Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-29 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:47:57PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 05:34:45PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > > read the rest of my message! yes i am familier with it, its fine for > > *nix users and for the paranoid on lessor OSes, but when it comes to > > telling *users* of

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-28 Thread Christian Surchi
On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 05:34:45PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > read the rest of my message! yes i am familier with it, its fine for > *nix users and for the paranoid on lessor OSes, but when it comes to > telling *users* of say MacOS to give up thier pretty GUI drag and > drop, point and drool ft

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-28 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 02:56:57PM -0500, John F. Davis wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 12:42:24PM -0600, Matthew W. Roberts wrote: > > > > as far as i have been able to find, > > > > there is no suitable, secure, replacement for ftp (why!?!?!) > > Are you familiar with scp? I use putty's pscp f

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-27 Thread John F. Davis
On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 12:42:24PM -0600, Matthew W. Roberts wrote: > > > as far as i have been able to find, > > > there is no suitable, secure, replacement for ftp (why!?!?!) Are you familiar with scp? I use putty's pscp for scp transfers between windows and linux. You ought to try it. It roc

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-27 Thread Matthew W. Roberts
> > as far as i have been able to find, > > there is no suitable, secure, replacement for ftp (why!?!?!) > > Ask Bill... Gates or Clinton?

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-27 Thread Ernest Johanson
Seminary On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, Pollywog wrote: > Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 20:20:15 - (UTC) > From: Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-user list > Subject: Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords' > > On 26-Mar-2000 19:16:30 Ernes

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-27 Thread Adam Shand
> > You can tell proftpd to allow logins without a valid shell. It can also > > set a default root directory for users so they can't see anything above > > that point. > > Is this what is called "chroot"? it's technically not a chroot jail since in a chroot jail even the daemon can't get outside

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-26 Thread Pollywog
On 26-Mar-2000 19:16:30 Ernest Johanson wrote: > You can tell proftpd to allow logins without a valid shell. It can also > set a default root directory for users so they can't see anything above > that point. Is this what is called "chroot"? -- Andrew

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-26 Thread Ernest Johanson
2000 17:51:06 -0900 (AKST) > From: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, recipient list not shown: ; > Subject: Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords' > > > I wa

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-26 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 05:51:06PM -0900, Adam Shand wrote: > i'm not sure what you're options are for samba as i haven't used it for a > long time ... > > for ssh you have two ways. give them a shell which is useless (/bin/false > or /bin/true or make your own, eg. /usr/local/bin/nossh). then

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-26 Thread Adam Shand
> I want to have easy freedom in limiting user access. I have killed > telnetd, and only sshd. I want to allow some users access through ssh, > some through ftpd, and some through samba. How can I turn off user > access through ssh, but keep their account, and allow them access &

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-26 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 05:46:00PM +1100, Damon Muller wrote: > Quoth Percival, > > I want to have easy freedom in limiting user access. I have killed > > telnetd, and only sshd. I want to allow some users access through > > ssh, some through ftpd, and some through samba

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-26 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Percival, > I want to have easy freedom in limiting user access. I have killed > telnetd, and only sshd. I want to allow some users access through > ssh, some through ftpd, and some through samba. How can I turn off > user access through ssh, but keep their account, and allow

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-25 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 06:59:35PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > this is a very good point, but as far as i have been able to find, > there is no suitable, secure, replacement for ftp (why!?!?!) > 2) use ssh to tunnel the ftp connection. I may be doing something > wrong but i have never managed t

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-25 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 11:38:38AM +0100, FIOL BONNIN Antonio wrote: > I believe that a chroot'ed ftp may work well for you, as long as you do > not allow ssh users to log in the ftp, nor the ftp users log in the ssh. for ftp only yes chroot works quite well. its when you combine shell access an

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-25 Thread FIOL BONNIN Antonio
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 09:31:25PM +0100, Antonio Fiol Bonnín wrote: > > > > > I want to have easy freedom in limiting user access. I have killed > > > telnetd, and only sshd. I want to allow some users access through ssh, &

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-25 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 09:31:25PM +0100, Antonio Fiol Bonnín wrote: > > > I want to have easy freedom in limiting user access. I have killed > > telnetd, and only sshd. I want to allow some users access through ssh, > > some through ftpd, and some through samba. Ho

