Re: where is mail.log

On Monday, December 2, 2024 4:04:12 PM CET, Andy Smith wrote: Unfortunately rather common practice though even before systemd-journald of course: Exim, Apache HTTPD Server, HAProxy, … (some of these CAN be configured to log to syslog, it's just not their default state) iirc, and the referenced

Re: where is mail.log

On Tue Dec 3, 2024 at 3:11 AM GMT, Greg Wooledge wrote: What I don't know, and don't think anyone on this list knows, is why *Debian* chose to toss the human-readable separate text log files away in favor of the systemd monolithic binary journal. The bug that documents rsyslog moving from prior

Re: where is mail.log

On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 10:00:27 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > systemd for Administrators, Part XIII > Posted on Fr 18 Mai 2012 > Log and Service Status > > > The original reason we started to work on the journal was one specific > > featu

Re: where is mail.log

On 30/11/2024 03:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: Now, you might ask why the systemd journal is being preferred and kept over human-readable log files. I don't think anyone on debian-user knows the answer to this. systemd for Administrators, P

Re: where is mail.log

On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 5:32 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:51:40PM +0100, Scott Andrews wrote: > > > The version of systemd in trixie (and also in sid) is 257 according > > > to packages.debian.org. > > > > > > I don't know whether that's the version trixie is going to use up

Re: where is mail.log

Hello, On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 01:08:52PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > We do not want a different logging system for each daemon. Unfortunately rather common practice though even before systemd-journald of course: Exim, Apache HTTPD Server, HAProxy, … (some of these CAN be configured to log to

Re: where is mail.log

Michael (12024-12-02): > postfix has its own logging mechanism: Making postfix part of the problem: different format for timestamps, separate rotation and retention configuration, etc. We do not want a different editor and build system for each programming platform. We do not want a different p

Re: where is mail.log

poc...@homemail.com writes: > You did not comprehend what I posted. I am on the systemd mail list. > They have dropped all sysV support. Does it really even matter if there's SysV support in systemd? You can still put ExecStart=your-sysv-init-script start in your systemd service file and I don

Re: where is mail.log

since noone mentioned it: postfix has its own logging mechanism: https://www.postfix.org/MAILLOG_README.html greetings...

Re: where is mail.log and the changing Linux ecosystem

On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:09:54PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 11:02:07 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > Is there a "list of coming major design changing in Linux" somewhere on the > > Internet? Could make my life easier if there was. > > I would just like to point out t

Re: where is mail.log and the changing Linux ecosystem

On Sunday, 01-12-2024 at 11:09 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 11:02:07 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > Is there a "list of coming major design changing in Linux" somewhere on the > > Internet? Could make my life easier if there was. > > I would just like to point out that ther

Re: where is mail.log and the changing Linux ecosystem

On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 11:02:07 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > Is there a "list of coming major design changing in Linux" somewhere on the > Internet? Could make my life easier if there was. I would just like to point out that there isn't a single "Linux ecosystem". There are many Linux-based d

Re: where is mail.log and the changing Linux ecosystem

On Sunday, 01-12-2024 at 06:12 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 06:56:08PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:51:40PM +0100, Scott Andrews wrote: > > > > The version of systemd in trixie (and also in sid) is 257 according > > > > to packages.

Re: where is mail.log

On Saturday 30 November 2024 08:37:03 am Nicolas George wrote: > Greg Wooledge (12024-11-29): > > Now, you might ask why the systemd journal is being preferred and kept > > over human-readable log files. I don't think anyone on debian-user > > knows the answer to this. > > The answer is certainly

Re: where is mail.log

On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 06:56:08PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:51:40PM +0100, Scott Andrews wrote: > > > The version of systemd in trixie (and also in sid) is 257 according > > > to packages.debian.org. > > > > > > I don't know whether that's the version trixie

Re: where is mail.log

Hello, On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:51:40PM +0100, Scott Andrews wrote: > > The version of systemd in trixie (and also in sid) is 257 according > > to packages.debian.org. > > > > I don't know whether that's the version trixie is going to use upon > > release, but if it is, then your v258 cutoff won

Re: where is mail.log

> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 1:33 PM > From: "Greg Wooledge" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: where is mail.log > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 19:16:16 +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > Yes I do know what systemd-sysv is for

Re: where is mail.log

Hi, On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:16:16PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > From: to...@tuxteam.de > > Why all of Debian? As a SysV init user, I, of course, don't > > have (nor had, ever) that package. That one is for systemd > > users wishing some SysV backward compatibility. > > And that "SysV

Re: where is mail.log

On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 19:16:16 +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > Yes I do know what systemd-sysv is for (I run my own custom distribution). > > * Support for System V service scripts is deprecated and will be > removed in v258. Please make sure to update your software > *now* t

