Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-20 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
David Wright wrote: Several posters have pointed out that I can get DHCP to assign IPs based on MAC, which goes a long way toward solving my problem. I guess if I share hosts using ldap, I can still give each machine a unique name, too. Now the only problem I can think of with sharing /usr and

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread dman
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:15:11PM -0800, David Wright wrote: | On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kelley, Tim (CBS-New Orleans) wrote: | | > I would say if you're gonna go ahead and share /usr you may as well go | > diskless. You can specify a directory on the server to serve as the root for the client(s). Y

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread nate
Petro said: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:49:05PM -0800, nate wrote: >> hanasaki said: >> > Is there some way to have: >> > >> > - Machine is assigned a DHCP IP >> > - Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP >> > into Bind with the hostname? >> >> i don't know how you'd use

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Petro
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:49:05PM -0800, nate wrote: > hanasaki said: > > Is there some way to have: > > > > - Machine is assigned a DHCP IP > > - Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP > > into Bind with the hostname? > > i don't know how you'd use the MAC to map to a h

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread nate
hanasaki said: > Is there some way to have: > > - Machine is assigned a DHCP IP > - Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP > into Bind with the hostname? i don't know how you'd use the MAC to map to a hostname. you can use it to map to an ip ..but how would you determine

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread nate
David Wright said: > > Several posters have pointed out that I can get DHCP to assign IPs > based on MAC, which goes a long way toward solving my problem. I > guess if I share hosts using ldap, I can still give each machine a > unique name, too. > > Now the only problem I can think of with sharing

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Petro
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:38:56PM -0800, Robert Waldner wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:35:21 CST, hanasaki writes: > >Is there some way to have: > > > >- Machine is assigned a DHCP IP > >- Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP into > >Bind with the hostname? > uargh,

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Richard Hector
David Wright wrote: > > Now the only problem I can think of with sharing /usr and /etc is that my > file server's /etc will contain stuff like /etc/exports, which will end up > telling every machine to be a file server. H. The server doesn't have to export its _own_ /etc - you could have a se

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Rich Puhek
How about setting up a custom /etc/ for each client... doing something like: On NFS server: == /etc/ client1/ client2/ client3/ ... On clients: === mount :/etc/client /etc/ (where is the client number...) /etc isn't huge, so having multiple copies isn't a hug

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Robert Waldner
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:35:21 CST, hanasaki writes: >Is there some way to have: > >- Machine is assigned a DHCP IP >- Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP into >Bind with the hostname? uargh, you're thinking of something like MSs "Active DNS" (or whatever it's called

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread hanasaki
Is there some way to have: - Machine is assigned a DHCP IP - Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP into Bind with the hostname? nate wrote: David Wright said: I have also thought of trying to make the workstations diskless and using DHCP -- but then how can I giv

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake Petro: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:17:29PM -0800, David Wright wrote: > > > > I manage a cluster used for computational neuroscience at a University. > > The number of machines is starting to get to a point where it is difficult > > to maintain software synchronization across machines.

RE: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Kelley, Tim \(CBS-New Orleans\)
> > Mounting just /usr over nfs is going to have non trivial > reprocussions > > with dpkg I would think. That is usually what /opt is for and > probably > > why debian does not use it. > > I don't understand this, but I certainly want to! Why would dpkg care > or > even know if the directory it

RE: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread David Wright
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kelley, Tim (CBS-New Orleans) wrote: > I would say if you're gonna go ahead and share /usr you may as well go > diskless. I think you are probably right about this. > OR: run a centrally managed group of apps over X remotely (this could > get messy tho) this way they all run

RE: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Kelley, Tim \(CBS-New Orleans\)
e it. > -Original Message- > From: David Wright [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:49 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: managing multiple machines > > > Several posters have pointed out that I can get DHCP to assign I

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Petro
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:17:29PM -0800, David Wright wrote: > > I manage a cluster used for computational neuroscience at a University. > The number of machines is starting to get to a point where it is difficult > to maintain software synchronization across machines. Any tips? www.systemim

managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread David Wright
Several posters have pointed out that I can get DHCP to assign IPs based on MAC, which goes a long way toward solving my problem. I guess if I share hosts using ldap, I can still give each machine a unique name, too. Now the only problem I can think of with sharing /usr and /etc is that my file s

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:31:27PM -0800, nate wrote: > im not sure if fixed-address will take an IP or not, the > examples i saw all took hostnames so you may have to have > DNS setup .. it works though. assigns the same ip every time. > i take the machine to the office and i have my dhcp server >

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:17:29PM -0800, David Wright wrote: > (Whatever happened to the very intelligent policy of configuring > programs in /bin in /etc, configuring programs in /usr/bin in /usr/etc, > and configuring programs in /usr/local/bin in /usr/local/etc?!) Wouldn't really help any, giv

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread nate
David Wright said: > > > I have also thought of trying to make the workstations diskless and > using DHCP -- but then how can I give each machine a fixed name and > IP address? i can't give a good answer for the rest but this one is easy. on my home network i tell dhcp to assign static ips via MAC

managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread David Wright
I manage a cluster used for computational neuroscience at a University. The number of machines is starting to get to a point where it is difficult to maintain software synchronization across machines. Any tips? I already use LDAP to distribute user and group information and NFS to share /home dir