Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:01:19PM -0600, cothrige wrote: > Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > There's a difference between: > > > > - what makes sense (for some definition of "makes sense") > > > > - what's "right" (for some definition "right") > > > > - the legal and regulatory is

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-07 Thread Steve Lamb
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: I know about copyrights laws. I know about patent laws. I know about trademarks. I know about property laws. I know of contract laws. I am not aware of any intelectual property laws. I only know Moore's. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-06 Thread steef
Telaman Consultancies wrote: Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: microsoft vs opensource Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:55:51 + thanks david. i myself got the impression that 'the' big corporations are often ke

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 01:05:01PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > But then again changing that requires changing the rules. > > > > In

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 01:05:01PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But then again changing that requires changing the rules. > > In the US, it would only require enforcing the constitution's clause > requiring limited co

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But then again changing that requires changing the rules. In the US, it would only require enforcing the constitution's clause requiring limited copyrights... -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:39:25PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > steef wrote: > >Miles Fidelman wrote: > >>steef wrote: > >>> > >>>is there somebody out there who knows the (juridical) implications > >>>of the kind of "intellectual property" when somebody is going into > >>>the bush and tries to

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-05 Thread Magnus Therning
On 3/5/08, steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> thanks david. i myself got the impression that 'the' big corporations > >> are often keeping busy themselves with legalized theft, backed up by > >> their respective governments. > >> > > > > I thought that's what the idea

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-05 Thread steef
Paul Johnson wrote: thanks david. i myself got the impression that 'the' big corporations are often keeping busy themselves with legalized theft, backed up by their respective governments. I thought that's what the idea of a corporation is by definition... yep. that is exactly how

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
> thanks david. i myself got the impression that 'the' big corporations > are often keeping busy themselves with legalized theft, backed up by > their respective governments. I thought that's what the idea of a corporation is by definition... -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSC

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-05 Thread steef
Telaman Consultancies wrote: Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: microsoft vs opensource Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:16:54 + Miles Fidelman wrote: steef wrote: is there somebody out there who knows the (juridical

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-04 Thread Telaman Consultancies
Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: microsoft vs opensource Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:16:54 + >Miles Fidelman wrote: >> steef wrote: >>> >>> is there somebody out there who knows the (juridical) implic

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-04 Thread steef
Miles Fidelman wrote: steef wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: steef wrote: is there somebody out there who knows the (juridical) implications of the kind of "intellectual property" when somebody is going into the bush and tries to patent - (and gets this patent indeed) - a very valuable indigen

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
steef wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: steef wrote: is there somebody out there who knows the (juridical) implications of the kind of "intellectual property" when somebody is going into the bush and tries to patent - (and gets this patent indeed) - a very valuable indigenous procedée before a c

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-04 Thread steef
Miles Fidelman wrote: steef wrote: is there somebody out there who knows the (juridical) implications of the kind of "intellectual property" when somebody is going into the bush and tries to patent - (and gets this patent indeed) - a very valuable indigenous procedée before a court in the We

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
steef wrote: is there somebody out there who knows the (juridical) implications of the kind of "intellectual property" when somebody is going into the bush and tries to patent - (and gets this patent indeed) - a very valuable indigenous procedée before a court in the Western world without th

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-04 Thread steef
cothrige wrote: Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There's a difference between: - what makes sense (for some definition of "makes sense") - what's "right" (for some definition "right") - the legal and regulatory issues involved (there's a lot of dispute about whether software sh

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread cothrige
Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There's a difference between: > > - what makes sense (for some definition of "makes sense") > > - what's "right" (for some definition "right") > > - the legal and regulatory issues involved (there's a lot of dispute > about whether software should be p

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
cothrige wrote: "Telaman Consultancies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... The ever persistent issue of software patents for example, when dealing with programming - which is essentially a language - and shouldn't, as a means of transmission of knowledge, even have copyright attached to it.

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread cothrige
"Telaman Consultancies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... > The ever persistent issue of software patents for example, when > dealing with programming - which is essentially a language - and > shouldn't, as a means of transmission of knowledge, even have > copyright attached to it. Doesn't this pro

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 07:20:04AM +0900, Telaman Consultancies wrote: > > > Original Message > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: microsoft vs opensource > Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:52:51 -0600 > > >Miles Fidel

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread Telaman Consultancies
Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: microsoft vs opensource Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:52:51 -0600 >Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >>> I know about copyrights laws. I know a

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread cothrige
Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >> I know about copyrights laws. I know about patent laws. I know about >> trademarks. I know about property laws. I know of contract laws. I >> am not aware of any intelectual property laws. >> > "intellectual property law" = pa

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread Raquel
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:07:17 + Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:56:41AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > >On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 11:07:55PM +, steef wrote: > > > > > >>maybe of some interest in a general sense > > >> > > >>ip_

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: I know about copyrights laws. I know about patent laws. I know about trademarks. I know about property laws. I know of contract laws. I am not aware of any intelectual property laws. "intellectual property law" = patent law + copyright law + trademark law + some related

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:56:41AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > >On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 11:07:55PM +, steef wrote: > > > >>maybe of some interest in a general sense > >> > >>ip_watch > >> > > > > > >> Free, Open Software Supporters Advocate Against Microsof

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 11:07:55PM +, steef wrote: maybe of some interest in a general sense ip_watch Free, Open Software Supporters Advocate Against Microsoft Document Standard http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=941 And this is n

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread steef
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 11:07:55PM +, steef wrote: maybe of some interest in a general sense ip_watch Free, Open Software Supporters Advocate Against Microsoft Document Standard http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=941 And this is n

Re: microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 11:07:55PM +, steef wrote: > > maybe of some interest in a general sense > > ip_watch > Free, Open Software Supporters Advocate Against Microsoft Document > Standard > > http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=941 And this is news for you? Where have yo

microsoft vs opensource

2008-03-02 Thread steef
maybe of some interest in a general sense ip_watch Free, Open Software Supporters Advocate Against Microsoft Document Standard http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=941 -- steef van duin publicist, research-journalist -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a