Re: where is mail.log

On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:16:16PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] > And that "SysV backward compatibility" has been eliminated from systemd Exactly. Thus, as a SysV init user, I don't need that package. Actually, it would be counterproductive for me to install it... > > I have the impr

Re: where is mail.log

> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 12:58 PM > From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: "Scott Andrews" > Cc: "Andy Smith" , debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: where is mail.log > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 06:31:56PM +0100, Scott Andrews wrote: >

Re: where is mail.log

Hi, On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 06:31:56PM +0100, Scott Andrews wrote: > > From: "Andy Smith" > > Yes, that is what is being said: it is still possible to run Debian > > without systemd. People are doing it. There are package maintainers that > > wish to let people do it. Surprise! It's a funny old w

Re: where is mail.log

On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 06:31:56PM +0100, Scott Andrews wrote: [...] > LOL No, just No Strong emotions, but... why? [...] > systemd-sysv 252.31-1~deb12u1 > ^^ > Gone not longer supported Why all of Debian? As a SysV init user, I, of course, don't have (nor had, ev

Re: where is mail.log

> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 11:54 AM > From: "Andy Smith" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: where is mail.log > > Hi, > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 01:31:12PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > You did not comprehend what

Re: where is mail.log

Hi, On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 01:31:12PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > You did not comprehend what I posted. I think it is you who are having problems reading. > I am on the systemd mail list. > They have dropped all sysV support. > The only way you'll have init script support is if you rip

Re: differences between sysvinit and systemd; was: where is mail.log

On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 13:03:32 +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > # awk '{ if($5 ~ "^postfix[[]") { print } }'

Re: where is mail.log

On 11/30/24 6:55 AM, Scott Andrews wrote: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 7:33 AM From: "Bitfox" To: poc...@homemail.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: where is mail.log On 2024-11-30 20:31, poc...@homemail.com wrote: You did not comprehend what I posted

Re: where is mail.log

Bitfox (12024-11-30): > May I ask what's the main difference between systemd and sysv for init > system? SysV Init is a bunch of fragile shell scripts with 80% boilerplate code that will misbehave at the first unexpected circumstance and cannot even tell you if your daemon has crashed or is runnin

Re: where is mail.log

Greg Wooledge (12024-11-29): > Now, you might ask why the systemd journal is being preferred and kept > over human-readable log files. I don't think anyone on debian-user > knows the answer to this. The answer is certainly the same as for the rest of systemd: the old system had terrible flaws and

Re: differences between sysvinit and systemd; was: where is mail.log

On 30 Nov 2024 20:33 +0800, from bit...@secubox.org (Bitfox): > May I ask what's the main difference between systemd and sysv for init > system? I think it's fair to say that systemd does a great deal more, as well as that it brings things into the init system which have traditionally been done by

Re: where is mail.log

On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 08:33:34PM +0800, Bitfox wrote: > On 2024-11-30 20:31, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > > > > > > You did not comprehend what I posted. I am on the systemd mail list. > > They have dropped all sysV support. > > May I ask what's the main difference between systemd and sy

Re: where is mail.log

> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 7:33 AM > From: "Bitfox" > To: poc...@homemail.com > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: where is mail.log > > On 2024-11-30 20:31, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > >> > > > > You did not c

Re: where is mail.log

On 2024-11-30 20:31, poc...@homemail.com wrote: You did not comprehend what I posted. I am on the systemd mail list. They have dropped all sysV support. May I ask what's the main difference between systemd and sysv for init system?

Re: where is mail.log

> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 1:37 AM > From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: where is mail.log > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 10:36:50PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > [...] > > > Because systemd is the init

Re: where is mail.log

On Friday, 29-11-2024 at 21:30 Bitfox wrote: > On 2024-11-29 10:08, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 19:13:12 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Bitfox wrote: > >> > My OS is debian 12 without GUI. > >> > > >> > After I insta

Re: where is mail.log

On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 10:36:50PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] > Because systemd is the init system on most all distributions. It's the default, though, which is fine. That said, you can still use SysV instead. Some assembly needed. > Get used to it. Or apply some assembly. > Debi

Re: where is mail.log

On 11/29/24 15:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 15:13:24 -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Thursday 28 November 2024 07:15:48 pm Greg Wooledge wrote: Install the rsyslog package also. This will give you traditional, human-readable log files in /var/log/. Without that packa

Re: where is mail.log

> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2024 at 3:13 PM > From: "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: where is mail.log > > On Thursday 28 November 2024 07:15:48 pm Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 08:07:20 +0800, Bit

Re: where is mail.log

Hi, On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 03:13:24PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > What's gained by them having changed this? (I wonder that about a lot of > stuff.) Most people don't need anything but the journal and if they do it's work of seconds to install rsyslogd (and I do), as seen in this thre

