Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved] !Retraction!

2002-06-22 Thread Paul E Condon
I have been re-examining my work on soft links when building kernels with make-kpkg. The kernel-image package that I generated when testing the case of soft link not present was made with a wrong config file, i.e. not the same one as the other case. I know this because I opened the deb packages and

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-22 Thread Ian D. Stewart
On 2002.06.22 09:38 Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: Sorry to pick up this conversation midstream, but all this talk of kernel upgrades got me wondering, and I decided to try it for myself. I have downloaded the sources and uncompressed them where they should be. I made the link (if I should or not, t

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 01:51:15PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > To expand on my earlier post: Some module selections require the link. If ^^ which one? Be specific. > you don't request compilation of a module that

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi. On this thread, TRUST MANOJ ! Any others' problems are mostly user issues. On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 09:38:57AM -0400, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: > Sorry to pick up this conversation midstream, but all this talk of > kernel upgrades got me wondering, and I decided to try it for myself. > > I

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-22 Thread Wayne Topa
Matthew Daubenspeck([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Sorry to pick up this conversation midstream, but all this talk of > kernel upgrades got me wondering, and I decided to try it for myself. > > I have downloaded the sources and uncompressed them where they should > be. I made the l

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-22 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
Sorry to pick up this conversation midstream, but all this talk of kernel upgrades got me wondering, and I decided to try it for myself. I have downloaded the sources and uncompressed them where they should be. I made the link (if I should or not, this is how I have always done it otherwise) and h

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Kevin" == Kevin C Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kevin> I've recently heard arguments that putting a soft link Kevin> /usr/src/linux -> /usr/src/kernel-sources-x.x.xx Kevin> breaks things in Debian. Kevin> Any comments on this? It is unnecessary, but does not break things, no.

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Paul" == Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote: >> >> No, you do not need such a link. It works fine to compile in >> /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/linux >> then you need the lin

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Paul" == Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> Actually I tried it both with the link and without the link. Paul> With the link all the modules where created in the kernel-image Paul> deb file. But without the link only a tiny fraction of the Paul> requested modules where created

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 05:55:31PM -0500, Kevin C. Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 01:51:15PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > Also here, the tarba

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread Andrew Perrin
I'm definitely over my head in this debate and will happily defer to those who know more about the issues involved. However, I will say that for my situation I far prefer compiling in /usr/src/kernel-sources-* than in a generic /usr/src/linux symlink. I have several different kernel configs (and ev

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Friday 21 June 2002 03:55 pm, Kevin C. Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 01:51:15PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > > [snip] [snip]

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread Kevin C. Smith
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 01:51:15PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and > > > > > > > Sorry - f

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote: > > [snip] > > > Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and > > > > Sorry - forgot that step! > > > there must be a softlink > > /usr/src/linux that points

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote: > > [snip] > > > Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and > > > > Sorry - forgot that step! > > > there must be a softlink > > /usr/src/linux that points

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] > Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and > Sorry - forgot that step! > there must be a softlink > /usr/src/linux that points to > /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18, > which was pointed out to me by Griz Inabnit >

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-20 Thread Paul E Condon
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:54:26AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Paul" == Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Paul> The given recipe is: > > Paul> apt-get install kernel-sources-2.4.18 Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and there must be a

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Paul" == Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> The given recipe is: Paul> apt-get install kernel-sources-2.4.18 Paul> cd /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18 Paul> make oldconfig Aha. You are creating a default .config here, which may have vastly less modules selected than

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-20 Thread Johann Spies
On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 08:32:38PM +0200, Jan Groenewald wrote: > I used apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.20... #(from 2.2.19pre..) > Is this wrong/bad style? This is not mentioned as a proper method in > the docs/link above. What about kernel-headers-... then? Nothing wrong with your "style". Bu

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-19 Thread Jan Groenewald
all, On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 05:30:47PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > Why doesn't anyone follow the procedure outlined in > > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking > > ? > Other than use of 'fakeroot' (which I don't use because I'm happy becoming >

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 (Solved, but...)

2002-06-18 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote: > Has the Debian approach worked for anyone who wants a full install, including > modules? Take care in answering yes. OK, yes. BUT the only modules which I've _needed_ to create "the Debian way" are the pcmcia-cs modules, which are unpacked from the pcm

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 (Solved, but...)

