Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-17 Thread Alberto Luaces
"0...@caiway.net" writes: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 16:40:52 +0100 > Alberto Luaces wrote: > >> "0...@caiway.net" writes: >> >> > But I do like systemd-container very much. >> >> What is that thing? Another name for systemd-nspawn? >> > > package systemd-container provides systemd's tools for nspaw

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-16 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 12/15/19 11:45 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Jimmy Johnson (2019-12-16 02:13:08) On 12/14/19 5:29 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Hi Alessandro, Quoting Alessandro Vesely (2019-12-14 13:23:14) On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote: I use Devuan, especially on older har

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-16 Thread 0...@caiway.net
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 16:40:52 +0100 Alberto Luaces wrote: > "0...@caiway.net" writes: > > > But I do like systemd-container very much. > > What is that thing? Another name for systemd-nspawn? > package systemd-container provides systemd's tools for nspawn and container/VM management: * system

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-16 Thread Alberto Luaces
"0...@caiway.net" writes: > But I do like systemd-container very much. What is that thing? Another name for systemd-nspawn? -- Alberto

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Jimmy Johnson (2019-12-16 02:13:08) > On 12/14/19 5:29 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Hi Alessandro, > > > > Quoting Alessandro Vesely (2019-12-14 13:23:14) > >> On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote: > >>> > >>> I use Devuan, especially on older hardware.   Works well. >

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-15 Thread 0...@caiway.net
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 15:36:00 -0800 Peter Ehlert wrote: > drama queen much? > I did not like the idea of systemd. But I do like systemd-container very much. I am using it for years now. Run services in a container, easy backup, easy migrate, reboot in 3 seconds. So nowadays I tolerate systemd i

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-15 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 12/14/19 5:29 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Hi Alessandro, Quoting Alessandro Vesely (2019-12-14 13:23:14) On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote: I use Devuan, especially on older hardware.   Works well. Good to know. For the time being, I see SysV is working. I'm on ol

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-15 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 12/13/19 1:55 PM, Britton Kerin wrote: I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the first place and am in long process of finding a replacement. Some options are slackware it comes with xfce and

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 15/12/19 7:53 am, ghe wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 17:12 Britton Kerin wrote: >> >>> I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems >>> now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the >>> first place and am in long process of finding a replace

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread ghe
On 12/14/19 2:35 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > Why do people get so het up about Ethernet names in Linux? They're > renamable quite easily. So you can have "eth0" or "ens92" or "wlp0s41" > or "internet" or "Local Area Connection 1" if you like. Well, perhaps > not the last one. I'm not sure about spac

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Darac Marjal
On 14/12/2019 20:53, ghe wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 17:12 Britton Kerin wrote: >> >>> I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems >>> now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the >>> first place and am in long process of finding a replaceme

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread ghe
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 17:12 Britton Kerin wrote: > >> I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems >> now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the >> first place and am in long process of finding a replacement. Might want to take a look at

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 14:05:43 + Jonathan Dowland wrote: Hello Jonathan, >The disassociation between the population of debian-user and the >project itself, Is (inevitable|a fact of life). It's Debian's ball. It's Debian's game. They make the rules. >who's it was), is still eye-opening to me.

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 dec 19, 14:05:43, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 08:46:55AM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > Discussions have been taking place on debian-vote (specific to this > > vote), but also debian-project, debian-devel, and various other Debian > > mailing lists. For. A. Lo

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 01:23:14PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > > I use Devuan, especially on older hardware.   Works well.  > > > Good to know. For the time being, I see SysV is working. I'm on old-stable > Debian. As, in a f

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 08:46:55AM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Discussions have been taking place on debian-vote (specific to this vote), but also debian-project, debian-devel, and various other Debian mailing lists. For. A. Long. Time. The disassociation between the population of debian-

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 07:58:59AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Where was this survey / vote? What was the question? Not very many voters, > and the meanings of some of the choices are not very clear to me -- maybe > they > would be with the added context of knowing the question and/or s

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:58:59 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello rhkra...@gmail.com, >Where was this survey / vote? What was the question? Not very many Voting closes 27 Dec 2019. Only Debian Developers are eligible to vote. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Alessandro, Quoting Alessandro Vesely (2019-12-14 13:23:14) > On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > > I use Devuan, especially on older hardware.   Works well.  > > > Good to know. For the time being, I see SysV is working. I'm on > old-stable Debian. As, in a few

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread rhkramer
Where was this survey / vote? What was the question? Not very many voters, and the meanings of some of the choices are not very clear to me -- maybe they would be with the added context of knowing the question and/or source of the survey. E.g. : "Support portability, without blocking progress

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote: > > I use Devuan, especially on older hardware.   Works well.  Good to know. For the time being, I see SysV is working. I'm on old-stable Debian. As, in a few months, it will be time to migrate, I'll have to decide on Devuan (current) vs

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-13 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Dec 13, 2019 8:00 PM, "Default User" wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 17:12 Britton Kerin wrote: > I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems > now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the > first place and am in long process of finding a r

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-13 Thread Default User
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 17:12 Britton Kerin wrote: > I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems > now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the > first place and am in long process of finding a replacement. > > Britton > > > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-13 Thread Peter Ehlert
drama queen much? On 12/13/19 1:55 PM, Britton Kerin wrote: I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the first place and am in long process of finding a replacement. Britton - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't

looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-13 Thread Britton Kerin
I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the first place and am in long process of finding a replacement. Britton > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 7b77e0f