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-24 Thread Ben Collins
> secure box. > > I want to have easy freedom in limiting user access. I have killed telnetd, > and only sshd. I want to allow some users access through ssh, some through > ftpd, and some through samba. How can I turn off user access through ssh, > but keep their acc

Re: Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-24 Thread Antonio Fiol Bonnín
> I want to have easy freedom in limiting user access. I have killed > telnetd, and only sshd. I want to allow some users access through ssh, > some through ftpd, and some through samba. How can I turn off user > access through ssh, but keep their account, and allow them access &

Limiting user access in ftp, ssh, samba, etc... 'passwords'

2000-03-24 Thread Percival
I run a domain and host websites for myself and some friends. I am trying to learn all about linux/system administration/security and I want to run a responsible host as I have 24/7 Internet through a DSL. I try to run a secure box. I want to have easy freedom in limiting user access. I

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-13 Thread Anthony Towns
Carey Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Put /var/tmp on a different partition than /var (and /tmp on a > different partition than /). This also stops them from keeping huge > files in /var/tmp where the news spool, mail spool and logs are. Of course, if you're being this paranoid, you should p

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-13 Thread Carey Evans
(Back to just debian-user; no discussions of policy in my message.) Anthony Towns writes: > But what about /var? /var/tmp should be world writable (albeit sticky) > according to the FSSTND, but at least a couple of packages use /var > for executable files, notably dpkg (/var/lib/dpkg/info/*), an

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-13 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: > according to the FSSTND, but at least a couple of packages use /var > for executable files, notably dpkg (/var/lib/dpkg/info/*), and the > distributed-net client (/var/lib/distributed-net/distributed-net). > > BTW, if /var was noexec, it remains possible to have something li

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-13 Thread Anthony Towns
(sent to both debian-user and debian-policy, please be careful with replies) Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote: > : hmm... how would that stop users from running programs they copied onto my > : server? > Mount the /home partition noexec. In f

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-12 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote: : : hmm... how would that stop users from running programs they copied onto my : server? Mount the /home partition noexec. In fact, make sure any user writable partition is mounted noexec. If your users can copy files to /usr, then you've got a fairly b

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-12 Thread Ben Pfaff
hmm... how would that stop users from running programs they copied onto my server? If they can't copy them, how will they run them? Disable ftpd and don't give them access to very many commands (not cc or ftp or chmod, certainly) and they can't copy anything or create anything runnable, th

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-12 Thread A. M. Varon
On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote: > hmm... how would that stop users from running programs they copied onto my > server? chmod, perl and tar connot be directly used to make the copied/uploaded files executable... since the files in /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, and /usr/bin are owned by say, ro

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-12 Thread Paul Miller
hmm... how would that stop users from running programs they copied onto my server? On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, A. M. Varon wrote: > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote: > > > Is there any way to do this for only certain groups? > > what I do is chmod 550 and chown root.staff the /bin, /sbin, /u

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-12 Thread A. M. Varon
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote: > Is there any way to do this for only certain groups? what I do is chmod 550 and chown root.staff the /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, and /usr/bin etc. Where the group staff could be you. All others connot access the binaries or whatever. regards, == =

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-12 Thread bhmit1
> > > Is it possible to restrict user access so users can not execute any > > > programs? (programs which they copied on to my system). - FreeBSD can do > > > this sort of thing > > Mount the user writable areas with the noexec option. Probably want to > > put it in the /etc/fstab. > Is there

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-12 Thread Paul Miller
Is there any way to do this for only certain groups? -Paul On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote: > > > Is it possible to restrict user access so users can not execute any > > programs? (programs which they copied on to my system). - FreeBSD can

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-12 Thread bhmit1
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote: > Is it possible to restrict user access so users can not execute any > programs? (programs which they copied on to my system). - FreeBSD can do > this sort of thing Mount the user writable areas with the noexec option. Probably want to put it in the /et

limiting user access

1998-02-12 Thread Paul Miller
Is it possible to restrict user access so users can not execute any programs? (programs which they copied on to my system). - FreeBSD can do this sort of thing --- Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, finger for public PGP key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe"