Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-05 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
On September 4, 2024 5:18:53 PM CDT, "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: >> I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want >> to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more >> familiar wi

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-05 Thread ael
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more > familiar with school systems and other institutions). You seem to be across the pon

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 06:30:25AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Currently I buy them at a brick-and-mortar store in my city [...] And, oh, by default they come empty or with pre-installed Ubuntu. You can order them with Windows, but this costs extra (as it should be). Cheers -- t s

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 10:18:53PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more > > familiar

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
For inexpensive, low-mileage, office-quality machines (laptop & desktop) try blairtech.com. You'll get a W10 or W11 machine.

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 17:47 Charles Curley ... What did you replace the H&R Block program with? Free TaxUSA, recommended by my lawyer son. it's free, but I paid extra (still less that H&R) for some extra features. It worked great for 2023, I will use it again for 2024. Note I've been audited t

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:47:25 -04 Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 17:04:33 -0500 > > Tom Browder wrote: > > I am torn with whether dual boot is the way to go, given all the > > problems I see with dual boot with Windows now. (I finally dumped > > Windows entirely some months a

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 17:04:33 -0500 Tom Browder wrote: > I am torn with whether dual boot is the way to go, given all the > problems I see with dual boot with Windows now. (I finally dumped > Windows entirely some months ago when I found a decent, modern > replacement for Microsoft Word and for the

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more > familiar with school systems and other institutions). I suggest an HP stream. I got

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more > familiar with school systems and other institutions). > If you're going to set it

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Tom Browder wrote on 05/09/2024 at 00:04:33+0200: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I > want to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu > is more familiar with school systems and other institutions). > > I am torn with whether dual boot is

Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Tom Browder
I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more familiar with school systems and other institutions). I am torn with whether dual boot is the way to go, given all the problems I see with dual boot w

Re: Need advice on known work with linux graphics card.

2022-06-27 Thread piorunz
On 26/06/2022 10:15, Stefan Monnier wrote: I agree, no need to grab absolutely newest-pre-order product. Just buy 2021 or early 2022 released GPU for example, and you will be fine. FWIW, I've had zero problems with the AMD driver on my 2006-vintage Thinkpad T60, so I don't think it's important

Re: Need advice on known work with linux graphics card.

2022-06-25 Thread piorunz
On 24/06/2022 21:47, The Wanderer wrote: I wouldn't go *quite* that far; my understanding is that, especially if AMD has recently released a new Radeon model series, the *very* newest may not have its drivers available yet - or they may at least not be in the repositories. I agree, no need to

Re: Need advice on known work with linux graphics card.

2022-06-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 03:49:11PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > What really changed recently is the move from Nvidia to open-source > > their drivers, making it an alternative to those who don't want to use > > proprietary drivers: > > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-

Re: Need advice on known work with linux graphics card.

2022-06-24 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-06-24 at 16:13, piorunz wrote: > On 23/06/2022 20:40, hput wrote: > >> I'm an ubuntu user but spent several yrs as a straight Debian >> user. >> >> I know there is a level of sophisticated knowledge here and hope >> to find people who know which cards play well with linux >> (especially

Re: Need advice on known work with linux graphics card.

2022-06-24 Thread piorunz
On 23/06/2022 20:40, hput wrote: I'm an ubuntu user but spent several yrs as a straight Debian user. I know there is a level of sophisticated knowledge here and hope to find people who know which cards play well with linux (especially Debian derivatives like ubuntu.) I don't want to have to scr

Re: Need advice on known work with linux graphics card.

2022-06-24 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 19:40:22 + hput wrote: > I've done one of those "build it yourself" online setups and built up > an HP Z840. The host has no built in graphics capability. So > requires a card right off the real. My graphics usage will be some > sort of semi-extensive image editing and A

Re: Need advice on known work with linux graphics card.

2022-06-24 Thread didier . gaumet
Le vendredi 24 juin 2022 à 11:02 +0200, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] > functionnel or no functionnal state [...] functional

Re: Need advice on known work with linux graphics card.

2022-06-24 Thread didier gaumet
Le jeudi 23 juin 2022 à 19:40 +, hput a écrit : > I've done one of those "build it yourself" online setups and built up > an HP Z840.  The host has no built in graphics capability.  So > requires a card right off the real. My graphics usage will be some > sort of semi-extensive image editing

Need advice on known work with linux graphics card.

2022-06-23 Thread hput
I've done one of those "build it yourself" online setups and built up an HP Z840. The host has no built in graphics capability. So requires a card right off the real. My graphics usage will be some sort of semi-extensive image editing and Animation. Its been many years since I had to research a

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 08:39:25PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: If you intend to use guided partitioning on the whole disk, I repeat that LVM is worthless unless you plan to add disks in the future. I'd agree that It's utility is very much diminished by d-i allocating the entire VG with its gu

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Pascal Hambourg (2019-04-16 20:39:25) > Le 15/04/2019 à 16:38, Tom Browder a écrit : > > > > I have decided to use the Deb installer and select LVM during > > the clean installation, and accept the FS default (I assume it will be > > ext4, but if not, I will select it). > > If you intend

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Felix Miata
Jonathan Dowland composed on 2019-04-16 09:17 (UTC+0100): > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Both DFSee and IBM >>BM use the last sector on the first track for data storage, including useful >>cataloging data. Even when not having IBM BM installed, its data sector i

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 15/04/2019 à 16:38, Tom Browder a écrit : I have decided to use the Deb installer and select LVM during the clean installation, and accept the FS default (I assume it will be ext4, but if not, I will select it). If you intend to use guided partitioning on the whole disk, I repeat that LVM

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Both DFSee and IBM BM use the last sector on the first track for data storage, including useful cataloging data. Even when not having IBM BM installed, its data sector is (optionally) used by DFSee, by me, always. So I gather that you

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Felix Miata
Jonathan Dowland composed on 2019-04-15 10:28 (UTC-0400): > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 05:36:00PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >>LVM's extra layer(s) would render my backup/restore system that depends in >>large >>part on cloning useless. > I don't quite understand this, would you care to elaborate?

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:50 AM Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and ... Thanks to all who have given me advice on selecting the file system for a new laptop. After considering all suggestions and my use of the laptop, I have decided to use the

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 09:50:23AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. What in particular do you find attrac

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 05:36:00PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: LVM's extra layer(s) would render my backup/restore system that depends in large part on cloning useless. I don't quite understand this, would you care to elaborate? Thanks! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.n

Re: BTRFS snapshot space consumption (was: New laptop: need advice on choice...)

2019-04-14 Thread Peter Wiersig
Dan Ritter writes: > Peter Wiersig wrote: > > ZFS is now in two incompatible versions: Oracle's, and ZFSonLinux, > which is now effectively the parent for all the other efforts including > FreeBSD's ZFS. The biggest problem is the incompatible license which makes the code untouchable. How Orac

Re: BTRFS snapshot space consumption (was: New laptop: need advice on choice...)

2019-04-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Peter Wiersig wrote: > Matthew Crews writes: > > > > Here is a good talk on the subject by Michael Lucas, one of the premier > > experts on ZFS. Its worth noting that a lot of the concepts apply to > > BTRFS to varying degrees: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9A0dX2WqW8 > > I don't have

Re: BTRFS snapshot space consumption (was: New laptop: need advice on choice...)

2019-04-14 Thread Peter Wiersig
Matthew Crews writes: > > Here is a good talk on the subject by Michael Lucas, one of the premier > experts on ZFS. Its worth noting that a lot of the concepts apply to > BTRFS to varying degrees: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9A0dX2WqW8 I don't have time yet, I think I will watch the whol

Re: BTRFS snapshot space consumption (was: New laptop: need advice on choice...)

2019-04-14 Thread Anders Andersson
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:08 PM Felix Miata wrote: > > Anders Andersson composed on 2019-04-13 17:31 (UTC+0200): > > > Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Because of its snapshotting, BTRFS requires considerably more space than > >> older > >> filesystems, as much as double. > > > A btrfs snapshot takes ap

Re: BTRFS snapshot space consumption (was: New laptop: need advice on choice...)

2019-04-13 Thread Matthew Crews
On 4/13/19 5:40 PM, Peter Wiersig wrote: > Peter Wiersig writes: >> >> I would be pissed if my OS removes snapshots I might or might not need >> in the future. That's a release critical bug in my eyes. Yeah, I know >> Microsoft and Apple do that automatically if your capacity runs out, but >> th

Re: BTRFS snapshot space consumption (was: New laptop: need advice on choice...)