Re: where is mail.log

On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 15:13:24 -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Thursday 28 November 2024 07:15:48 pm Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Install the rsyslog package also. This will give you traditional, > > human-readable log files in /var/log/. > > > > Without that package, all of your logs live

Re: where is mail.log

On Thursday 28 November 2024 07:15:48 pm Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 08:07:20 +0800, Bitfox wrote: > > After I installed postifx by apt, I can't find the path to mail.log. > > > > the log file in /var/log doesn't exist. > > >

Re: where is mail.log

On 2024-11-29 10:08, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 19:13:12 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: Bitfox wrote: > My OS is debian 12 without GUI. > > After I installed postifx by apt, I can't find the path to mail.log. > > the log file in /var/log doesn't exist. &g

Re: where is mail.log

On 2024-11-29 10:08, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 19:13:12 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: Bitfox wrote: > My OS is debian 12 without GUI. > > After I installed postifx by apt, I can't find the path to mail.log. > > the log file in /var/log doesn't exist. &g

Re: where is mail.log

ependent. Added in version 232. George. On Friday, 29-11-2024 at 11:07 Bitfox wrote: > My OS is debian 12 without GUI. > > After I installed postifx by apt, I can't find the path to mail.log. > > the log file in /var/log doesn't exist. > > do you know where is my mail.log now? > > Thanks. > >

Re: where is mail.log

On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 19:13:12 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Bitfox wrote: > > My OS is debian 12 without GUI. > > > > After I installed postifx by apt, I can't find the path to mail.log. > > > > the log file in /var/log doesn't exist. > >

Re: where is mail.log

Bitfox wrote: > My OS is debian 12 without GUI. > > After I installed postifx by apt, I can't find the path to mail.log. > > the log file in /var/log doesn't exist. > > do you know where is my mail.log now? by default, it's in /var/log. If it is not ther

Re: where is mail.log

On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 08:07:20 +0800, Bitfox wrote: > After I installed postifx by apt, I can't find the path to mail.log. > > the log file in /var/log doesn't exist. > > do you know where is my mail.log now? Install the rsyslog package also. This will give you tr

where is mail.log

My OS is debian 12 without GUI. After I installed postifx by apt, I can't find the path to mail.log. the log file in /var/log doesn't exist. do you know where is my mail.log now? Thanks.

Re: Lenny, rsyslog: eliminate mail logging going to both syslog and mail.log

going into /var/log/syslog? Currently it goes to both /var/log/mail.log and >>> to /var/log/syslog. >>> >>> I'm guessing it might have to do with the leading wildcard here: >>> >>> *.*;auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog >> >&

Re: Lenny, rsyslog: eliminate mail logging going to both syslog and mail.log

m >> > going into /var/log/syslog?  Currently it goes to both /var/log/mail.log >> > and >> > to /var/log/syslog. >> > >> > I'm guessing it might have to do with the leading wildcard here: >> > >> > *.*;auth,authpriv.none          -/va

Re: Lenny, rsyslog: eliminate mail logging going to both syslog and mail.log

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 06:56:59PM -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > What do I need to modify in /etc/rsyslog.conf to stop mail system logging > > from > > going into /var/log/syslog?  Currently it goes to both /var/log/mail.lo

Re: Lenny, rsyslog: eliminate mail logging going to both syslog and mail.log

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > What do I need to modify in /etc/rsyslog.conf to stop mail system logging from > going into /var/log/syslog?  Currently it goes to both /var/log/mail.log and > to /var/log/syslog. > > I'm guessing it might have to

Lenny, rsyslog: eliminate mail logging going to both syslog and mail.log

What do I need to modify in /etc/rsyslog.conf to stop mail system logging from going into /var/log/syslog? Currently it goes to both /var/log/mail.log and to /var/log/syslog. I'm guessing it might have to do with the leading wildcard here: *.*;auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog

Re: stop postfix mail.log to syslog

On 10.05.07 15:02, Simon wrote: > How do i configure syslog to only log mail to mail.log. The default > debian postfix logs to mail.log and syslog at the same time with the > same data. postfix logs using syslog mechanism. It's syslog daemon who sends those data to more lis

stop postfix mail.log to syslog

Hi There, How do i configure syslog to only log mail to mail.log. The default debian postfix logs to mail.log and syslog at the same time with the same data. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Rotating mail.log

script of your own in /etc/cron.hourly or /etc/cron.daily and wait and see if it gets run. What happens if you run the cron scripts directly? (this checks the other side of the problem) /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd (this is the one that should rotating

