Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-11 Thread JD Thomlinson
>> It is a bug for a processor to have any unassigned codes. > >In what way is it a bug? If all the codes are assigned, then future >extensions become impossible. Unassigned OP codes are properly given no-op execution and are indicated as "reserved" in the programming documentation. Best Regard

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread Carey Evans
David Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No. From what I have read so far, P-Pro and PII is not effected, just > Pentium(and MMX). It will be interesting to see how Intel handles this bug. They only give a warranty that their chips are free from material defects, not logic or microcode errors,

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
David Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Question: Can this code be placed in a Java/ActiveX program? Just wondering if > I should disable them. Java: No. Java is platform independent and thus one cannot embed specific instructions. ActiveX: Yes. This is Micro$oft technology, remember. -- B

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : > Ted writes: : > > Someone wondered (as one does) what might possibly happen if you tried : > > the unassigned codes. : > : > It is a bug for a processor to have any unassigned codes. : : In what way is it a bug? If all the

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread David Puryear
On 09-Nov-97 Dan Hugo wrote: I hat to be naive, but I've read a little bit about this bug (first on www.news.com, and very little more on www.x86.org) and there is one thing that is vague: Are Pentium Pro and/or Pentium II also effected by this bug? No. From what I h

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread Dan Hugo
I just tracked down a post to this mailing list from Tommy Lakofski that wasn't on this thread, stating (from the linux.advocacy newsgroup) that the problem is P5 only and does not effect PPro or PII. I guess that's reassuring... -dh Dan Hugo wrote: > > I hat to be naive, but I've read a litt

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread Tommy Lakofski
The BugTraq post I read suggested that the P6 (Pro, II) does not have this bug. Of course, there may be others... On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote: > Are Pentium Pro and/or Pentium II also effected by this bug? -TL -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [E

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread Dan Hugo
I hat to be naive, but I've read a little bit about this bug (first on www.news.com, and very little more on www.x86.org) and there is one thing that is vague: Are Pentium Pro and/or Pentium II also effected by this bug? I would try it on my pro system, but I would rather not have to reset in the

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the instruction set is changed, the CPU part number should change. In other > words, future extentions should be IMPOSSIBLE. Unused opcodes should execute a > NOP or an instruction that causes the currently executing program to terminate > in a known c

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread George Bonser
If the instruction set is changed, the CPU part number should change. In other words, future extentions should be IMPOSSIBLE. Unused opcodes should execute a NOP or an instruction that causes the currently executing program to terminate in a known condition ... HALT? In this way, Pentium-N code

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ted writes: > > Someone wondered (as one does) what might possibly happen if you tried > > the unassigned codes. > > It is a bug for a processor to have any unassigned codes. In what way is it a bug? If all the codes are assigned, then future extensions become impossi

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-09 Thread john
Ted writes: > Someone wondered (as one does) what might possibly happen if you tried > the unassigned codes. It is a bug for a processor to have any unassigned codes. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail t

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-08 Thread Ted Harding
On 08-Nov-97 Ben Pfaff wrote: > Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Barring malicious users, could these op codes have happened in >> production code? > > At least according to the gas 2.8.1 sources, the instruction code > 0x0f0f is not assigned to any instruction, so they should never appear >

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-08 Thread Ben Pfaff
Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Barring malicious users, could these op codes have happened in > production code? At least according to the gas 2.8.1 sources, the instruction code 0x0f0f is not assigned to any instruction, so they should never appear in actual code. -- Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROT

Re: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-08 Thread Shaleh
Barring malicious users, could these op codes have happened in production code? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

RE: lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-08 Thread George Bonser
And there is probably such a bug with Pentium II that will be "leaked" as soon as ITS replacement is widely available to spur upgrades. Sorry if I seem so cynical. (Four systems 1-AMD, 1-Cyrix, 1-486, 1-Intel Pentium.) The only Intel Pentium is an old P60 that is due for replacement anyhow. On 08

lock a pentium for fun!

1997-11-08 Thread Jon Nelson
A slightly edited version of what a friend sent me: Did you hear the latest buzz on the internet? A four byte instruction will lock any true Pentium solid. Try this c program: char x [5] = { 0xf0, 0x0f, 0xc7, 0xc8 }; main () { void (*f)() = x; f(); } So much for using Pentia for robust mu