2019-04-13 Thread Peter Wiersig
Peter Wiersig writes: > > I would be pissed if my OS removes snapshots I might or might not need > in the future. That's a release critical bug in my eyes. Yeah, I know > Microsoft and Apple do that automatically if your capacity runs out, but > that's also why I don't recommend them at all. Ok

Re: BTRFS snapshot space consumption (was: New laptop: need advice on choice...)

2019-04-13 Thread Peter Wiersig
Felix Miata writes: > Anders Andersson composed on 2019-04-13 17:31 (UTC+0200): > >> Felix Miata wrote: > >>> Because of its snapshotting, BTRFS requires considerably more space than >>> older >>> filesystems, as much as double. > >> A btrfs snapshot takes approximately zero space. Where did you

Re: BTRFS snapshot space consumption (was: New laptop: need advice on choice...)

2019-04-13 Thread deloptes
Felix Miata wrote: > Anders Andersson composed on 2019-04-13 17:31 (UTC+0200): > >> Felix Miata wrote: > >>> Because of its snapshotting, BTRFS requires considerably more space than >>> older filesystems, as much as double. > >> A btrfs snapshot takes approximately zero space. Where did you get

Re: BTRFS snapshot space consumption (was: New laptop: need advice on choice...)

2019-04-13 Thread Felix Miata
Anders Andersson composed on 2019-04-13 17:31 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Because of its snapshotting, BTRFS requires considerably more space than >> older >> filesystems, as much as double. > A btrfs snapshot takes approximately zero space. Where did you get > this idea from? (not an

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:51 PM Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > Can anyone recommend either one for a

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:36 PM Felix Miata wrote: > > Tom Browder composed on 2019-04-12 09:50 (UTC-0500): > > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > > least one partion during my upcoming new

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-12, Thomas D Dial wrote: > > > > ZFS for /home makes sense, especially for anyone not already somewhat > > familiar with ZFS. > > Well, if ZFS is this big sixteen-wheeler that you might crash into the > concrete embankment if you're not careful, what are the benefits tha

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-12, Thomas D Dial wrote: > > ZFS for /home makes sense, especially for anyone not already somewhat > familiar with ZFS. Well, if ZFS is this big sixteen-wheeler that you might crash into the concrete embankment if you're not careful, what are the benefits that outweigh or override thes

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Default User
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 18:07 Dan Ritter wrote: > Default User wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > And what about Btrfs? > > I don't currently recommend it in any situation where ZFS is an > option. That comes from 2 years of working with btrfs where > doing normal maint

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Default User wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter wrote: > And what about Btrfs? I don't currently recommend it in any situation where ZFS is an option. That comes from 2 years of working with btrfs where doing normal maintenance ended up destroying data more than once. It may be be

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > ... > > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS > > is pretty easy to accomplish. > > Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do > you mean taking it for a ride like a new c

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 12:43 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > > > Can an

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Felix Miata
Tom Browder composed on 2019-04-12 09:50 (UTC-0500): > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. Because of its snapshotting, BTRFS requir

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 12:13:09 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > ... > > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS > > is pretty easy to accomplish. > > Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do > you

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Default User
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > > > Can anyone re

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter wrote: ... > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS > is pretty easy to accomplish. Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do you mean taking it for a ride like a new car where one has to learn new cont

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Browder wrote: > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer, > non-hobb

New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer, non-hobbyiest) user who does backups and

Re: Need advice about an error messange that worries me in Wheezy [solved]

2014-05-23 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140523_0733+0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2014-05-23 00:41 +0200, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > Under Wheezy, every time I print a document I get and error message which > > reads verbatim: > > > > p11-kit: couldn't load module: > > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: > > /u

Re: Need advice about an error messange that worries me in Wheezy

2014-05-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-05-23 00:41 +0200, Paul E Condon wrote: > Under Wheezy, every time I print a document I get and error message which > reads verbatim: > > p11-kit: couldn't load module: > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: canno

Need advice about an error messange that worries me in Wheezy

2014-05-22 Thread Paul E Condon
I have a small home office LAN on which I run Wheezy. I have an old HP5MP (which was renamed HP-Laserjet-5MP several years after I purchased it). I use CUPS to manage the connection between the computer and the printer. The printer is connected to an old Dell that still has the Centronics connect

Re: need advice

2013-04-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/1/2013 9:59 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i have been working on Postfix dovecot etc for couple of months and > suddenly my my management ask the question that they want to sync mobile > device calendar along with i map. i am sure about IMAP i can implement this > with no issues but calend