Re: Rotating mail.log

Sam Watkins wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 02:42:36PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: My server just ran out of space due to mail.log and mail.info getting massive. I have run syslogd-listfiles --weekly, and both files are listed in the output. Any ideas on how I can debug this? (Please CC me

Re: Rotating mail.log

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 02:42:36PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: >My server just ran out of space due to mail.log and mail.info getting >massive. I have run syslogd-listfiles --weekly, and both files are >listed in the output. Any ideas on how I can debug this? (Please CC >

Re: Rotating mail.log

Antony Gelberg wrote: Hi all, My server just ran out of space due to mail.log and mail.info getting massive. I have run syslogd-listfiles --weekly, and both files are listed in the output. Any ideas on how I can debug this? (Please CC me, I'm not subscribed.) Antony Anyone able to

Rotating mail.log

Hi all, My server just ran out of space due to mail.log and mail.info getting massive. I have run syslogd-listfiles --weekly, and both files are listed in the output. Any ideas on how I can debug this? (Please CC me, I'm not subscribed.) Antony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: Mysterious entries in daemon log, mail.log; should I worry?

Incoming from Ralph Katz: > On 07/28/04 18:10, s. keeling wrote: > > >Try /etc/inetd.conf > >.^ > > and > > On 07/28/04 16:50, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > > > This should be /etc/inetd.conf > > Since I removed the services, apt-get remove uw-imapd qpopper, I wasn't > surprised to

Re: Mysterious entries in daemon log, mail.log; should I worry?

On 07/28/04 18:10, s. keeling wrote: Try /etc/inetd.conf .^ and On 07/28/04 16:50, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > This should be /etc/inetd.conf Since I removed the services, apt-get remove uw-imapd qpopper, I wasn't surprised to see /etc/inetd.conf had no entries for them: ~$ grep imap

Re: Mysterious entries in daemon log, mail.log; should I worry?

Incoming from Ralph Katz: > On 07/27/04 21:30, Uli Paul wrote: > > > >what does your /etc/inet.conf file look like? Are the entries for imapd > >and the others commented out (# sign at the beginning of the line)? Did > >you run any mail client at that time? > > > >PS Please CC to me, as I do NOT

Re: Mysterious entries in daemon log, mail.log; should I worry?

On 2004-07-28, Ralph Katz penned: > On 07/27/04 21:30, Uli Paul wrote: >> Hi Ralph, >> >> what does your /etc/inet.conf file look like? Are the entries for >> imapd and the others commented out (# sign at the beginning of the >> line)? Did you run any mail client at that time? >> >> Uli >

Re: Mysterious entries in daemon log, mail.log; should I worry?

On 07/27/04 21:30, Uli Paul wrote: Hi Ralph, what does your /etc/inet.conf file look like? Are the entries for imapd and the others commented out (# sign at the beginning of the line)? Did you run any mail client at that time? Uli PS Please CC to me, as I do NOT regulary read the list. Thanks Ul

Re: Mysterious entries in daemon log, mail.log; should I worry?

Hi Ralph, what does your /etc/inet.conf file look like? Are the entries for imapd and the others commented out (# sign at the beginning of the line)? Did you run any mail client at that time? Uli PS Please CC to me, as I do NOT regulary read the list. -- Ulrich Paul Paul Elektronik, Erlenweg 18,

Mysterious entries in daemon log, mail.log; should I worry?

7.0.0.1 Jun 25 15:24:23 spike imapd[3767]: connect from 127.0.0.1 Jun 25 15:24:28 spike imapd[3769]: connect from 127.0.0.1 Jun 25 15:24:28 spike imapd[3770]: connect from 127.0.0.1 /var/log/mail.log Jun 25 14:47:36 spike in.qpopper[3690]: Unable to obtain socket and address of client: Transport endp

Stopped reporting to mail.log, continues to mail.info

What's the difference between /var/log/mail.log and /var/log/mail.info? I was able to kill logging of Postfix to mail.log, but mail.info continues. These two logs appear to be the same, at least in the past. Why is that? (let the ridicule begin.) I just added a routine to the logrotate

Mutt & mailboxes / mail.log filter

where on it's status line that would be cool. Also, are there any good monitoring tools (perl or C?) that grep thru the mail.log (to replace a 'tail -f /var/log/mail.log) and output a more human readable account of what's going on? I've seen screenshots of nicely formatted ma

Re: mail.log

On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Mikko Väkiparta wrote: > I'm trying to send file /var/log/mail.log every friday to myself via > e-mail. I think this is crons job, but how I can configure it to do > this on every friday? And what kind of script I must to make for > sending the file (subj

mail.log

I'm trying to send file /var/log/mail.log every friday to myself via e-mail. I think this is crons job, but how I can configure it to do this on every friday? And what kind of script I must to make for sending the file (subject=date, message