Re: man v. info (was Re: mandb gets stuck!)

2001-09-03 Thread Rino Mardo
wow. ever thought of getting into law practice? :-) i think i touched on a very touchy issue here. i'll just go find a simple project for my python. thanks for all the replies guys! _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at htt

Re: man v. info (was Re: mandb gets stuck!)

2001-09-03 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 03:13:10PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 01:44:45PM +0200, Cliff Sarginson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 11:49:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 10:31:47PM +0800, Rino Mardo wrote: I agree wit

Re: man v. info (was Re: mandb gets stuck!)

2001-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
Brian Nelson wrote: > I also agree. I think what bothers me most about info pages is that > they often read like books. Not suprising, they often *are* books. I have a book on my shelf that has about a 100% correspondence to the gdb info page. Though the gdb info page lacks RPM's autograph.. --

Re: man v. info (was Re: mandb gets stuck!)

2001-09-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 11:54:09PM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote: > I also agree. I think what bothers me most about info pages is that > they often read like books. They're usually arranged in a format > resembling chapters covering each topic in thorough detail. This is > fine if I want to read a

Re: man v. info (was Re: mandb gets stuck!)

2001-09-02 Thread Brian Nelson
"Karsten M. Self" writes: > The problem is that this is often specifically what is *not* sought by > those who are looking for manpages. What's wanted is a short, concise, > but illustrative reference providing: > > - A functional description of the command. > > - A synopsis of all options

Re: man v. info (was Re: mandb gets stuck!)

2001-09-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 03:13:10PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > Personally, I'd strongly recommend that the GNU project revisit the > issue of info pages altogether. They're not popular, they don't > adequately replace man pages, and there is a far more successful and > ubiquitous hypertext mod

man v. info (was Re: mandb gets stuck!)

2001-09-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 01:44:45PM +0200, Cliff Sarginson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 11:49:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 10:31:47PM +0800, Rino Mardo wrote: > > > getting a little OT here but can all the man databases be converted to > > > in

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-09-02 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 11:49:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 10:31:47PM +0800, Rino Mardo wrote: > > getting a little OT here but can all the man databases be converted to > > info files? what can a "python" newbie do or have to follow in order > > to do this? > > You m

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-09-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 10:31:47PM +0800, Rino Mardo wrote: > getting a little OT here but can all the man databases be converted to > info files? what can a "python" newbie do or have to follow in order > to do this? You might be able to do it, but then I'd have to kill you ;) Besides, the info

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-09-01 Thread Rino Mardo
TECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:14 PM Subject: Re: mandb gets stuck! > On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:36:08PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 04:25:01AM -0500, Colin Watson > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > I'm afraid none

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:36:08PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 04:25:01AM -0500, Colin Watson > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I'm afraid none of that will work - it turns out it's the database > > (/var/cache/man/X11R6/index.bt) that's broken, not the man pages. > > Ho

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-09-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 04:25:01AM -0500, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 12:37:05AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > My suggestion: > > > >- rename /usr/X11R6/man/man3 to /usr/X11/man/man3-bak > > > >- create a directory /usr/X11R6/man/man3 > > > >

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 12:37:05AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > My suggestion: > >- rename /usr/X11R6/man/man3 to /usr/X11/man/man3-bak > >- create a directory /usr/X11R6/man/man3 > >- create symlinks for half the files in man3-bak: > >$ cd /usr/X11R6/man/man3 >$

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-08-31 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 07:13:22PM -0400, Eugene Tyurin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Ok, man-db is version 2.3.19-5 > > mandb -d -c >>/tmp/mandb.log 2>>/tmp/mandb.log seems to get stuck > at this point: > > free_hashtab: 2090 entries, 1302 (62%) unique > done. > catpath: /var/cache/man, manpa

Bug#110738: mandb gets stuck!

2001-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
Package: man-db Version: 2.3.19-5 Severity: important On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 07:13:22PM -0400, Eugene Tyurin wrote on debian-user: > Ok, man-db is version 2.3.19-5 > > mandb -d -c >>/tmp/mandb.log 2>>/tmp/mandb.log seems to get stuck > at this point: > > free_hashtab: 2090 entries, 1302 (62%) u

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-08-30 Thread Eugene Tyurin
Ok, man-db is version 2.3.19-5 mandb -d -c >>/tmp/mandb.log 2>>/tmp/mandb.log seems to get stuck at this point: free_hashtab: 2090 entries, 1302 (62%) unique done. catpath: /var/cache/man, manpath: /usr/share/man Testing for existence: /usr/share/man/man1/strace.1 Testing for existence: /usr/sha

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-08-30 Thread Shaul Karl
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 02:04:13AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:31:40PM -0400, Eugene Tyurin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > wrote: > > > What's /usr/local/man look like? > > My /usr/local/man is empty - does not even have manN subdirs. > > > Have you tried running s

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-08-30 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 08:14:07AM -0400, Eugene Tyurin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 02:04:13AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:31:40PM -0400, Eugene Tyurin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > wrote: > > > What's /usr/local/man look like? > > My /usr/lo

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-08-30 Thread Eugene Tyurin
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 02:04:13AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:31:40PM -0400, Eugene Tyurin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > What's /usr/local/man look like? My /usr/local/man is empty - does not even have manN subdirs. > Have you tried running strace on mandb? R

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-08-30 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:31:40PM -0400, Eugene Tyurin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hello, > > A few weeks ago, perhaps, I upgraded something on my woody box - and > now I can't satisfy the mandb gods. Mandb runs through cron.weekly > until I kill it - for a few days. I tried to run it manu

Re: mandb gets stuck!

2001-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:31:40PM -0400, Eugene Tyurin wrote: > A few weeks ago, perhaps, I upgraded something on my woody box - and > now I can't satisfy the mandb gods. Mandb runs through cron.weekly > until I kill it - for a few days. I tried to run it manually to > create a db from scratch,

mandb gets stuck!

2001-08-29 Thread Eugene Tyurin
Hello, A few weeks ago, perhaps, I upgraded something on my woody box - and now I can't satisfy the mandb gods. Mandb runs through cron.weekly until I kill it - for a few days. I tried to run it manually to create a db from scratch, but the same thing - it gets stuck. Here's the tail of the lo