Re: need advice

2013-04-01 Thread Erwan David
Le 01/04/2013 16:59, Muhammad Yousuf Khan a écrit : i have been working on Postfix dovecot etc for couple of months and suddenly my my management ask the question that they want to sync mobile device calendar along with i map. i am sure about IMAP i can implement this with no issues but calenda

need advice

2013-04-01 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
i have been working on Postfix dovecot etc for couple of months and suddenly my my management ask the question that they want to sync mobile device calendar along with i map. i am sure about IMAP i can implement this with no issues but calendar sync is something that i am looking for. so the crite

Re: need advice on remote installation of Debian

2013-03-26 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
well, thanks for the advice but Dell is quite expensive then Asus so we selected Asus-iKVM module. i am not sure about features in DRAC and Asus but what we need is remote console with security and that is what we can have with iKVM. so we do not go for Dell stuff for a while. On Tue, Mar 26, 201

Re: need advice on remote installation of Debian

2013-03-26 Thread Jude DaShiell
Could debian be installed over skype from a remote location? On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Rob Owens wrote: > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 03:10:40PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > i am living in a remote country and our main branch is in US where > > hosting is very expensive. it is almost costing us

Re: need advice on remote installation of Debian

2013-03-25 Thread Eero Volotinen
2013/3/25 Muhammad Yousuf Khan : > Thanks Rob for the advice but we need redundancy and permanent > solution. we can not always ship pre-installed harddrive to US it will > take days and we can not bear downtime. anyways for us we are right > now planning to buy asus boards with Asus-iKVM module fo

Re: need advice on remote installation of Debian

2013-03-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks Rob for the advice but we need redundancy and permanent solution. we can not always ship pre-installed harddrive to US it will take days and we can not bear downtime. anyways for us we are right now planning to buy asus boards with Asus-iKVM module for remote control the console even with th

Re: need advice on remote installation of Debian

2013-03-25 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 03:10:40PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i am living in a remote country and our main branch is in US where > hosting is very expensive. it is almost costing us $4000K for a kind > of setup we need therefore being a small company we decided to build > our own hosting

Re: need advice on remote installation of Debian

2013-03-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
ok got the solution, KVM over IP is the answer :) Thanks On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i am living in a remote country and our main branch is in US where > hosting is very expensive. it is almost costing us $4000K for a kind > of setup we need therefore being a s

need advice on remote installation of Debian

2013-03-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
i am living in a remote country and our main branch is in US where hosting is very expensive. it is almost costing us $4000K for a kind of setup we need therefore being a small company we decided to build our own hosting platform for our virtualized environment just for demoing our application to o

Re: Need advice on cloning Debian server

2012-05-30 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Shane Johnson wrote: > > I am sure where you have a working system you already know this, but for > those who find this and want to put LVM on top of a raid with Grub2, > make sure you create the raid with the .9 version of the metadata or > Grub2 won't work with

Re: Need advice on cloning Debian server

2012-05-30 Thread Shane Johnson
I haven't actually done it, but you should be able to boot to a live CD initialize the raid and LVM and then add a removable HD to the VG. Create new LV's the same size as your existing ones but make sure you create them on the removable PV then use dd or similar to clone the LV's. Once cloned

Re: Need advice on cloning Debian server

2012-05-30 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:35:40 +0800, Joe Aquilina wrote: > I am relatively new to Linux/Debian and need some advice on "cloning" a > Debian system. Then I'd ask for someone with more experience can help you with this because cloning a full system on different hardware with the setup you describe

Re: Need advice on cloning Debian server

2012-05-29 Thread Joe
On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:35:40 +0800 Joe Aquilina wrote: > > My thought is that I should install Debian squeeze on to it and get > it running with RAID & LVM, with partitions, logical volumes etc. > matching the original file server, and then use rsync to copy all the > data files over the inte

Need advice on cloning Debian server

2012-05-28 Thread Joe Aquilina
Hello all. I am relatively new to Linux/Debian and need some advice on "cloning" a Debian system. At work we have a Debian file server, running Squeeze, which needs to be cloned to new hardware and then the old machine will be retired. It is a file server for a small office, has 4 smallish S

Re: Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
Long Wind mailto:longwind2009%40gmail.com>> wrote: I trade stocks. I put stock prices in file. Often I need compute PE for each day. To cope with stock split, I need to recompute prices as if un-split. Sometimes to compute PE, I want to use average of the last three years' earning To complete

