Re: just a thought (re. systemd nonsense)

2014-10-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
tor...@riseup.net wrote: Doug wrote: On 10/21/2014 08:12 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: It occurs to me that the whole notion of packaging and distros may be becoming less and less relevant. Well if everybody is forced to use systemd you'll be right. All the distros will _have_ to be the same. May

Re: Re: just a thought (re. systemd nonsense)

2014-10-22 Thread tor...@riseup.net
Doug wrote: >On 10/21/2014 08:12 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> It occurs to me that the whole notion of packaging and distros may be >> becoming less and less relevant. > Well if everybody is forced to use systemd you'll be right. All the >distros will _have_ to be the same. Maybe the packaging wi

Re: just a thought (re. systemd nonsense)

2014-10-21 Thread Doug
On 10/21/2014 08:12 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > It occurs to me that the whole notion of packaging and distros may be > becoming less and less relevant. Well if everybody is forced to use systemd you'll be right. All the distros will _have_ to be the same. Maybe the packaging will remain unique.

Re: just a thought (re. systemd nonsense)

2014-10-21 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
I'll try uselessd before anything else more radical... But, Paul from debian.org told me (us) that systemd will NOT replace dpkg/apt. Again, lets try uselessd. It already seems much better than upstart (just a guess)...;-P Also, apparently, we're getting off-topic with this subject around he

just a thought (re. systemd nonsense)

2014-10-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
It occurs to me that the whole notion of packaging and distros may be becoming less and less relevant. I'm serious considering moving to a continuous integration toolchain (Chef or Puppet + Jenkins, or some such) and just building/maintaining our servers directly from upstream source. Though