2002-06-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 11:33:17PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > I upgraded to Woody two or three months ago, but did not upgrade the kernel > then because I did not feel confident of my ability to read and follow the > various directions. Recent posts in this thread gave me a feeling of > confide

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Tim" == Tim Grogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tim> I'm trying to compile the exact same image on my Athlon 1700 Tim> system. I've been following this thread with great interest. Tim> I've seen some good pointers from a lot of folks. Could someone Tim> please just put a dummy list of step

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-18 Thread Paul E Condon
I upgraded to Woody two or three months ago, but did not upgrade the kernel then because I did not feel confident of my ability to read and follow the various directions. Recent posts in this thread gave me a feeling of confidence, so I've attempted to follow the recipe given. Now I need help. Th

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Ivo Wever
Patrick Wiseman wrote: Ivo Wever wrote: Why doesn't anyone follow the procedure outlined in http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking ? Other than use of 'fakeroot' (which I don't use because I'm happy becoming root having started with Slackware years

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Ivo Wever wrote: > Why doesn't anyone follow the procedure outlined in > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking > ? Other than use of 'fakeroot' (which I don't use because I'm happy becoming root having started with Slackware years

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Ivo Wever wrote: > Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > Andrew Perrin wrote: > > > > > >>1.) Don't both with linking to linux. Just: > >> > >>cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 > >>make menuconfig > >>make-kpkg > > > > > Why doesn't anyone follow the procedure outlined in Take care w

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Ivo Wever
Patrick Wiseman wrote: Andrew Perrin wrote: 1.) Don't both with linking to linux. Just: cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig make-kpkg Why doesn't anyone follow the procedure outlined in http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking ? since

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Scott Henson
On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 15:16, Andrew Perrin wrote: > Here's what I do: > > apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 > cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 make oldconfig > make menuconfig > (select/deselect for your needs) make-kpkg clean > make-kpkg --revision ofc1.x binary > cd /usr/src > dpkg -i

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote: > >>Try: > >> > >>ls -l /usr/src/kernel*deb > > [snip] > I ran an find / -name kernel-image*.* > and there was no result ( I ran make-kpkg twice) :-) > > any clue?! > The clue is: follow directions! What is the output of: ls /usr/src/kernel*deb

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Francisco Fialho
Tim Grogan wrote: I'm trying to compile the exact same image on my Athlon 1700 system. I've been following this thread with great interest. I've seen some good pointers from a lot of folks. Could someone please just put a dummy list of steps on how to upgrade a kernel. I've downloaded about

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
Here's what I do: apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig (select/deselect for your needs) make-kpkg --revision ofc1.x binary cd /usr/src dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.18_ofc1.x_i386.deb reboot -

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Tim Grogan
I'm trying to compile the exact same image on my Athlon 1700 system. I've been following this thread with great interest. I've seen some good pointers from a lot of folks. Could someone please just put a dummy list of steps on how to upgrade a kernel. I've downloaded about 3 howtos but they are

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 13:30, Francisco Fialho wrote: > Andrew Perrin wrote: > > >On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote: > > > >>is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?! > >> > > > >uname -a > > > > the output to the uname - a command gave me 2.2.20... > what is missing?

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
Try again - you ran dpkg -k kernel-source... You need to find the .deb that make-kpkg created. It's in /usr/src. Try: ls -l /usr/src/kernel*deb You're looking for kernel-image-2.4.18-.deb Then do dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18-.deb ap ---

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Francisco Fialho
Andrew Perrin wrote: Yes. You need to install the new kernel: dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18... and then reboot. -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Ch

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote: > what is missing?! make-kpkg ran OK... > must I do something?! after make-kpkg nothing else > as done, except run the lilo command. You need to install the kernel; from /usr/src/linux 'dpkg -i ../kernel_image.deb' Do 'ls ..' to get the name of the a

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 03:30:05PM -0300, Francisco Fialho wrote: > Andrew Perrin wrote: > >On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote: > >>is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?! > >uname -a > the output to the uname - a command gave me 2.2.20... > what is missing?! make-k

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
Yes. You need to install the new kernel: dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18... and then reboot. -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Francisco Fialho
Andrew Perrin wrote: On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote: is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?! uname -a the output to the uname - a command gave me 2.2.20... what is missing?! make-kpkg ran OK... must I do something?! after make-kpkg nothing else as done,

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote: > is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?! uname -a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Francisco Fialho
Andrew Perrin wrote: 1.) Don't both with linking to linux. Just: cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig make-kpkg 2.) Don't use --revision to note the kernel version; make-kpkg will do that for you. Use --revision if you want to tag it to specific config options you've used. I genera

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Andrew Perrin wrote: > 1.) Don't both with linking to linux. Just: > > cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 > make menuconfig > make-kpkg This will work, of course. But other packages (pcmcia-cs, for example, I'm pretty sure) expect to find the kernel source tree in /usr/src/li

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote: > the kerbel-source was saved at /usr/src... I created a dir called > linux and a ln -s to the unzipped source ( /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18) 'rm -Rf linux' to remove your directory 'ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 linux' to create your link You

Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
1.) Don't both with linking to linux. Just: cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig make-kpkg 2.) Don't use --revision to note the kernel version; make-kpkg will do that for you. Use --revision if you want to tag it to specific config options you've used. I generally do: make-kpkg --rev

kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Francisco Fialho
Hi everybody. I running Debian Woody ( kernel 2.2.20) and I trying to upgrade to kernel 2.4.18... a did an apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 ) just perfect. the kerbel-source was saved at /usr/src... I created a dir called linux and a ln -s to the unzipped source ( /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.