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/04/2010 04:20 PM, Long Wind wrote: I have heard that sql can do all tasks that a procedural programming language can do so That is manifestly *incorrect*, since SQL is a declarative domain-specific language. However... RDBMSs like PostgreSQL and Oracle offer procedural language extens

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Long Wind
I have heard that sql can do all tasks that a procedural programming language can do so I'll try sql -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=cymy0n77a

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/04/2010 02:33 AM, Doug wrote: On 10/04/2010 03:15 AM, Doug wrote: On 10/04/2010 02:59 AM, Long Wind wrote: I'm rather confused. Another user Ron just say the opposite. Suppose stock prices in an array (or table or database) and annual earnings of 10 years in another array (or table or dat

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > PostrgeSQL is *the* way to go... For his purpose sqlite might be better. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vd5ij

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/04/2010 07:08 AM, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: PostrgeSQL is *the* way to go... For his purpose sqlite might be better. I thought about that, but it's datatypes are only notional. $ sqlite3 foo.db SQLite version 3.7.2 Enter ".help" for instructions Enter SQL statements termi

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/04/2010 01:05 AM, Long Wind wrote: (sorry, this is not Linux specific) I trade stocks. I put stock prices in file. Often I need compute PE for each day. To cope with stock split, I need to recompute prices as if un-split. Sometimes to compute PE, I want to use average of the last three yea

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Doug
On 10/04/2010 03:15 AM, Doug wrote: On 10/04/2010 02:59 AM, Long Wind wrote: I'm rather confused. Another user Ron just say the opposite. Suppose stock prices in an array (or table or database) and annual earnings of 10 years in another array (or table or database) to compute PE using average

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Long Wind
Thank Ron Johnson ! I probably won't waste time on learning spreadsheet. I am new to Perl and Python. (A lot of training required!) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://li

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Doug
On 10/04/2010 02:05 AM, Long Wind wrote: (sorry, this is not Linux specific) I trade stocks. I put stock prices in file. Often I need compute PE for each day. To cope with stock split, I need to recompute prices as if un-split. Sometimes to compute PE, I want to use average of the last three yea

need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Long Wind
(sorry, this is not Linux specific) I trade stocks. I put stock prices in file. Often I need compute PE for each day. To cope with stock split, I need to recompute prices as if un-split. Sometimes to compute PE, I want to use average of the last three years' earning To complete these tasks Solut

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Doug
On 10/04/2010 02:59 AM, Long Wind wrote: I'm rather confused. Another user Ron just say the opposite. Suppose stock prices in an array (or table or database) and annual earnings of 10 years in another array (or table or database) to compute PE using average of last 3 years is like writing a pro

Re: need advice on a solution

2010-10-04 Thread Long Wind
I'm rather confused. Another user Ron just say the opposite. Suppose stock prices in an array (or table or database) and annual earnings of 10 years in another array (or table or database) to compute PE using average of last 3 years is like writing a program Can spreadsheet really do the job?

Re: Need advice analyzing S.M.A.R.T data of HDD in "Imminent disk failure".

2009-11-03 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-11-03 21:29:19, Luis Maceira wrote: > In Ubuntu9.10 I have received warnings that a HDD is in > pre-failure.The disk(Iomega Prestige mobile USB external) has 1 > month.In Debian Testing and OpenSolaris(installed on the same HDD I > have no warnings.).Using smartmontools (this disk is not in i

Re: Need advice analyzing S.M.A.R.T data of HDD in "Imminent disk failure".

2009-11-03 Thread Greg Madden
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 17:29:19 Luis Maceira wrote: > In Ubuntu9.10 I have received warnings that a HDD is in pre-failure.The > disk(Iomega Prestige mobile USB external) has 1 month.In Debian Testing and > OpenSolaris(installed on the same HDD I have no warnings.).Using > smartmontools (this d

Need advice analyzing S.M.A.R.T data of HDD in "Imminent disk failure".

2009-11-03 Thread Luis Maceira
In Ubuntu9.10 I have received warnings that a HDD is in pre-failure.The disk(Iomega Prestige mobile USB external) has 1 month.In Debian Testing and OpenSolaris(installed on the same HDD I have no warnings.).Using smartmontools (this disk is not in its database) I get below: m...@mycomputer:~$ su

Re: Need advice from experts in complex multi-boot setups.

