Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Cameron Hutchison [2010.08.17.0207 +0200]: > My /dev/sd[bc]1 partitions are of type 0xFD. /dev/md0 has a version > 00.90 superblock. > > If I upgrade this kernel, or upgrade to the new stable when it's > released, is this box going to stop booting? Not for now, as long as the md driv

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Cameron Hutchison
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." writes: >In <20100815190053.ga4...@gandalf.home.lxtec.de>, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: >>How do I set up mdadm to create the root array witout an initramfs? >You can't. When did this change? I have a box (my NAS) that is running Debian stable (lenny) with a custom 2.6.30

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4c69742e.3080...@hardwarefreak.com>, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >martin f krafft put forth on 8/16/2010 10:26 AM: >>> I prefer LSI and Intel raid cards. I should have said merely LSI >>> as the Intel cards are licensed LSI cards. Hardware raid isn't as >>> flexible as softraid as it works at the en

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Sam Leon put forth on 8/16/2010 9:49 AM: > I haven't messed with windows since xp. But I do remember on xp you > could not have any software raid on the same partition that you booted > from. Which made it pointless... Did they change the functionality in > vista or 7 or something? I was referrin

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stan Hoeppner [2010.08.16.1923 +0200]: > > … until your controller dies and you find out that the manufacturer > > does not support the firmware anymore and your data are lost. > > Ever heard of spares? If not you've not been in this game long. I've had cases where the spares simply

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
martin f krafft put forth on 8/16/2010 10:26 AM: >> I prefer LSI and Intel raid cards. I should have said merely LSI >> as the Intel cards are licensed LSI cards. Hardware raid isn't as >> flexible as softraid as it works at the entire disk level, but boy >> is it so much easier to work with, >

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stan Hoeppner [2010.08.16.1514 +0200]: > This has always been one of my hangups regarding using linux mdraid (or any > soft OS raid) vs hardware raid--proper and seamless handling of a raid > protected boot device, including issues beyond the topic of this thread. I > hate admitting i

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Sam Leon
On 08/16/2010 08:14 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 8/15/2010 5:34 PM: In<20100815190053.ga4...@gandalf.home.lxtec.de>, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: How do I set up mdadm to create the root array witout an initramfs? You can't. mdadm is a user-space binary that can'

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 8/15/2010 5:34 PM: > In <20100815190053.ga4...@gandalf.home.lxtec.de>, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: >> How do I set up mdadm to create the root array witout an initramfs? > > You can't. mdadm is a user-space binary that can't be compiled into the > kernel images.

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* martin f krafft [100816 07:33 +0200]: > also sprach Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [2010.08.16.0034 > +0200]: > > Last I checked, it is possible to have the kernel itself start the > > root array, via a (series of) kernel command-line arguments. > > However, this doesn't use mdadm or any of its configu

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [2010.08.16.0034 +0200]: > Last I checked, it is possible to have the kernel itself start the > root array, via a (series of) kernel command-line arguments. > However, this doesn't use mdadm or any of its configuration files. That only works for the deprecated

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20100815190053.ga4...@gandalf.home.lxtec.de>, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: >How do I set up mdadm to create the root array witout an initramfs? You can't. mdadm is a user-space binary that can't be compiled into the kernel images. Therefore, to run mdadm you need an initramfs, or the file sys

mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-15 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Hi all, I've set up a new machine with sw raid1. / and /boot are on seperated arrays. raid1 support is compiled direct into 2.6.35.1. The machine is only bootable with an initramfs created by the hints in /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz. How do I set up mdadm to create the root arr