On Tue, 3 May 2016 15:32:07 +0300
Piyavkin wrote:
> Explaining that since using «bad words»
> is being a nazi
Just to clarify this again, I never claimed that you or anyone else here
is a nazi.
> For your information:
>
> /American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition/
>
On 03.05.2016 16:34, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 14:22:26 Piyavkin wrote:
On 03.05.2016 02:21, Lisi Reisz wrote:
…
So it is all a bit circular!! But I find the concepts of "International
Workers Day" and "the proletariat" intrinsically unpleasant. I am in
sympathy with Eric Blair
Piyavkin writes:
> What's wrong with you, guys?
Divisive associations. "Solidarity", for example, is almost always
directed against some group of perceived enemies.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 14:22:26 Piyavkin wrote:
> On 03.05.2016 02:21, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > …
> > So it is all a bit circular!! But I find the concepts of "International
> > Workers Day" and "the proletariat" intrinsically unpleasant. I am in
> > sympathy with Eric Blair (aka George Orwell). It
On 05/03/2016 08:34 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Politics does not belong here
+1
Enough already.
--
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
On 03.05.2016 16:05, John Hasler wrote:
Piyavkin writes:
You're right. I've already sent to Pablo Escobar and to local criminal
lords my letters with apologies. Explaining that since using «bad
words» is being a nazi, we shouldn't call them criminals and parasites
anymore.
Then call them crimin
On 03.05.2016 02:21, Lisi Reisz wrote:
…
So it is all a bit circular!! But I find the concepts of "International
Workers Day" and "the proletariat" intrinsically unpleasant. I am in
sympathy with Eric Blair (aka George Orwell). It is as wrong to murder
someone for being an aristo as it is to
Piyavkin writes:
> You're right. I've already sent to Pablo Escobar and to local criminal
> lords my letters with apologies. Explaining that since using «bad
> words» is being a nazi, we shouldn't call them criminals and parasites
> anymore.
Then call them criminals. The word "parasite* usually r
On 03.05.2016 01:50, Michael Lange wrote:
On Mon, 02 May 2016 14:52:26 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
Michael Lange writes:
I would by the way strongly request to dismiss the use of the word
"parasite" when speaking about human beings, since - speaking frankly
- this sounds a lot like nazi-speech
ote:
> > On Sunday 01 May 2016 18:13:38 Dan Hitt wrote:
> >> (And wasn't May day an American idea originally, which
> >> our ruling class wanted to tone down?)
> >
> > I am speechless!!
> >
> > "The earliest May Day celebrations appeared in
On Mon, 02 May 2016 14:52:26 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> Michael Lange writes:
> > I would by the way strongly request to dismiss the use of the word
> > "parasite" when speaking about human beings, since - speaking frankly
> > - this sounds a lot like nazi-speech
>
> So does any classification o
Piyavkin writes:
> Why you say such about those noble and worthy gentlemen?
Well, of course, the epithet applies only to politicians in the other
parties. The ones in mine are all noble and worthy gentlemen selflessly
dedicated to the Cause.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
Michael Lange writes:
> I would by the way strongly request to dismiss the use of the word
> "parasite" when speaking about human beings, since - speaking frankly
> - this sounds a lot like nazi-speech
So does any classification of people into "them" and "us".
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Hi,
Piyavkin wrote:
> Have you said «Karl Marx»?!.. Oh, no!.. Lisi will get you! )
I quote him as sincere contributor to political and economical theory.
Everybody, who pays Value Added Tax, pays for a thing invented by Marx:
The Added Value which - according to his theory - goes into the pockets
On Mon, 2 May 2016 20:32:17 +0300
Piyavkin wrote:
> And by mentioned «professional parasites and criminals» I meant in the
> first place exactly those people who live by criminal, fraud,
> deception, and literally at other's expense. Which is by definition a
> description of lumpen-proletariat (
On 02.05.2016 20:48, John Hasler wrote:
Piyavkin writes:
But, I wonder, /whom/ exactly did you bear in mind when you triggered
«politics detection» alert at words «professional parasites»? )
...Ouch!
Politicians, most likely. All of them. It's not true, of course. Many
of them are amateur pa
On 02.05.2016 19:05, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Haines Brown wrote:
Incidentally, I'm not suggesting that FOSS is crypto-socialist.
Piyavkin wrote:
No, but it is new growing relations of production.
It's in no way crypto, but quite near to the vision of Karl Marx in the
19th century. He expec
Piyavkin writes:
> But, I wonder, /whom/ exactly did you bear in mind when you triggered
> «politics detection» alert at words «professional parasites»? )
> ...Ouch!
Politicians, most likely. All of them. It's not true, of course. Many
of them are amateur parasites.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@new
On 02.05.2016 17:16, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 02 May 2016 15:07:29 Piyavkin wrote:
professional
parasites
OUCH! Can we keep politics out of this - be it far left or far right? This
list is not the place.
Lisi
Hi, Lisi!
Actually, I'm not intended to elaborate the o-topic any further be
Hi,
Haines Brown wrote:
> > Incidentally, I'm not suggesting that FOSS is crypto-socialist.
Piyavkin wrote:
> No, but it is new growing relations of production.
It's in no way crypto, but quite near to the vision of Karl Marx in the
19th century. He expected it to happen for classic economy afte
On 01.05.2016 21:27, Haines Brown wrote:
Incidentally, I'm not suggesting that FOSS is crypto-socialist. Haines
No, but it is new growing relations of production.