2009-10-03 Thread Tom H
I purchased an Iomega mobile HDD 250GB and am planning to install on it several OSs: MacOSX 10.5.8 (Hackintosh), Solaris10, OpenSolaris, Debian, OpenSuse, Fedora, BSDs (FreeBSD and OpenBSD). The computer is a Dell netbook Mini9 which supports all these operative systems ver

Re: Need advice from experts in complex multi-boot setups.

2009-10-02 Thread ein gedanke
Hello, AFAIK at least for Linux you need 1 primary partition of small size (200MB is nearly too big) which contains /boot if you want to use LVM. greetings, vitaminx 2009/10/3 Tom H > >> I purchased an Iomega mobile HDD 250GB and am planning > >> to install on it several OSs: MacOSX 10.5.8

Re: Need advice from experts in complex multi-boot setups.

2009-10-02 Thread Tom H
>> I purchased an Iomega mobile HDD 250GB and am planning >> to install on it several OSs: MacOSX 10.5.8 (Hackintosh), >> Solaris10, OpenSolaris, Debian, OpenSuse, Fedora, BSDs >> (FreeBSD and OpenBSD). The computer is a Dell netbook >> Mini9 which supports all these operative systems very well >>(

Re: Need advice from experts in complex multi-boot setups.

2009-10-02 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Luis Maceira [091002 15:55 -0700] > The case: I purchased an Iomega mobile HDD 250GB and am planning > to install on it several OSs: MacOSX > 10.5.8(Hackintosh),Solaris10,OpenSolaris, > Debian,OpenSuse,Fedora,BSDs(FreeBSD and OpenBSD).The computer is a > Dell netbook Mini9 which supports all the

Need advice from experts in complex multi-boot setups.

2009-10-02 Thread Luis Maceira
The case: I purchased an Iomega mobile HDD 250GB and am planning to install on it several OSs: MacOSX 10.5.8(Hackintosh),Solaris10,OpenSolaris, Debian,OpenSuse,Fedora,BSDs(FreeBSD and OpenBSD).The computer is a Dell netbook Mini9 which supports all these operative systems very well(with the Solar

Re: need advice on scsi disk failure

2009-08-21 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: longwind2...@gmail.com >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: need advice on scsi disk failure >Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:33:10 -0800 > >>On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:34 AM, wrote: >>>> >>> The c

Re: need advice on scsi disk failure

2009-08-21 Thread Long Wind
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:34 AM, wrote: >> > The conventional approach is first to clean the contacts on the > connector and the card (some alcohol on a cotton swab for the > connector and a pencil eraser for the card contacts) and try again. > If that doesn't work go to "plan B" (run a complete d

Re: need advice on scsi disk failure

2009-08-21 Thread Long Wind
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:34 AM, wrote: > The conventional approach is first to clean the contacts on the > connector and the card (some alcohol on a cotton swab for the > connector and a pencil eraser for the card contacts) and try again. > If that doesn't work go to "plan B" (run a complete dis

RE: need advice on scsi disk failure

2009-08-21 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: longwind2...@gmail.com >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: RE: need advice on scsi disk failure >Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:50:21 -0400 > >>I bought a scsi 50G disk a few years ago >>The seller said it had be

Re: need advice on scsi disk failure

2009-08-21 Thread mitch
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:35:25 -0400 Long Wind wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM, mitch > wrote: > > > > I had the same problem, scsi drives failing to start, shutting down > > while running. > > > > Bad power connector. The pins were not making proper contact at all > > times. > > > > Chang

Re: need advice on scsi disk failure

2009-08-21 Thread Long Wind
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM, mitch wrote: > > I had the same problem, scsi drives failing to start, shutting down > while running. > > Bad power connector. The pins were not making proper contact at all > times. > > Changed the connectors and the problem stopped. > Really? I always think scsi

Re: need advice on scsi disk failure

2009-08-21 Thread mitch
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:50:21 -0400 Long Wind wrote: > It's no surprise because the light on scsi disk isn't on > I reconnect the power cable to scsi disk again and again > and then with some luck the disk works normally. > It seems that the power connection becomes loose I had the same problem,

need advice on scsi disk failure

2009-08-21 Thread Long Wind
I bought a scsi 50G disk a few years ago The seller said it had been used on server for a long time The scsi card used to warn that the disk will fail soon during boot Then I change SCSI card firmware, the warning disappear >From 5 days ago, the card often can't find disk during boot It's no surpri

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