:17 +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I
> purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of
> video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-life solid
> capacitors. (Motherbo
* Russell L. Harris [101227 00:28]:
> Finally, I was in error regarding the P5Q-EM; it employs solid
> capacitors only in the critical power supply circuitry surrounding the
> processor; other capacitors on the board are electrolytic. This is
> typical of the garden-variety motherboards which I s
* tv.deb...@googlemail.com [101227 09:28]:
> Asustek uses what they call "military grade" technology (chokes,
> capacitors and mofsets) on some boards (SABERTOOTH's at least), it's not
> tantalum but claimed to be at least as reliable.
...
> Having lost two expensive Samsung screens to crappy (C
* Stan Hoeppner [101227 08:28]:
> I seriously doubt a DIMM is the problem. I can physically see what you
> describe with words, but it sure sound like an EMI/RFI issue, not the
> hardware, _especially_ after swapping mobo guts twice.
>From amateur radio experience in years past, I know a little
>26/12/2010 21:55, Doug wrote:
>> On 12/26/2010 11:19 AM, Joe wrote:
>> I've had a Giga GA-MA74GM-S2H for a year now. It hasn't died yet, and
>> I can't really say more than that. The most exotic stuff I do is gEDA
>> PCB layout, and I'm not aware of any performance problems. Built-in
>> sound and
Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/26/2010 5:46 PM:
> If the problem indeed is in the video ram, am I correct in assuming
> that I should have no great concern regarding data integrity in the
> other systems of the motherboard?
I seriously doubt a DIMM is the problem. I can physically see what yo
On Sunday 26 December 2010 06:46 pm, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> * Mark Neidorff [101226 22:56]:
> > Well OK. So, this seems to me to be a memory problem. I'm guessing the
> > video ram. Whatever memory the 80X25 mode is mapping into has become
> > flaky. When you start X, you are using differe
* Hugo Vanwoerkom [101226 22:56]:
> No Asus? Too bad. I really like my Asus M4N98TD EVO. First mobo I bought
> that worked out-of-the-box.
Hi, Hugo,
Thanks for the recommendation. I suppose that I should look again at Asus,
now that Squeeze has X working on the M3A78-T.
RLH
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* Doug [101226 22:56]:
> Maybe it's time to buy tantalum capacitors. More expensive,
> slightly smaller, and (I believe) less likely to blow up. Available
> with parallel wires or in surface mount configurations. Military
> equipment has been using tantalum caps for years, so they must be
> reli
* Mark Neidorff [101226 22:56]:
> Well OK. So, this seems to me to be a memory problem. I'm guessing the
> video
> ram. Whatever memory the 80X25 mode is mapping into has become flaky. When
> you start X, you are using different memory, so no problem. Why didn't ASUS
> solve the problem?
On 12/26/2010 11:19 AM, Joe wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:12:17 +
"Russell L. Harris" wrote:
I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I
purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of
video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-l
On Dec 26, 2010 12:11 PM, "Mark Neidorff" wrote:
>
> On Sunday 26 December 2010 09:00 am, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > * Stan Hoeppner [101226 13:35]:
> > > Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/26/2010 5:12 AM:
> > > > I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I
> > > > purchase
Russell L. Harris wrote:
I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I
purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of
video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-life solid
capacitors. (Motherboard life typically is limited by deteriorat
On Sunday 26 December 2010 09:00 am, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> * Stan Hoeppner [101226 13:35]:
> > Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/26/2010 5:12 AM:
> > > I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I
> > > purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:12:17 +
"Russell L. Harris" wrote:
> I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I
> purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of
> video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-life solid
> capacitors. (Mother
* Stan Hoeppner [101226 13:35]:
> Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/26/2010 5:12 AM:
> > I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I
> > purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of
> > video problems.
>
> Two?
Hi, Stan. It really isn't so odd; aft
Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/26/2010 5:12 AM:
> I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I
> purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of
> video problems.
Two?
> With the M3A78-T, the POST screen displayed a cross-hatch pattern of
> horizontal
* shawn wilson [101226 12:28]:
> I don't think that brand or manufacturing process are the issue here
> unless you bought cheap asus boards
Cheap boards generally do not have solid capacitors exclusively.
> > purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386)
> So, assuming a decent
On Dec 26, 2010 6:12 AM, "Russell L. Harris"
wrote:
>
> I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I
> purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of
> video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-life solid
> capacitors. (Motherboard lif
I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I
purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of
video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-life solid
capacitors. (Motherboard life typically is limited by deterioration
of conventional electro
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