Best regards,
Dmitry Piyavkin
On Monday 02 May 2016 15:07:29 Piyavkin wrote:
> professional
> parasites
OUCH! Can we keep politics out of this - be it far left or far right? This
list is not the place.
Lisi
?
;-)
Happy May Day from the workers paradise of a muddy farm somewhere in
northern Kansas.
- Nate
And special Best Wishes come to — Nate from Kansas!
[a soft but energetic banjo music slowly fade in in the background]
Thanks, Nate! )
Best regards,
Dmitry Piyavkin
. I've just sent my
best wishes on the occasion to those who can hear me, can accept it and
bounce back. End of story.
And, yeah, I have absolutely nothing at all against any goddess of
flowers, especially if some come my way in a nice sunny May day.
Best regards,
Dmitry Piyavkin
On Sun, 01 May 2016 16:29:40 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> Lisi writes:
> > But New Zealand and the Isle of Man (sorry, I have been spelling it
> > wrongly) both antedate Finland in granting full suffrage, and New
> > Zealand's was unrestricted - but of course it was not independent. So
> > we eith
Lisi writes:
> But New Zealand and the Isle of Man (sorry, I have been spelling it
> wrongly) both antedate Finland in granting full suffrage, and New
> Zealand's was unrestricted - but of course it was not independent. So
> we either have to allow both Finland and New Zealand, when New Zealand
>
Lisi Resiz wrote:
> oldest continuous democratic government!
John Hasler wrote:
> Right. It's actually Finland, of course.
> Within europe, i bet on San Marino...
If you ignore the PFS period.
> ...and Iceland.
If you ignore being owned by Denmark (and the fact that it is not within
Europ
On Sunday 01 May 2016 19:14:59 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > oldest continuous democratic government!
>
> John Hasler wrote:
> > Right. It's actually Finland, of course.
>
> Within europe, i bet on San Marino and Iceland.
San Marino wins by a long chalk! I forgot ab
day!
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dmitry Piyavkin
> >
>
> Why workers only? There are other humans, too.
Obviously Dmitry refers to working-class internationalism, not the
ancient Roman May Day celebration in honor of the goddess of flowers.
Although a gross simpl
Hi,
Lisi Resiz wrote:
> > oldest continuous democratic government!
John Hasler wrote:
> Right. It's actually Finland, of course.
Within europe, i bet on San Marino and Iceland.
(Finland was a colony of Sweden and/or Russia during most of
the last few hundred years.)
Have a nice day :)
Lisi writes:
> USA, you are a very YOUNG nation. You haven't got the oldest anything
> (except Californian Redwoods, which antedate the USA.) Yes, there are
> younger nations and peoples - but there are an awful lot of older
> ones.
For certain definitions of "nation".
> I am still reeling from
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 01 May 2016 18:13:38 Dan Hitt wrote:
>> (And wasn't May day an American idea originally, which
>> our ruling class wanted to tone down?)
>
> I am speechless!!
>
> "The earliest May Day celebra
On Sunday 01 May 2016 18:13:38 Dan Hitt wrote:
> (And wasn't May day an American idea originally, which
> our ruling class wanted to tone down?)
I am speechless!!
"The earliest May Day celebrations appeared in pre-Christian times, with the
Floralia, festival of Flora, the
rking class, and having
capital should not put you out. (Most people have cars after all, or other
forms of working capital.)
Anyhow, hoping everybody has a good May day and a productive year writing
good free code. (And wasn't May day an American idea originally, which
our ruling class wanted to tone down?)
dan
Nate writes:
> I struggled to pay attention in social studies class way back in grade
> school 40+ years ago. Does that count?
Sure. As long as you collect no rents and own no capital you can be a
member of the proletariat.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
* On 2016 01 May 08:23 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Hans Vogelsberger writes:
> > Why workers only? There are other humans, too.
>
> Class struggle.
I struggled to pay attention in social studies class way back in grade
school 40+ years ago. Does that count?
;-)
Happy May Day f
Hans Vogelsberger writes:
> Why workers only? There are other humans, too.
Class struggle.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
On 1 May 2016 at 13:26, Hans Vogelsberger wrote:
> Am Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:49:06 +0300
> schrieb Piyavkin :
>
> > Congratulations with International Worker's Day to all the working
> > (in FOSS industry and at all) people! )
> > Have a nice day!
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dmitry Piyavkin
> >
>
Am Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:49:06 +0300
schrieb Piyavkin :
> Congratulations with International Worker's Day to all the working
> (in FOSS industry and at all) people! )
> Have a nice day!
>
>
> Best regards,
> Dmitry Piyavkin
>
Why workers only? There are other humans, too.
Congratulations with International Worker's Day to all the working (in
FOSS industry and at all) people! )
Have a nice day!
Best regards,
Dmitry Piyavkin
> First of all, I'm italian, so if you think someone can give me help from
> Italy, I think it would be better both for you and me...
Ciao Cristian!
First of all congratulations for deciding to install Debian on your
pc: I'm sure you'll be satisfied by this choice. And this official
Debian mailin
Cristian Zapelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've surfed the Debian site and I'm very interested in getting this
> O.S. At the moment I have Xp installed on my PC, and to tell the
> truth, I don't wanna get rid of itanyway I want the Gnu/linux O.S.
You can install Debian alongside Windows.
Hi,
I've surfed the Debian site and I'm very interested in getting this O.S.
At the moment I have Xp installed on my PC, and to tell the truth, I
don't wanna get rid of itanyway I want the Gnu/linux O.S.
First of all, I'm italian, so if you think someone can give me help from
Italy, I thin
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